Die-hard dub fans (why are you, if so?)

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:01 pm

isucamper wrote:Perhaps offer suggestions for improvements? If you know the dub well, maybe you can offer good insight.

Keep opinions out of it. There are fair observations and then there are bias observations.
"Constantly talks like a goofy clown" and "Uses same dated slang as other characters" are both bias opinions and could be refuted easily.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:27 pm

Yamcha saying, "That's whack!" is not up for debate. Nobody. Says. That.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:34 pm

penguintruth wrote:Yamcha saying, "That's whack!" is not up for debate. Nobody. Says. That.

Well, it should just be listed as "Uses 80's slang" instead of stating it as an "opinionated fact."

And yes, people do say that... unfortunately... I just recently graduated from High School, and people still said crap like "dat b wack cuz!"

YouTube · Post by **Hujio** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:35 pm

Dude, that's whack and you know it!

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:37 pm

I really felt like Krillin should have said "This is nuts!", "Mondo cool!", and "nerdball" more often, because it makes his character so witty and charming.

Make sure to mention how amazingly hip Krillin is.

Oh, and don't forget, Yamcha also said, "You da man!" and "That bites!"

The narrator once said, "Krillin's in da house!", if I'm not mistaken. So even the narrator is a loser.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:54 pm

penguintruth wrote:"You da man!".

I thought it was "You da bomb!"

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:10 pm

penguintruth wrote:The narrator once said, "Krillin's in da house!", if I'm not mistaken. So even the narrator is a loser.

Wasn't that during the first attempt the dub had at DBZ though? Like it or not with the dub, it did get better, even if just a little bit, over time. This will only work if we use the best version of the dub.

Big Momma · Post by **Big Momma** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:22 pm

penguintruth wrote:Yamcha saying, "That's whack!" is not up for debate. Nobody. Says. That.

In honestly, my friends do still say that.

And SSJ2Bardock has a point, most of that was in the beginning, when they were first dubbing it.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:26 pm

The way I figure it, there had to be a reason for all the stupid corny lines. I mean they couldn't have just possibly said, "screw it, let's make this corny as hell!" There had to have been some politics or whatever to encourage it...right? Right? I sure hope I'm right.

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:34 pm

Big Momma wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Yamcha saying, "That's whack!" is not up for debate. Nobody. Says. That.
In honestly, my friends do still say that.

And SSJ2Bardock has a point, most of that was in the beginning, when they were first dubbing it.

Funimation had around thirty episodes before "Krillin's in the house!" The narrator said this when Krillin came back to life from Namek. Not to mention, I imagine they were the ones that wrote the script for the Ocean cast dub. They had so many years to do a good script, and we got "Krillin's in the house!" and "That's whack!" and a load of other corny one-liners and lame lingo. And music every single moment.

Am I suppose to give Funimation a break?

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:55 pm

penguintruth wrote:Am I suppose to give Funimation a break?

No but you could refer to the most current version of the dub. (Not you specifically just in general)

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:58 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Am I suppose to give Funimation a break?
No but you could refer to the most current version of the dub. (Not you specifically just in general)

Season 3 onwards is still the most current version of the dub. Yes, it is still embarassing to acknowledge.

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:02 pm

Rory wrote:
Chrono Trigger wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Am I suppose to give Funimation a break?
No but you could refer to the most current version of the dub. (Not you specifically just in general)
Season 3 onwards is still the most current version of the dub.

Yes, considering they completely half-assed the "revised dialogue..."

penguintruth · Post by **penguintruth** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:02 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Am I suppose to give Funimation a break?
No but you could refer to the most current version of the dub. (Not you specifically just in general)

Meaning... the re-dub of seasons 1 and 2?

It's been a while since I've last seen them, probably not since they aired on Cartoon Network.

When I get the Dragon Box, I plan to give it another go.

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:07 pm

Yeah I was talking about the re-dub. I was saying that it would be better to refer to that when looking at the characterizations. I wasn't saying the re-dub is any better or worse. (As far as good/bad dubs go at least)

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:07 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Am I suppose to give Funimation a break?
No but you could refer to the most current version of the dub. (Not you specifically just in general)

^This is what I meant.

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:36 pm

I actually liked the 'Krillin's in da house!' line, mainly because they were actually showing him respect. 'Krillin, fuck yeah!' is a pretty refreshing sentiment considering that the American fandom's so stuck on those annoying, butt ugly Super Saiyans.

Ultimate_DB_Fan · Post by **Ultimate_DB_Fan** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:11 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:The way I figure it, there had to be a reason for all the stupid corny lines. I mean they couldn't have just possibly said, "screw it, let's make this corny as hell!" There had to have been some politics or whatever to encourage it...right? Right? I sure hope I'm right.

Hey, they're FUNimation. I guess they just liked making the dialogue 'fun.'

KaiserNeko · Post by **KaiserNeko** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:20 pm

Let's not forget that Barry Watson was a huge driving force behind the Americanization of the series and many of the corny changes that happened, along with script-writer Terry Klassen. They were there for a good while, though I know Terry left somewhere around the Garlic Jr. saga, not later than the Android Saga.

Blame those too, among all else, and understand they are no longer with the company.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:49 pm

While we're talking about current dub, I just wanna throw out the "Goku's dad's a brilliant scientist" and "It's okay I see their parachutes" type stuff. That is nowhere near current dialog but it's being recycled as if it hasn't been remedied since.