Is the DBZ fighting game franchise a dying breed?

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Re: Is the DBZ fighting game franchise a dying breed?

Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:15 pm

If a DBZ hybrid game were to ever come out, it should either be DBZ Vs. Bleach, or DBZ Vs. Naruto. The Kamehame-ha against the Rasengan.

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Post by Captain-Sora » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:24 pm

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:If a DBZ hybrid game were to ever come out, it should either be DBZ Vs. Bleach, or DBZ Vs. Naruto. The Kamehame-ha against the Rasengan.
We'd sooner see a DBZ and One Piece crossover fighting game before those two get any shots. Then again, Battle Stadium D.O.N(Dragonball, One Piece, Naruto) was kind of disappointing. I'd rather want another Jump! game sequel.

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Re: Is the DBZ fighting game franchise a dying breed?

Post by Rocketman » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:08 pm

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:If a DBZ hybrid game were to ever come out, it should either be DBZ Vs. Bleach, or DBZ Vs. Naruto. The Kamehame-ha against the Rasengan.
And then we can match the M1 Abrams against a Volkswagen Beetle. Or the Mighty Thor vs Mr. Meowz the Paraplegic Kitten. Or the Sun vs an ant.

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Re: Is the DBZ fighting game franchise a dying breed?

Post by Ultimate_DB_Fan » Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:46 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:If a DBZ hybrid game were to ever come out, it should either be DBZ Vs. Bleach, or DBZ Vs. Naruto. The Kamehame-ha against the Rasengan.
And then we can match the M1 Abrams against a Volkswagen Beetle. Or the Mighty Thor vs Mr. Meowz the Paraplegic Kitten. Or the Sun vs an ant.
I'm sorry, but what?

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Post by Kaboom » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:50 am

Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:I'm sorry, but what?
Game-mechanics aside, he's relating just how extremely one-sided a matchup between the DragonBall universe and the Naruto universe would be.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:28 am

In Marvel vs. Capcom you have Megaman beating Thanos, and the last time I check the blue bomber was not a casual solar system buster? In crossover battles, things are always at equal levels to make things fun.
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Post by Raki » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:38 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:I'm sorry, but what?
Game-mechanics aside, he's relating just how extremely one-sided a matchup between the DragonBall universe and the Naruto universe would be.
There are few techniques in the Naruto Universe that could stand up to Dragonball ones.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.

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Re: Is the DBZ fighting game franchise a dying breed?

Post by NECPS » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:06 pm

I don't care if it is the first or second wave of games,
all they did was always mostly the same. Rushed job.


If the sells are fading is because of this.
Because there is no character creation or stuffs the
fans wants and waits for.

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Post by Rocketman » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:02 pm

NECPS wrote:I don't care if it is the first or second wave of games,
all they did was always mostly the same. Rushed job.


If the sells are fading is because of this.
Because there is no character creation or stuffs the
fans wants and waits for.
I stand against DBZ create-a-character. I always have and I always will.

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Post by IncompetentOverlord » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:16 pm

Dragonball create-a-character is a great idea, in theory. But, really, you have to think about who we're giving this power to. Outside of this site, the average DB fan is the kind of person you see posting comments on youtube. These are petty, fickle people who will not hesitate to cuss you out if you happen to dislike their Broli recolor. In the Star Wars or Gundam fanbase, I'd be all for it, but in this cesspool of a fandom... sorry, but no dice.

Of course, I'm an elitist bastard who wishes everyone on the internet would drop l33t forever, so this is probably the right message coming from the wrong person.
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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:52 pm

If you're talking about it overlord, I would like to see Gundam vs Macross
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:26 pm

I'm going to say the same thing I said about create-a-character in another thread. Only better I think lol.

