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Post by Freeza.exe » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:23 pm

Herms wrote:Exactly what are people even arguing about at this point?
ShinRogafuken made a video asking what kind of fan everyone was then Innagadadavida responded with "WELL I GUESS I'M NOT A TRUE FAN THEN" which you know as well as I is going to spiral into a cluterfuck of "I'm a true fan...NO I'M A TRUE FAN!" To which I have to say, who gives a flying dick whos a true fan, it's not that important.

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Post by B » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:24 pm

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Freeza.exe wrote:Wow you guys are still doing this whole "true fan" thing? I'd love to see this kind of devotion to other crappy 80's cartoon shows. "YOU WATCHED THUNDERCATS THE REMAKE!? PFFFFFTTTTT YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO SNARF FANS EVERYWHERE!"
I didn't want to use the term, but its hard to explain who it is the people who are commenting...seriously... :?
It's a fucking childrens cartoon show not deep political opinions. Who cares if they are going to buy this dumb box set. Who cares if dub fans want to see an English version of this stupid cartoon program. You people keep acting like Dragonball is some sort of secret club that only the coolest of cool kids may join. You don't hear He-man enthusiasts bitching about this dumb shit. "YOU BOUGHT THE SPANISH VERSION OF HE-MAN!? PFFFT WELL I GUESS YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE TRUE GENIUS OF THIS SHOW." This isn't some Shakespearean play it has no honor to defend, It's a cartoon will you people stop arguing over the most trivial shit I've ever seen.

Edit: This can go for the dude above me too.
I'm gonna have to look into it, but I'd be willing to bet a humble amount of money the Spanish version of He-Man isn't as tampered with in the storytelling department as the English dub of Dragon Ball is. It's not about xenophobia; anyone who decides the FUNimation dub is bad simply because it is a dub is an idiot. Or well, they made the right decision for the wrong reason, making them ignorami.

And, the honest truth is, most dub fans simply don't get what Dragon Ball is about. Because FUNimation stripped most of it off. So, technically, your quote isn't arguing anything. Unless you leave in the "Spanish" part, since the Spain and Mexico dubs were fine.
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Post by Freeza.exe » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:25 pm

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ShinRogafuken wrote: I didn't want to use the term, but its hard to explain who it is the people who are commenting...seriously... :?
It's a fucking childrens cartoon show not deep political opinions. Who cares if they are going to buy this dumb box set. Who cares if dub fans want to see an English version of this stupid cartoon program. You people keep acting like Dragonball is some sort of secret club that only the coolest of cool kids may join. You don't hear He-man enthusiasts bitching about this dumb shit. "YOU BOUGHT THE SPANISH VERSION OF HE-MAN!? PFFFT WELL I GUESS YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE TRUE GENIUS OF THIS SHOW." This isn't some Shakespearean play it has no honor to defend, It's a cartoon will you people stop arguing over the most trivial shit I've ever seen.

Edit: This can go for the dude above me too.
I'm gonna have to look into it, but I'd be willing to bet a humble amount of money the Spanish version of He-Man isn't as tampered with in the storytelling department as the English dub of Dragon Ball is. It's not about xenophobia; anyone who decides the FUNimation dub is bad simply because it is a dub is an idiot. Or well, they made the right decision for the wrong reason, making them ignorami.

And, the honest truth is, most dub fans simply don't get what Dragon Ball is about. Because FUNimation stripped most of it off. So, technically, your quote isn't arguing anything. Unless you leave in the "Spanish" part, since the Spain and Mexico dubs were fine.
Yeah how dare the script writers tamper with a deep intricate plot like Dragonballs. They totally ruined all of these deep characters in my cartoon aimed at 8 year olds.

It is a childrens cartoon, do you understand me? It's not important who likes it or understands it more. It's a fucking Saturday morning cartoon. Would you get pissed off if Bugs Bunny was altered in Arabia?

