Cell's Genki-Dama Claim

[Olivier Hague]

Now it's true that Freezer never shot his special "finger beams"

Maybe he did, in Cell's past. Remember: we didn't get to see that second fight between Gokû and Freeza.

[Shoryuken]

Because memories are stored in the DNA.

If so, why he was surprised when he saw Piccolo regenerates his arm? Shouldn't he know already that he can regenerate without being told by someone else?

That's a good point, I really think as I said that he knows about what the spy robot could see, that's why he can still be surprised.

Now it's true that Freezer never shot his special "finger beams" (I know it's not the real way, but I guess anyone can see what it is that way). He may have found his "Freezer abilities" on his own, or it may come to him instinctively since it seems to be pretty natural to fire those for Freezer, not like it would be a specific technic that needs to be "learned" but rather some way of shooting that his body offers naturally, just a kind of blast specific to his nature. But of course, that's just a guess, there's no proof of what I'm saying.

By finger beams do then mean the telekinetic bullets he used against Piccolo when he was in his third form or do you mean his rapid fire death-beam attack?

[Cold Skin]

Maybe he did, in Cell's past. Remember: we didn't get to see that second fight between Gokû and Freeza.

Oh, another good point! Yes, now that you make me think about it, Cell comes from a future where Trunks didn't kill Freezer, and therefore we didn't see about what Freezer used or not in that timeline, so it's perfectly possible that he tried to use it against the population for fun (though it seems he's willing to let his men do the dirty job at least in a first time, but maybe he wanted to play) or more likely as you said against Goku.

By finger beams do then mean the telekinetic bullets he used against Piccolo when he was in his third form or do you mean his rapid fire death-beam attack?

Either of them if Cell used them (I don't remember everything and there are parts of the anime that I've never seen or long forgotten, so lots of filler parts/attacks are unknown to me for now) - KAI and the Anime Comics should refresh my memory or show me new moments when they get that far).

It's true that I never considered those moves as "technics", but just natural shots for Freezer, so the killing beam of Freezer's final form was just an extension of the beams when he's in his third form to me. They do appear as materialized in the manga when he's in his final form, but it seems they remain invisble to the eye (except for Vegeta and Goku at this point). I don't know if the anime shows them as two different kinds of beams (with physical difference). I don't know which of these versions Cell uses, the "submachine gun" beams or the "deadly" ones. I remember he used the "deadly" kind in one of the games, but in the anime I don't know!

[mAcChaos]

Because memories are stored in the DNA.

If so, why he was surprised when he saw Piccolo regenerates his arm? Shouldn't he know already that he can regenerate without being told by someone else?

That's a good point, I really think as I said that he knows about what the spy robot could see, that's why he can still be surprised.

I think he was being cocky and just forgot.

[Dayspring]

Because memories are stored in the DNA.

And this is why you don't apply science to DBZ.

But DBZ is applying science to itself by mentioning DNA at all.

Pseudo-science is not real life science, though.

Take 2012 for example: the world slowly stopping its rotations after 5,000 years would indeed lead to scientifically proven natural disasters for the planet, but the sudden dissappearance of chunks of the Mantel and the clouds magically raining down those missing chunks are not among the list of possible scientifically proven disasters. Conservation of mass is also science, but largescale random teleportation is NOT an example of conservation of mass.

DBZ science is no different from that or from sci-fi. Radiation leads to mutations that can cause super powers in comics. Radiation leads to mutation in science, but those mutations are hardly godlike.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I honestly think he could've done it. Seems odd, but you never know with Cell.

Btw, this is random, but what exactly would Cold's cells do for Cell? Was it ever implied? I recall Piccolo mentioning along the lines of Cell being a threat to the galaxy because he has Freeza and his fathers cells.

[MCDaveG]

He can do that in Infinite World and Budokai series, so it's true nah?

