Super Jinzoningen 17 way too powerful ?

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:04 pm

Rory wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Hell Fighter #17 may have been more powerful than the original, which allowed for the fusion to be stronger.
Then why not just make a fighter on its own if they have the ability to create something with that much power? Why fuck around with #17?

I think the whole point in the Hell 17 wasn't to make a powerful fighter, but to make a component that would fill in the gaps in the original 17 and bring out his potential power. Super 17 was their goal from the start.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:42 pm

Dr. Gero said the original #17 was supposed to be stronger than Cell and his ultimate weapon. Of course that is GT bullshit but whatever.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:44 pm

Yamcha_krillin wrote:In the original japanese Gt version it was said that the original 17 was powered up hugly by the hell 17 when they opened the gate to hell, making them have an equal power level to be abel to fuse into the ultimate Android called Super 17.

Even by Dragon Ball logic, that's just weak. But, such is GT.

Yamcha_krillin · Post by **Yamcha_krillin** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:00 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
Yamcha_krillin wrote:In the original japanese Gt version it was said that the original 17 was powered up hugly by the hell 17 when they opened the gate to hell, making them have an equal power level to be abel to fuse into the ultimate Android called Super 17.
Even by Dragon Ball logic, that's just weak. But, such is GT.

How do you mean weak?

Hell 17 was much stronger then normal 17 and then he powered him up so that they can fuse.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:01 pm

Yamcha_krillin wrote: How do you mean weak?

Hell 17 was much stronger then normal 17 and then he powered him up so that they can fuse.

I mean weak story telling, not weak from an in-universe power perspective. That plot element would be lame but forgivable with some characters (like Buu, due to his magical nature). #17 is a cyborg. That he would just "power up" on account of the other 17's existence... it just never worked for me. And I like the saga, if I shut my brain off. It just defies logic (even Dragon Ball logic) when you really break it down. This is the same saga that had Goten and Trunks sense the ki of a hidden villain who had escaped from hell- a fighter who should have been undetectable and arguably shouldn't even exist in any "afterlife" sense.