Tenshinhan from outer space?

[Armymanis]

People don't think he's an alien "because of his eye". It's because it says so in the Daizenshuu.

Sorry to switch topics, but what is Daizenshuu? Is it a book or what?

[IncompetentOverlord]

People don't think he's an alien "because of his eye". It's because it says so in the Daizenshuu.

Sorry to switch topics, but what is Daizenshuu? Is it a book or what?

The Daizenshuu are a set of ultimate guides to Dragonball. They cover the manga, anime, TV specials, movies, and everything else with the DB logo on it. They also offer a lot of information expanding on the Dragonball universe, which is where the information about Tenshinhan came from. They were never released in english, save for the fist volume which was just an art book.

[Bussani]

Sorry to switch topics, but what is Daizenshuu? Is it a book or what?

http://www.kanzentai.com/daiz.php

Could it possibly be that Tenshinhan was just a human, but born with an extra eye? Like a Birth defect? I think that's what the author was trying to do. He probably was trying to portray that even people with born defects like a third eye can do extraordinary things.

Thats my take on this situation, if your looking from a real life scenario aspect.

Probably not. For a start, I'm not sure how an extra eye would be considered a defect. Seems like it has advantages to me. </mr burns>

Also, in parts of Asia, a third eye can symbolize things such as enlightenment and higher consciousness. They're often seen on godlike beings, like Shiva from Hindu mythology.

[caejones]

It'd be nice to see a special where Tenshinan discovers his alien roots.

And then nobody cares because he's still irrelevant.

Like, he'll be trying to explain everything to Goku, and Goku will be on his way to saving the world from some random movie villain and say, "Uh, that's great, alien, really? Good for you, Tenshinhan... has anyone seen my senzu pouch?

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Neah, yeah, it seems like a somewhat ridiculous piece of information that came up when Toriyama was in a sciFi mood that could be rejected easily enough. Then I came up with that horribly contrived backstory tying Freeza, Tenshinhan, Buu, Garlic Jr and Bojak together, and I guess wound up accepting it because my crazy fan idea called for it.

[Armymanis]

Sorry to switch topics, but what is Daizenshuu? Is it a book or what?

http://www.kanzentai.com/daiz.php

Could it possibly be that Tenshinhan was just a human, but born with an extra eye? Like a Birth defect? I think that's what the author was trying to do. He probably was trying to portray that even people with born defects like a third eye can do extraordinary things.

Thats my take on this situation, if your looking from a real life scenario aspect.

Probably not. For a start, I'm not sure how an extra eye would be considered a defect. Seems like it has advantages to me. </mr burns>

Also, in parts of Asia, a third eye can symbolize things such as enlightenment and higher consciousness. They're often seen on godlike beings, like Shiva from Hindu mythology.

are they in English or Japanese? I can only read English, and don't have time to read Japanese.

[Bussani]

are they in English or Japanese? I can only read English, and don't have time to read Japanese.

They're in Japanese, but that link I posted has the Kanzentai.com boys' translations for some/parts of them.

Herms' Guide Guide has a lot of information translated from the Daizenshuu and other guides, too. Or rather, it's a collection of guides he's done.

[Herms]

They're in Japanese, but that link I posted has the Kanzentai.com boys' translations for some/parts of them.

In particular, this page is a translation of the section from Daizenshuu 4 that talks about Tenshinhan’s alien ancestry (way down in the Earthling section):

Tenshinhan uses techniques that are impossible to think of being those of an Earthling, such as growing arms from his back or splitting into four people. It's a small wonder then that Tenshinhan is a descendent of the Three-Eyed people, themselves the posterity of aliens, and that he has a unique physical composition as a throwback to his ancestors.

Note that it still lists Tenshinhan with the Earthlings, despite talking about his alien ancestry. So apparently it's fairly remote ancestry.

[Thanos6]

I love how, out of all the crazy things that various humans did in Dragonball, it's the four arms and split-bodies that's chosen as "impossible for pure humans."

[Piccolo Daimao]

The Daizenshuu states that Tenshinhan is a member of the Three-Eyed Race. However, remember that, in terms of canonity, the Daizenshuu is only second to the manga.

It's all up to speculation whether or not Tenshinhan is an alien or not. Some believe that he is an alien because of his special attributes and abilities--the third eye, the ability to grow arms and duplicate himself. But if that's so, shouldn't this be the case for the other humans who we've seen display strange characteristics or powers?
I mean, Kuririn has no nose. Chaozu looks like a doll and never grows throughout the series. Kame-Sen'nin is 354 years old by the end of Z. Nothing is speculated about them being aliens.

At the end of the day, it's up to you whether Tenshinhan is an alien or not. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Until Toriyama gives us an answer, we shall never know.

[IncompetentOverlord]

The Daizenshuu states that Tenshinhan is a member of the Three-Eyed Race. However, remember that, in terms of canonity, the Daizenshuu is only second to the manga.

