FUNimation Dragon Box Z #1 (In-Hands) Discussion

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:03 pm

Yeah that's right. It's called normal and it takes the format in which the DVD was originally made and uses that. But it is "pan and scan" isn't it? Like isn't that the term for it or something?

But just think of your cable box or satellite, etc. When it gives you viewing options, (on mine) there's "normal," "stretch," "zoom," and "auto-fit". And normal shows regular TV in 4:3 while it shows HD in 16:9.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:08 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Yeah that's right. It's called normal and it takes the format in which the DVD was originally made and uses that. But it is "pan and scan" isn't it? Like isn't that the term for it or something?

But just think of your cable box or satellite, etc. When it gives you viewing options, (on mine) there's "normal," "stretch," "zoom," and "auto-fit". And normal shows regular TV in 4:3 while it shows HD in 16:9.

No. Pan-and-scan is something they do in widescreen movies formatter to fit a 4:3 TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETGfeSim1K4

Mountain · Post by **Mountain** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:50 pm

Pan and scan is evil.

SSJSteve · Post by **SSJSteve** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:19 pm

Smooth Criminal wrote:Yeah, except you're wrong about it displaying in 4:3 on a 16:9 tv. As stated, it by default stretches the image to fit the full screen... And for me personally, I have yet to find a way that allows me to view it with black pillar boxes.

Yeah it was stretching the image for me too. My TV is now 4:3 and my DVD player is 16:9. The menu is showing up as 4:3, so I guess I can't win.

Well the episodes are in 4:3 (black blocks on the side) and it looks great.

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:40 pm

VegettoEX wrote:Folks, folks.

If I'm understanding the hardware technology correctly, you don't need to and shouldn't be adjusting your brightness. The FUNimation Dragon Boxes are increased at 10% brightness to match how the JP DVDs would be displayed on a Japanese television without further image modification.

The difference is made so you don't need to change anything.

In that respect, if you have the R2 DVDs and are watching those in the US, you should increase your brightness by 10% if you want to match how it would be displayed if you lived in Japan.

Unless I'm totally wrong. But that seems to be the logical reading of it.

Oh, well that's convenient. Thanks for the clarification!

whitey · Post by **whitey** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:10 pm

Did the original Dragon Books have any information concerning the two DBZ Tv Specials? If so that could mean a release of them may come in the Z Dragon Boxes somewhere rather than a Movies Dragon Box if they do intend to release them again.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:02 pm

johnboy1 wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Folks, folks.

If I'm understanding the hardware technology correctly, you don't need to and shouldn't be adjusting your brightness. The FUNimation Dragon Boxes are increased at 10% brightness to match how the JP DVDs would be displayed on a Japanese television without further image modification.

The difference is made so you don't need to change anything.

In that respect, if you have the R2 DVDs and are watching those in the US, you should increase your brightness by 10% if you want to match how it would be displayed if you lived in Japan.

Unless I'm totally wrong. But that seems to be the logical reading of it.
Oh, well that's convenient. Thanks for the clarification!

Yeah, as far as I can tell, the only reason we're seeing a brightness difference in the screencaps is because computers are uniform in presentation, wheras TVs aren't. So the Computer can pick up the difference where a TV would display them the same.
This is just the way I'm reading the situation anyway.

ShadowDude112 · Post by **ShadowDude112** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:48 pm

Kendamu wrote:If your TV is 16:9, your DVD player should be set to 16:9. If 4:3, then 4:3. If watching the Dragonbox on a 16:9 TV, the menu will be 16:9 and the episodes will be 4:3 with black bars on the sides. If watching on a 4:3 TV, the menu will be 4:3 with stuff cut off the sides of the menu and the episodes will be 4:3 filling your entire screen.

This is how the menu will appear on a 4:3 screen.

Actually I noticed on my computer the menu is 16:9 and the show is 4:3 I don't know why. I could blame Vista but I don't think it's Vista's fault this time surprisingly.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:49 pm

I guess I didn't make it clear that I was talking about displaying it on a television.

ShadowDude112 · Post by **ShadowDude112** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:52 pm

Kendamu wrote:I guess I didn't make it clear that I was talking about displaying it on a television.

Ah ok. Well still I find it odd on a computer it's in 16:9 and the show is 4:3 so maybe that's how the computer reads it.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:57 pm

Well, the menu is 16:9. The side portions of it are cut off on a 4:3 TV.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:06 am

So did they fix whatever was wrong with the Dbox?

Wasnt there a temporary cease in sales on Amazon or something?

OutlawTorn · Post by **OutlawTorn** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:14 am

I don't think there was anything actually wrong with it, as it was only Amazon.com which briefly suspended sales, Amazon.ca was business as usual as, I think, RightStuf was, as well. Mine came from Amazon.ca and there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with it that I can see.

