What character would you have given a bigger role?

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:31 pm

In no particular order...

Namu. Filler managed to include him after his main goal was dealt with, and his fighting style seems unique enough that were it combined with ki techniques we see later, he could have been a unique and perhaps useful character, at least a little while longer. And though he and Tenshinhan are similar in personality (serious and all that), there's plenty of contrast that could have gone somewhere interesting.
S'no. I don't know why; I think the Traffic Safety thing made me think of her as being appropriate for a more long-term part of the cast. I don't see her leaving Jingle Village all that often, though. Hm.
Launch. She could have at least showed up in filler while T'en and Chaozu were training for the androuningen. Sigh.
Yajirobe. Out of nowhere is someone on par with the world's strongest at the time, almost like the anti-Krillin... except not. Not going to Namek is what killed his involvement, I think... even though he did briefly appear when #19 and #20 blew up his vehicle. Once again the somewhat unique character ... runs off to hide for all eternity. DO we even see him after the Cell Games? He doesn't do anything in the Buu saga... does he appear at all?
ChiChi. Something that came to mind recently was the question of why she and Goku settled down to begin with; why not take Gohan on a world journey like Goku and Pan? Totally counts as both education and training, and if the whole family is involved, all the better! It'd certainly help keep ChiChi as more than the nagging wife back on the ranch.
Chaozu. Somewhat unique (like Yajirobe), but as soon as he's chased Krillin around with the dodonpa long enough for the Crane Revenge plot to start moving, his entire purpose becomes "Tenshinhan's sidekick". Dangit, he used self destruct. I hate it when they do that.

The trend seems to be: The more unique the character, the smaller the role. Unless you're Piccolo.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:07 pm

If I were to make anyone more useful, I'd make characters that normally stay on the sidelines more useful in the same way that we got to see everyone be useful in the Jump Special.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:17 pm

Mr. Popo. I mean, he was at least as powerful as Goku at some point. I'd like to have seen him defend Kami's lookout a little during the Buu arc.

Pecking order, etc.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:54 pm

My automatic reaction would be Piccolo because there's no such thing as too much of him, but in reality if I think about it... I want more Ranchi. Seriously, the last time we really see her she's drunk and heartbroken and then we never hear about her again. It would have been wonderful to even just see her in one more ep, like maybe she and Ten run across each other in all of his time out in the wilderness. Just let the poor woman know the guy's alive and let there be something resembling a conclusion O_o

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:14 am

Velasa wrote:Ranchi.

I love Laanchi-chan!! She is Hawaii desu-yo!

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:19 am

-_- That's what the people I talked to called her when I first started with the show, it's what I got used to and now it's stuck in my brain. I type it without thinking about it.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:23 am

Velasa wrote:-_- That's what the people I talked to called her when I first started with the show, it's what I got used to and now it's stuck in my brain. I type it without thinking about it.

Naw, it's okay! I'm not trying to laugh at you, I'm laughing with you!

I don't mind, since I call Vegeta "Bejiita-sama" all the time!

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:24 am

Obviously, her name is Launch.

Launch!

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:51 am

I think Lunch is the more proper (albeit not used) translation. But that may just be me. xD

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:02 am

-Chichi
-Tenshinhan
-Kuririn, during the latter half of Z and GT
-Everyone in GT other than Son Goku (especially Goten, Gohan, Trunks and Uub)

Kroni_Hunter · Post by **Kroni_Hunter** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:09 am

Another good character: Nail, during the Namek Saga could have done so much more

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:26 am

Though it doesn't seem as big here as it tends to be, I still want to mension:

"Bigger role" and "Fight more" are not the same thing, even in a fighting-centric series like DB/Z/GT.
Mr. Popo saved Dende from Buu, after all.

Despite all that, I think Bulma could have been more useful and less annoying on Namek... ^_^
(Nail too. Hm.)

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:04 am

Rocketman wrote: Yamcha has never been able to put up a fight against anybody.

Except for Early Dragonball Goku, who was hungry at the time. Well, nevermind.

penguintruth wrote:Mr. Popo. I mean, he was at least as powerful as Goku at some point. I'd like to have seen him defend Kami's lookout a little during the Buu arc.

So was Yajirobe, and he sucked as much balls as Popo was to do in the end. And Yajirobe was more of a fighter than Popo was.
Think of it: Ultimate Yajirobe. Slices up the heavens with his sword. Be afraid! He may eat up your planet!

Kroni_Hunter wrote:Another good character: Nail, during the Namek Saga could have done so much more

Well, him merging with Piccolo made it possible for Goku to make it in time. If he didn't, everyone would be dead. Also, he may have contributed to Piccolo almost being as strong as a Super Saiya-jin in the Androids arc.

caejones wrote: Despite all that, I think Bulma could have been more useful and less annoying on Namek... ^_^

Me too. Her skills in the Namekian language went to waste, and was only useful to steer the ship. Also, she could have had made the wish when Porunga appeared, if she was present.
But hey, let's make Japanese/English the universal language, spoken in every planet across the Universe!