It's all up to speculation whether or not Tenshinhan is an alien or not. Some believe that he is an alien because of his special attributes and abilities--the third eye, the ability to grow arms and duplicate himself. But if that's so, shouldn't this be the case for the other humans who we've seen display strange characteristics or powers?
I mean, Kuririn has no nose. Chaozu looks like a doll and never grows throughout the series. Kame-Sen'nin is 354 years old by the end of Z. Nothing is speculated about them being aliens.

At the end of the day, it's up to you whether Tenshinhan is an alien or not. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Until Toriyama gives us an answer, we shall never know.

Theory:(In case you were wondering, this is your cue to ignore my senseless babbling and read something more on topic.)

Well, I believe that Chaozu is the reincarnation of the devil(not Devilman, I mean the ruler of DB hell), who has special attributes because of his previous life. Kame Sennin was granted nigh eternal life because he sold his soul to said devil, only to have a young braveheart take it back for him. Unfortunately, the young man lost first his nose, then his life in his battle with the devil, but managed to bring his enemy down with him. A few years later, a little boy without a nose showed up at a Tiger monk sanctuary. He is the reincarnation of the brave warrior who slayed the devil. His lack of a nose is Enma's secret sign to kame sennin of the boy's true identity. As you have probably guessed, that boy's name was Kuririn.

Kame Sennin and Enma are the only ones who know the true story, and they will take it with them until the day they die. Which will probably be never .

And that,fellow daizexers, is the biggest pack of lies and pointless speculation that you will read today.

[verto]

I remember reading/hearing that Tien's thrid eye was because of deep meditation. Where was this from? I believed it for YEARS. Was it a dubbism? Was it said in a character bio from one of the old games?

[Herms]

I remember reading/hearing that Tenshinhan's thrid eye was because of deep meditation. Where was this from? I believed it for YEARS. Was it a dubbism? Was it said in a character bio from one of the old games?

Well, that's more or less the sort of meaning third eyes have in religion. And I think Toriyama talked about the religious signifigance of the third eye in one of his interviews in Viz's Shonen Jump.

[verto]

I was subscribed to SJ for years so that was probably it. Thank you sire.

[caejones]

I mean, Kuririn has no nose.

PLASTIC SURGERY AND A SWORD~! XD
Or Senbei Norimaki's response to someone noticing Arale's lack of a nose:
"Neither do you! This is a manga! Do you really expect the author to take the time to draw them?"

Chaozu looks like a doll and never grows throughout the series.

Kyonshi? Hormonal defect? A living doll? Descendant of some iconic Asian-style emperor-thing? The immortal of civilization?

Kame-Sen'nin is 354 years old by the end of Z.

Well, he is a Sen'nin, after all.

Nothing is speculated about them being aliens.

Yeah, just Asian. ^_^.
I think ALIENCHILD! Tenshinhan is a result of him being a fighter into the Z-era. .

[Big Momma]

I wasn't saying that.
I was saying Tenshinhan himself shouldn't have thought he was a human because of his extra eye. But that doesn't really make sense considering it is a world with talking animals, people without noses, etc..

Doesn't make him any less weird. Even with all that stuff going on, I'd still be a little freaked if I had a third eye.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

I remember reading/hearing that Tenshinhan's thrid eye was because of deep meditation. Where was this from? I believed it for YEARS. Was it a dubbism? Was it said in a character bio from one of the old games?

Well, that's more or less the sort of meaning third eyes have in religion. And I think Toriyama talked about the religious signifigance of the third eye in one of his interviews in Viz's Shonen Jump.

Yeah, it was in issue 1.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I remember reading/hearing that Tenshinhan's thrid eye was because of deep meditation. Where was this from? I believed it for YEARS. Was it a dubbism? Was it said in a character bio from one of the old games?

Well, that's more or less the sort of meaning third eyes have in religion. And I think Toriyama talked about the religious signifigance of the third eye in one of his interviews in Viz's Shonen Jump.

It was also mentioned in Tenshinhan's scouter data in Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy Of Goku II.

[D]

I always assumed it was related to his ability to grow extra arms... So he "grew" the extra eye to have an advantage in combat, just a permanent one. (Which would be okay, since having an extra eye doesn't make him look as freakish as having 4 arms.) Both abilities would then come from extreme mental control over one's own body.

[Gaffer Tape]

Ugh, I always hated that Daizenshuu "explanation" that Tenshinhan was from alien ancestry. He was perfectly fine as an earthling. It's just one more example of the sci-fi mentality bleeding over into the fantasy. Like has been said, there are all kinds of bizarre earthlings in the series. I'm just waiting for the guidebook that comes out and says that Oolong is descended from the "Panty-Loving Bacon People" of the planet Pantsuani 5!

[mAcChaos]

I believe Tenshinhan is just a human. The alien heritage is probably just some left over brainstorming that never got developed into anything.