One thing I have noticed, which looks a little odd, is the disc listings on the spine of the DVD books list the discs as 001 - 003, etc. The triple digits are a bit conspicuous as it is highly doubtful the number of discs will be in excess of 100.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:23 am

Alright; just making sure.

Christmas is gonna be my time to catch up. All I need is the last steel case double feature; DB seasons 1 and 2 and the Dbox and Ill have all the Funimation DVDs to date.

I'm debating buying those individual Trunks & Bardock DVDs.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:59 am

Yes, we have another review: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/ ... gon-box-01

nathantheguitarist · Post by **nathantheguitarist** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:20 am

Bah... their review is alright, but less-than-fair, and thus means nothing to me. Aside from their Dragonball bashing, they give the Dragon Box a B-, while their reviews for Season's 6 and 8 releases got B and B-.

And they gave Season 6 a pro of "-fantastic remastering job."

So yeah... I'm just going to assume from now on that us Daizex goers are the only ones who really get how fucking awesome this release is.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 2:54 am

*Points downward to ANN quote*

ANN DBox Review wrote:dragged out pissing contest

My aren't they professional.

*After seeing that type of attitude by what's supposed to a news website, kinda feels like she's either going to stop visiting ANN, or just going to drastically reduce the number of visits*.

At the very least, I won't be listening to their mini-podcasts any longer or refer the site itself to anyone.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:21 am

Nobody's learning a greater truth about humanity here. There's nothing here to make you contemplate the essence of life, the universe, or the purpose of all things; in the 42 episodes included in this inaugural Dragon Box, it boils down to Kung-fu Huck Finn versus a Russ Troll with attitude.

*smirks at the possibly unintentional Hitch-hikers Guide reference*

I don't understand why people continue to hold the fact that Dragon Ball isn't deep against it. Isn't it kind of universally understood that you need shallow to make deep things deep? Same thing with video games; reviewer after reviewer will speak ill of a game for not trying anything new. Jesus Christ, if every game I ever played tried something new then nothing would get perfected and it would be hard to appreciate innovation. If every show made me realize a greater truth about humanity, well.. I'd just get tired of watching pretentious shit. Imagine watching Waking Life 80 times in a row. Jeez... Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's bad to constantly reinforce the idea that innovation is nice, and that deep compelling story-lines are commendable, I just think that it's not fair to hold this standard against everything.

I'm not trying to validate Dragon Ball in particular (the show is about as deep as the film it's printed on), I really think reviewers shouldn't hold shallowness against a show, especially if it has redeeming qualities. Dragon Ball is what it is and it doesn't try to be anything else. The last thing we need is pretension in Shonen. I'll tell you right now, One Piece lays it on a little thick sometimes and I get pissed off when I find myself blubbering over a stupid little talking reindeer.

johnboy1 · Post by **johnboy1** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:25 am

OutlawTorn wrote:One thing I have noticed, which looks a little odd, is the disc listings on the spine of the DVD books list the discs as 001 - 003, etc. The triple digits are a bit conspicuous as it is highly doubtful the number of discs will be in excess of 100.

Well, if they do continuous numbering for all the discs in all the DBoxes, including DB, GT, and the movies... no, you're right. Even the most generous allotment of discs would barely break 90.

G1Ravage · Post by **G1Ravage** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:32 am

Smooth Criminal wrote:Question about viewing the Dragon Box in the proper 4:3 format.

First off, I am watching on a 16:9 HDTV (like most of you, I assume). This of course means that when I pop the Dragon Box into my PS3 and begin watching, the screen stretches the image to fit the full capacity, resulting in a slight deformation of objects (though the menus are in a full 16:9...).

What are my options? If I manually set the television's image options to display in 4:3, I get horribly distracting BRIGHT gray pillar boxes. There is no option on either of my two HDTVs to set these pillar boxes to a less-distracting black.

On the PS3, I see no option to set display preferences. Am I missing something that would enable black pillar boxes? The 360 does this when playing Xbox Original games, for example.

I would like to view this show in the correct aspect ratio, but unfortunately the only option I've seen that enables me to do this gives me gray pillar boxes, which literally boggles my mind at how horrid it looks. Watching it stretched to 16:9 isn't so bad, but can be a bit jarring at times....

Bleh...

You definitely have some sort of setting wrong on either your TV or your PS3, but I'm leaning more toward your PS3. I'm also watching my Dragon Box on a 16x9 HDTV with a PS3. The menu is anamorphic widescreen, so it displays 16x9 on my TV, but the episodes themselves are displayed in 4x3, with black bars on the sides. This is done through the PS3, and not my TV, because my TV is set to Dot by Dot, and it's displaying exactly what the PS3 is sending it, pixel perfect.

Also, since you say Kuririn's ear is cut off on the menu, perhaps you've mistakenly zoomed in a bit.