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:37 pm

In the dream world that floats around in my fanfiction-prone brain, reading these posts makes me think of a reality where instead of bitching in a cave Bulma could have been relaying messages between Nameccian resistance members while Neru was out there whupping ass across the planet.

It's a beautiful world. I just need to go and, you know, write it.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:42 pm

the_abberration wrote:He could have still gotten the power up, but have it so that he would have had to surpass even this to go to another level.

How can he surpass a powerup that unlocks EVERY SCRAP OF HIDDEN POWER HE HAD?

Babidi (after recognizing him as Piccolo Daimao) brought Piccolo under his control.

Why? Majin Vegeta is far far stronger, and Babidi was only possessing people to power up Buu.

In any case, I'm always amused by people whining about Humans getting more time, like 3/4 of the entire series just isn't enough.

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:46 pm

Rocketman wrote: Why? Majin Vegeta is far far stronger, and Babidi was only possessing people to power up Buu.

Because Piccolo is awesomer and painfully sexy?

Basically its because he's cool, and we want to see him kick some more ass. It doesn't have to make that much sense. Personally I prefer Pic having completed his character arc in the way he did, moving into a teacher role and such (plus I thought that the majin change required at least a little compliance, which isn't like Pic) but so much seems to have broken by what I've heard of the Buu saga why the hell not.

Piccolo Daimao · Post by **Piccolo Daimao** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:26 pm

Rocketman wrote:
laserkid wrote:It would have been kick ass to see Yamcha actually put up a fight against the Artificial Humans, rather then just get a hole in his chest.
Yamcha has never been able to put up a fight against anybody.

Actually he has. In the manga, he put up a fight with early Dragon Ball Goku, the Invisible Man, Tenshinhan (albeit Tenshinhan was holding back) & a Saibaiman. And in filler he fought with Reacoom and Olibu.

@laserkid - How on earth could the humans ever keep up with Piccolo? Even in the Piccolo Daimao Saga, they couldn't do anything against him.

I want Launch and Tenshinhan to get into a relationship. I know it's likely that it wouldn't happen, since Tenshinhan isn't the type to settle down in a relationship, because he is so focused on his training and lives in the mountains with no company other than Chaozu. I doubt Launch would want to live in the mountains, so she'd probably force him to steal money and buy a house or something. And Launch would treat Chaozu like a kid. It'd be like another Chichi-Goku. Ah, such missed opportunities...

the_abberration · Post by **the_abberration** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:28 pm

Rocketman wrote:
the_abberration wrote:He could have still gotten the power up, but have it so that he would have had to surpass even this to go to another level.
How can he surpass a powerup that unlocks EVERY SCRAP OF HIDDEN POWER HE HAD?
Babidi (after recognizing him as Piccolo Daimao) brought Piccolo under his control.
Why? Majin Vegeta is far far stronger, and Babidi was only possessing people to power up Buu.

In any case, I'm always amused by people whining about Humans getting more time, like 3/4 of the entire series just isn't enough.

I don't know, maybe like after Gohan had hidden power brought out by Guru, he goes on to become SSJ2, and after that has hidden power drawn out again by Old Kai. It seems no matter how many times their full power gets brought out, they seem to reach another level.

As far as Piccolo goes, didn't the author of the post ask "So, out of any of the characters, which one would you have given a bigger role and how would you have accomplished it?"

Just my thought on how I would do it. Didn't think I was whining about it though.

blactooth · Post by **blactooth** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:21 pm

I really think that GT should have done more with Uub.
He is the reincarnation of the most powerful being in the universe, yet he never deals with his transformation from evil to good. He never had any hallucinations, and his confrontation with Mr. Buu was not what I had in mind.
Based on the fact that untrained kid Uub could challenge Goku would make me think that maybe after 10 years or so Uub would at least be able to take out Vegeta (who could never go SSJ3). I am thinking the Dragon Universe in DBZ:B3

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:24 pm

Rocketman wrote: In any case, I'm always amused by people whining about Humans getting more time, like 3/4 of the entire series just isn't enough.

Heh. I find myself somewhat torn on this.
On the one hand, the story has been, since the very first chapter, and the very last, Goku's story. That doesn't mean he has to save the day all the time, but it does justify the focus of the story on Goku. And Goku's nature kinda tends to make expanding on the rest of the cast a task requiring deliber...ance?
On the other hand... weh?
-_- *makes Chaozu open a restaurant*. "Chaozu no gyouza ya chige"? -_-.

The_Abberration wrote: Just my thought on how I would do it. Didn't think I was whining about it though.

I think he was (somewhat) generalizing, since that feeling tends to recur. ^^

I think the way the story progressed and the nature of the characters involved kinda inevitably led to where it did. As awesome as I find Yajirobe and T'en, we see very early on the personality traits that lead to where they are in the Androuningen / Buu eras.

Characters like L'unch and ChiChi, though... I think both Toriyama and the Anime writers just stopped caring a bit quickly.

Kanzenshuu

What character would you have given a bigger role?

Uub

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