Dragon Ball Season 1- Review, Screenshots, and Contest

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:02 pm

Man, the Season Set looks at least as good as the Z footage does in Kai...

Tweaker · Post by **Tweaker** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:03 pm

Unless both of those screens are on a different frame, I can notice several instances of line damage in the season set. Granted, it's nowhere near as bad as in the Dragon Ball Z sets, but it's still pretty noticeable.

EDIT:

EDIT: Fuck that, totally different cels for this shot, sorry.

Right! Disregard that, then. =P

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:21 pm

Like I said in Funi's forum, they've perfected DVNR.

Also, before we start comparing colors, keep in mind that MPC screenshots usually have a lower contrast than VLC and Virtual Dub Mod caps.

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:27 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Like I said in Funi's forum, they've perfected DVNR.

Not perfected, just improved their use heavily.

Tweaker wrote:Unless both of those screens are on a different frame, I can notice several instances of line damage in the season set. Granted, it's nowhere near as bad as in the Dragon Ball Z sets, but it's still pretty noticeable.

Disregarding that it was different frames, there are small bouts of line damage. It's something that happens when DVNR is used on animation. The problems aren't very visible in motion (of course... with old animation there are often issues with line consistency ANYWAYS... so it can be hard to tell if the DVNR actually caused it in the rare cases it's noticeable.)

I take caps while I watch, and what it nabs it nabs. I only remove caps if there is a noticeable error that wouldn't appear during most watching boughts (such as interlacing if it's a 480i DVD, or other minor problems.)

SSVegetto · Post by **SSVegetto** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:35 pm

Yeah, I'm having a hard time trying to tell if there is any details lost.

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:37 pm

SSVegetto wrote:Yeah, I'm having a hard time trying to tell if there is any details lost.

Which is generally the 'goal' of DVNR, is getting rid of 'issues' without noticeable changing the image.

It's a million times better than the Z sets, and way better than GT, which often looked fuzzy and blurry.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:41 pm

godofchaos wrote:
SSVegetto wrote:Yeah, I'm having a hard time trying to tell if there is any details lost.
Which is generally the 'goal' of DVNR, is getting rid of 'issues' without noticeable changing the image.

It's a million times better than the Z sets, and way better than GT, which often looked fuzzy and blurry.

Well, better than the first 5 Z sets. But then again, the latter half of the Z sets didn't seem to even use DVNR in the first place so there's no point in comparing.

RoarkVegeta · Post by **RoarkVegeta** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:43 pm

Entered!

SSVegetto · Post by **SSVegetto** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:46 pm

What about the film damage though? We are forgetting about the dirt and scratches that come in. Did they fix that as well in this set? I remember in the opening there were tons of those things flying in.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:47 pm

Uh, everyone keeps talking about how there are line damage and such, but I don't see it... Do the lines disappear like in the early Z sets?

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:52 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:Uh, everyone keeps talking about how there are line damage and such, but I don't see it... Do the lines disappear like in the early Z sets?

No. The early Z sets had it set so high it literally ripped the lines apart.

Here you will get some line thinning, a rare line segment vanished, etc.

It's not noticeable, because Dragon Ball often had that. So without looking side by side, I can't even say. there are times it looks like it might, then you go and look at a cap from a different DVVD of the same episode, and the lines gone there also.

Let's just say in this case. If you don't see a problem, there isn't one.

And thought I'd mention, as I've been asked again. No, there aren't episode previews.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:03 pm

godofchaos wrote: Here you will get some line thinning, a rare line segment vanished, etc.

Well, I noticed some of that in FUNimation's release of Slayers Next which I don't think had any DVNR applied to it...

Could it be their masters?

MarcFBR · Post by **MarcFBR** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:14 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
godofchaos wrote: Here you will get some line thinning, a rare line segment vanished, etc.
Well, I noticed some of that in FUNimation's release of Slayers Next which I don't think had any DVNR applied to it...

Could it be their masters?

As I recall, Slayers did have DVNR. As I recall it was CPMs masters, with a bit of DVNR applied (more than here, less than GT.)

There are issues with it in Dragon Ball anyways. I wouldn't worry about it.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:17 pm

Entered.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:26 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
godofchaos wrote:
SSVegetto wrote:Yeah, I'm having a hard time trying to tell if there is any details lost.
Which is generally the 'goal' of DVNR, is getting rid of 'issues' without noticeable changing the image.

It's a million times better than the Z sets, and way better than GT, which often looked fuzzy and blurry.
Well, better than the first 5 Z sets. But then again, the latter half of the Z sets didn't seem to even use DVNR in the first place so there's no point in comparing.

The most of the latter Z episodes weren't really bad to begin with.

I still need to watch more of my Dragonball set. Been so busy with school and all.

ShinRogafuken · Post by **ShinRogafuken** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:45 pm

Question: Are the insert songs in there?

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:51 pm

Commander_Red · Post by **Commander_Red** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:35 pm

Is the right ending animation used?

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:25 am

Commander_Red wrote:Is the right ending animation used?

I don't think so.

SSVegetto · Post by **SSVegetto** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:56 pm

I apologize for saying GodofChaos's dragonball season 1 review is terrible. I don't know if he was offended. But some other people were offended by my statements. I'm sorry and I'll try to be more appreciative next time.

He was just trying to be nice and give us some information on it. And I was being a complete jerk.