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:27 pm

Alright people, the dub was written a decade plus ago. It's time to stop blamming them for writing it as they did and asking them to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars rewriting and rerecording it for the sake of moving closer to the original.
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Post by Freeza.exe » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:29 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Alright people, the dub was written a decade plus ago. It's time to stop blamming them for writing it as they did and asking them to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars rewriting and rerecording it for the sake of moving closer to the original.
Who's people? That's what I'm saying it's a cartoon let people watch whatever version they like without contentiously bringing into question whose a "TRUE ULTIMATE DEE BEE ZEE FAN". I don't like the dub but Jesus Christ this isn't some super secret club with members that don't deserve to be here.

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Post by Innagadadavida » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:30 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:
Herms wrote:Exactly what are people even arguing about at this point?
ShinRogafuken made a video asking what kind of fan everyone was then Innagadadavida responded with "WELL I GUESS I'M NOT A TRUE FAN THEN" which you know as well as I is going to spiral into a cluterfuck of "I'm a true fan...NO I'M A TRUE FAN!" To which I have to say, who gives a flying dick whos a true fan, it's not that important.
Yeah it was just like that. :roll:

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Post by Freeza.exe » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:30 pm

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Herms wrote:Exactly what are people even arguing about at this point?
ShinRogafuken made a video asking what kind of fan everyone was then Innagadadavida responded with "WELL I GUESS I'M NOT A TRUE FAN THEN" which you know as well as I is going to spiral into a cluterfuck of "I'm a true fan...NO I'M A TRUE FAN!" To which I have to say, who gives a flying dick whos a true fan, it's not that important.
Yeah it was just like that. :roll:
That's exactly what you fucking said go back a page. I'm simplifying it but Jesus Christ are you seriously trying to deny that? But whatever everyone is right I'm wrong...fuck it.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:33 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:
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Freeza.exe wrote: ShinRogafuken made a video asking what kind of fan everyone was then Innagadadavida responded with "WELL I GUESS I'M NOT A TRUE FAN THEN" which you know as well as I is going to spiral into a cluterfuck of "I'm a true fan...NO I'M A TRUE FAN!" To which I have to say, who gives a flying dick whos a true fan, it's not that important.
Yeah it was just like that. :roll:
That's exactly what you fucking said go back a page. I'm simplifying it but Jesus Christ are you seriously trying to deny that?
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Post by B » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:33 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:
B wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote: It's a fucking childrens cartoon show not deep political opinions. Who cares if they are going to buy this dumb box set. Who cares if dub fans want to see an English version of this stupid cartoon program. You people keep acting like Dragonball is some sort of secret club that only the coolest of cool kids may join. You don't hear He-man enthusiasts bitching about this dumb shit. "YOU BOUGHT THE SPANISH VERSION OF HE-MAN!? PFFFT WELL I GUESS YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE TRUE GENIUS OF THIS SHOW." This isn't some Shakespearean play it has no honor to defend, It's a cartoon will you people stop arguing over the most trivial shit I've ever seen.

Edit: This can go for the dude above me too.
I'm gonna have to look into it, but I'd be willing to bet a humble amount of money the Spanish version of He-Man isn't as tampered with in the storytelling department as the English dub of Dragon Ball is. It's not about xenophobia; anyone who decides the FUNimation dub is bad simply because it is a dub is an idiot. Or well, they made the right decision for the wrong reason, making them ignorami.

And, the honest truth is, most dub fans simply don't get what Dragon Ball is about. Because FUNimation stripped most of it off. So, technically, your quote isn't arguing anything. Unless you leave in the "Spanish" part, since the Spain and Mexico dubs were fine.
Yeah how dare the script writers tamper with a deep intricate plot like Dragonballs. They totally ruined all of these deep characters in my cartoon aimed at 8 year olds.