Also Buu in Budokai 2 after absorbing Cell

[Bussani]

Btw, this is random, but what exactly would Cold's cells do for Cell? Was it ever implied? I recall Piccolo mentioning along the lines of Cell being a threat to the galaxy because he has Freeza and his fathers cells.

Probably just because he was one of the strongest beings in the universe at the time. The logic behind Cell just seems to be, "get DNA of strong fighters, mix it together and something strong should be produced."

I dunno if Cold really added anything he wouldn't have had from Freeza alone, though.

[MCDaveG]

I think that If the Cell will have cells of Freeza or Cold or Cooler or every 3 included in his biological self, it will have the same effect, obviously I can say.....

[Hellspawn28]

I doubt he can do it since IIRC it was stated that you need a pure heart to do it, and it likely another Hyperbole in the series IMO.

[Herms]

I doubt he can do it since IIRC it was stated that you need a pure heart to do it, and it likely another Hyperbole in the series IMO.

I still don't remember that ever being said outside of movie 7.

[Ultimate_DB_Fan]

Cell has Goku's DNA within him and because of that, he can indeed create it. Whether movie 7's "pure of heart" logic is to be believed, it doesn't apply to Cell. He has Goku's cells inside him and that's all that matters.
Common sense, man.

[Pitzu]

Because memories are stored in the DNA.

And this is why you don't apply science to DBZ.

But DBZ is applying science to itself by mentioning DNA at all.

DBZ science is like Metal Gear Solid science


THE GENES, BROTHER, THE DOMINANT GENES MAKE YOU BETTER THAN ME
I HAVE RECESSIVE GENES THEREFORE I SUCK AND ARE BRITISH

[Rocketman]

Cell has Goku's DNA within him and because of that, he can indeed create it.

So does Goten.

[Big Boss]

And this is why you don't apply science to DBZ.

But DBZ is applying science to itself by mentioning DNA at all.

DBZ science is like Metal Gear Solid science


THE GENES, BROTHER, THE DOMINANT GENES MAKE YOU BETTER THAN ME
I HAVE RECESSIVE GENES THEREFORE I SUCK AND ARE BRITISH

Actually, Ocelot says at the end of Metal Gear Solid that the "inferior" one won in the end, suggesting that Solid had the Recessive and Liquid had the Dominant genes.

Even then, it's not down-right said that Solid has the Recessive genes, just "inferior". That could mean Dominant or Recessive, because neither = "Better or worse". Chances are, Liquid was manipulated by The Patriots to think otherwise.

[finnishjuoppo]

Cell has Goku's DNA within him and because of that, he can indeed create it.

So does Goten.

your point was?

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

That cells doesn't exactly mean the guy can perform the attack. Not in this case, anyway.

[Godo]

Cell has Goku's DNA within him and because of that, he can indeed create it.

So does Goten.

your point was?

I think that he is implying that genes and cells cannot have memory, and thus you can't "remember" techniques that someone else had.
But I would say that nerve and brain cells beg to differ.
We don't know if Dr. Gero only used the chromosomes or if he also used the cells.

[Rocketman]

Cell has Goku's DNA within him and because of that, he can indeed create it.

So does Goten.

your point was?

That if all you need to use someone's technique is their DNA, then Goten should be able to use all of Goku's techniques, since his DNA is 50% Goku's.

But I would say that nerve and brain cells beg to differ.
We don't know if Dr. Gero only used the chromosomes or if he also used the cells.

Nerve cells are conductors only, not storage. And Vegeta didn't splatter Goku's brain across the desert.

[IncompetentOverlord]

Here's a thought:

Perhaps chi and a person's cells are linked in some way, like maybe the spirit releases energy through the cells. If so, then having Goku's cells would also mean he had Goku's chi. So, though Cell himself may be evil, he could have pure chi courtesy of Goku. However, Piccolo, Vegeta, Frieza, and Cold's cells probably diluted that chi beyond repair.

Hey, I gave it a shot .