I'm charting each character's position throughout the series

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:05 am

I'm thinking of doing something very similar as to what was shown on XKCD: http://xkcd.com/657/large/

My chart will be using 42 volumes of the manga as a reference, and all filler will be ignored/left for someone else online to do. It will show each character's locations, who currently has the dragon balls and radar, and perhaps even what SSJ form they are in.

I already took notes for everyone's location from Arrival of Radditz until Androids 19 and 20. I'll start off with DBZ and then go back to finish Dragon Ball. Right now I'm trying to do the easy stuff so there won't be problems further down the road. This easy stuff includes figuring out how to show Captain Ginyu switching bodies, symbols to include to show fusion/absorption/transformation, and what color everyone should be.

Captain Ginyu body switch styles (I need to decide): http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7079/cptginyuchart.png

So I want to hear your opinions so I can decide what to do.

Which of the 5 Captain Ginyu body switch styles do you like? Any suggestions?
What color for Goku, Gohan, and Goten? (I want them to be some kind of orange, but different shades and tones)
How about Krillin?
What color used for the unnamed Earth's Population?
Should the chart be on a white or a black background?
What symbols/style to show SSJ, Fusion, Absorption, Transformations, etc?

MaJamie · Post by **MaJamie** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:54 pm

Alternating squiggles.
White background.
That's really all I can help you with. There are more characters in Dragon Ball Z than than there are colors.

Also, good lord. Have fun with this.

Post by **Herms** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:39 am

Ha, when that XKCD comic came out I wondered about if a similiar thing could be done for DragonBall. Good luck on this...I, uh, don't really have anything helpful to say...For character colors, exactly which characters are you planning on including? Listing them all might make it easier for people to suggest a color scheme.

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:18 am

This chart will essentially have all the characters except Elder Tsuno since he would just be lumped together with the Village which is the last of the Namekian Population. Yeah its going to be big chart. Don't forget that a lot of characters appear but never show up again so they would only be charted for the time they are visible. To give you an idea of the amount of characters I currently positioned/took notes on. From Arrival of Radditz to Android 19 and 20 showing up, there are about 60 characters. Huge chart is HUGE. I'm going to do simple lines and leave small notes behind and do the finishing touches later, probably when I'm done charting the entire Dragon Ball manga. But before I start any suggestions, gags, ideas? Like who should be what color and such, or how I should do something?

UPDATE: Looks like I will start it tomorrow. Doesn't seem that many people are interested in it. Makes me consider not doing it at all. But I remembered that this is for me as well.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:23 am

I'd love to see it.

Question: How will you handle Trunks and Mirai Trunks, plus Mirai Gohan, Bulma, Cell, etc.?

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:39 am

Thanos6 wrote:I'd love to see it.

Question: How will you handle Trunks and Mirai Trunks, plus Mirai Gohan, Bulma, Cell, etc.?

Going 100% by the manga. Should I label Future Trunks as "Future Trunks"? What should I do for Cell since there is a present one and two futures? For Cell I'm thinking, "Present Cell", "Future Cell", and "Cell" (Future #2 Cell). Does that sound good?

You were probably asking how to show the future. I'll probably have a tear effect showing that this occurs in another "dimension". Since the future is an alternative timeline really, I'll chart what happens according to where it is shown in the manga. For example, Trunks is shown defeating Cell in his timeline right after Gohan defeats Cell. So it will show going into his timeline (the tear in the page), and within this tear shows interaction between the future characters.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:51 am

Sounds fine to me. Go with either Future or Mirai, whichever you prefer.

Partially I was wondering how you would handle the things like time travel back and forth (sideways too, I guess).

Also wondering how you would deal with the parts of the timeline where Mirai is sharing a timeline with his baby counterpart.

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:10 am

Thanos6 wrote:Sounds fine to me. Go with either Future or Mirai, whichever you prefer.

Partially I was wondering how you would handle the things like time travel back and forth (sideways too, I guess).

Also wondering how you would deal with the parts of the timeline where Mirai is sharing a timeline with his baby counterpart.

Like I said there will be an effect on the page to make it seem like it were torn, and within the tear it will show interactions between the characters in the alternative timeline. The more screentime we get of this timeline the bigger the tear.

As for Future and Present Trunks sharing the same timeline. Since they aren't near each other that often especially not near each other when important things are happening, I thought it won't be too confusing to label one as Trunks and the other as Future Trunks.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:12 am

No, what I meant was, how will you chart it when Mirai or Cell uses the time machine?

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:34 am

Thanos6 wrote:No, what I meant was, how will you chart it when Mirai or Cell uses the time machine?

Here. This is a crappy thing I made real quick to show what I have in mind for showing alternate timelines. To show one person using timemachine they will move into this tear. And for events, such as killing Cell in Trunks' Timeline, there will be a bigger tear.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:35 am

Ah, now I understand. This'll be awesome when you're done. I'll help anyway I can (I have the Daizenshuu on hand if that helps any).

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:39 am

Thanos6 wrote:Ah, now I understand. This'll be awesome when you're done. I'll help anyway I can (I have the Daizenshuu on hand if that helps any).

There were a few things from the Daizenshuu that will help, but I already have them. Like the number of Namekians in each village and the World Map. But this is a case of I don't know what I want until I already have it. If you think there is anything from the Daizenshuu that will help this project, say what it might be and I'll see if I could use it as a reference. Thanks for your help thus far.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:45 am

I dunno how helpful it'll be for this project, but there's always the chart that shows the Human, Saiyan, and Namekian populations growing, shrinking, and interacting with each other.

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:49 am

Thanos6 wrote:I dunno how helpful it'll be for this project, but there's always the chart that shows the Human, Saiyan, and Namekian populations growing, shrinking, and interacting with each other.

That sounds very interesting. Is it available on the web? What would it be called?

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:56 am

Here it is:

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:07 am

That chart does help a little bit. It reminded me about the Namekian weather problem, probably going to have that now. But I don't know how big the Namkekian population was before the weather problem. I also don't know the approximate size of the Saiyan or Human population. Or when humans started popping up on Earth. The details do matter.

I found it here: http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/daizen ... 7-042.html

Are there any other sites like this one?

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:09 am

Check out that little link right near the top...

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:31 am

Probably not going to have the Saiyan population other than the named characters in the manga. So I'll need is a rough estimate of the Namekian population at its peak and Earth's general population. Also a rough time for when both populations started to exist would help, either that I'll take a slight redirection with that. I don't need to decide this now since the population part will be done in the finishing touches.

Post by **Herms** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:40 am

Khalid Shahin wrote:That chart does help a little bit. It reminded me about the Namekian weather problem, probably going to have that now.

That was about 500 years before the series begins, for the record.

I also don't know the approximate size of the Saiyan or Human population.

Well, it's not exact by any means, but Raditz says that the Saiyans had a small population to begin with, even before the "meteor impact", while Mecha Freeza says that there are quite a few Earthlings. Meanwhile, Kaio says there were only a little over 100 Namekians when Bulma and co. start planning the trip to Namek (Daizenshuu 4 gives the exact population as 109).

Or when humans started popping up on Earth. The details do matter.

Kaioshin says Boo's ball was sent to Earth when Earthlings were first learning to walk on two legs, which was 5 million years ago according to Daizenshuu 7.

Khalid Shahin · Post by **Khalid Shahin** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:52 am

109? I counted 102... 103 if you count Piccolo. I want a direct source for 109.

BTW, the 109 source isn't for my chart since the 100 estimate is more than accurate enough for my purposes. I just want to see where you got 109 from.

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