It is a childrens cartoon, do you understand me? It's not important who likes it or understands it more. It's a fucking Saturday morning cartoon. Would you get pissed off if Bugs Bunny was altered in Arabia?
There's no need to get upset. If you have a problem with someone challenging your opinions, you probably shouldn't be on a forum.
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Post by Freeza.exe » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:34 pm

B wrote:
Freeza.exe wrote:
B wrote: I'm gonna have to look into it, but I'd be willing to bet a humble amount of money the Spanish version of He-Man isn't as tampered with in the storytelling department as the English dub of Dragon Ball is. It's not about xenophobia; anyone who decides the FUNimation dub is bad simply because it is a dub is an idiot. Or well, they made the right decision for the wrong reason, making them ignorami.

And, the honest truth is, most dub fans simply don't get what Dragon Ball is about. Because FUNimation stripped most of it off. So, technically, your quote isn't arguing anything. Unless you leave in the "Spanish" part, since the Spain and Mexico dubs were fine.
Yeah how dare the script writers tamper with a deep intricate plot like Dragonballs. They totally ruined all of these deep characters in my cartoon aimed at 8 year olds.

It is a childrens cartoon, do you understand me? It's not important who likes it or understands it more. It's a fucking Saturday morning cartoon. Would you get pissed off if Bugs Bunny was altered in Arabia?
There's no need to get upset. If you have a problem with someone challenging your opinions, you probably shouldn't be on a forum.
I have a problem with people acting like morons over a cartoon show. It's common sense

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Post by Freeza.exe » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:35 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
Please leave Jesus out of your insults. Thanks!
Yeah, how about no?

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Post by Kaboom » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:38 pm

Can we please stop it with all the dickery? Like, now?
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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:39 pm

How about we get back to actually talking about the DragonBox?

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Post by Raki » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:45 pm

I'm still just as excited as I was in July for this release. Whenever it comes in the mail, I plan on moving it to the front of my DVD viewing.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:46 pm

I really like the music Welch composed for the trailer. I'd love to see him continue to do more in the same vein (maybe compose some and through it up on his YT?)
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Post by SSVegetto » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:13 pm

B wrote:And, the honest truth is, most dub fans simply don't get what Dragon Ball is about. Because FUNimation stripped most of it off. So, technically, your quote isn't arguing anything. Unless you leave in the "Spanish" part, since the Spain and Mexico dubs were fine.
Ahh, ugh, say again? I'm a dub fan and Japanese fan, and I have watched the Japanese version of Dragonball and I know what it's about. And another thing, why do they need to know what Dragon Ball is about(Who is to say they don't in the first place - huge assumption)? Can't they just enjoy it. That is what really matters, is that they enjoy it. This is a cartoon we are talking about, not someones life. If they choose to enjoy something, that doesn't make them less inferior to someone else.

Also, that doesn't make them any less of a true fan than anyone else. Putting someone into a degrading category is just proving like you have some sort of ego that you think you are a better fan than they are. Over what? A cartoon show?

He was degrading fans with a certain preference that they liked which was the Bruce Falconer score.

That is just a very arrogant statement in itself to say they don't know what Dragonball is about if they like the English Dub.

He implies Casual fans. Which means , that people that like the English dub aren't true fans.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:19 pm

Freeza.exe wrote:I have a problem with people acting like morons over a cartoon show. It's common sense
Who's the one freaking out again? I'm sorry but you need to practice your own preaching.

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Post by Kaboom » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:26 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Can we please stop it with all the dickery? Like, now?
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Post by SSVegetto » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:33 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:Can we please stop it with all the dickery? Like, now?
Which ones, just the ones that are arguing? or discussing? or the ones throwing insults. I'm being careful not to throw insults.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:35 pm

SSVegetto wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote:Can we please stop it with all the dickery? Like, now?
Which ones, just the ones that are arguing? or discussing? or the ones throwing insults. I'm being careful not to throw insults.
It's an over all message to everyone.

Not that it's my place to speak for the staff.
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