If the degenerate fanboys bug you that much... then don't play online. Simple. If I had a PS3 or 360, I would rarely take it online, if ever at all. Sure that's just me, but I'm sure others can take a break from this online thing for one game. Or if you still need to play online, for some ungodly reason, maybe organize get-togethers on Daizex or something?
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Post by Rocketman » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:41 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:If the degenerate fanboys bug you that much... then don't play online. Simple.
I wouldn't give somebody crayons if they're just going to shove them up their nose.

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Post by Maphisto86 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:29 am

Rocketman wrote:
nathantheguitarist wrote:If the degenerate fanboys bug you that much... then don't play online. Simple.
I wouldn't give somebody crayons if they're just going to shove them up their nose.
What a lousy parent you would be! ; )

Well ignorant fanboys and button mashers aside, I think online gameplay could potentially reinvigorate the Dragonball fighting game genre. As long as games will be made using the Dragonball franchise it makes sense that their would be ones of the fighting genre. It is possible to make an old trope interesting again, it just depends on how you do it. By focusing on the online play aspect (as Bandai and Spike have already) I think game companies can make the games more interesting. If only there where a way to include the single player, story mode into it.

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Post by Kiyza » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:46 pm

Part of me hopes so. I'd like to see more original things like Saiyajin Raishuu and Tenkaichi Daibouken. (Even though I heard the latter wasn't that great) I need something that I haven't seen before to keep me interested as a gamer.

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Re: Is the DBZ fighting game franchise a dying breed?

Post by Kendamu » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:23 pm

I think the problem with the fighting games is that for the last several years they were putting out one per year. I could understand if, right now, they came up with a new engine and a new DBZ fighting game on PS3 and 360 for full price and then every year maybe they'd come out with a lower-priced "expansion disc" of sorts where more stories, characters, moves, engine tweaks, and whatnot would be added if you wanted them. It would give developers an entire year to work on just the new stuff and building on a great base that was given to us from the very beginning.

That, or they can just keep giving us the same crap but put a new story to it in the DBO era. That would be kind of nice. Especially if they had portable versions, too (like how Tekken 6 is on PS3 and PSP).

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Post by jordand » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:59 am

I think a new, well thought out story mode would definitely be something to revive my interest in the games. I personally think things started going sour after Budokai 3; which is when I stopped buying the games ( still rented them:P). However, If they could somehow get Toriyama to come up with a new story and some new villains and characters; then I think that would be a game worth having and really bring something to the table. That's why I am hoping DBO makes it stateside.

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Post by Adamant » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:12 am

Rocketman wrote:
Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:If a DBZ hybrid game were to ever come out, it should either be DBZ Vs. Bleach, or DBZ Vs. Naruto. The Kamehame-ha against the Rasengan.
And then we can match the M1 Abrams against a Volkswagen Beetle. Or the Mighty Thor vs Mr. Meowz the Paraplegic Kitten. Or the Sun vs an ant.
Well, we CAN already match Vegetto against General Blue.
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Post by Neon Z » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:20 pm

I think the downturn commercially mainly comes from a total misreading of the market by Bandai.

Like some posters who have already left some messages here think, Bandai thought that the DBZ fans would eat up anything as long as it was new. So, to leave space for sequels again, they reduced the cast size, focusing on less characters and stages than their predecessors, believing that it would have no negative effect because the fans would accept anything... but, it didn't work out at all.

Even if the tastes of the generic fan aren't the best ones for the quality of the games, it's pretty obvious that they didn't accept new games missing features from their predecessors, in spite of the new features of these games. Rather than sales recovering with the generation transition, like usually happens, they just fell even more quickly than before (Raging Blast sold worse than any game in the Tenkaichi or Budokai series).

Now, at this point, I don't know what will happen. They might attempt Burst Limit and/or Raging Blast sequels, but it's pretty much too late to recover those lost sales, unless they're willing to revamp the games yet again.

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Post by Rory » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:25 pm

Dying breed? I don't think so, I'm not bored of it anyway. Burst Limit sold pretty damn well. Raging Blast didn't, but that's because people would be shit before it was released.
Pretty simple when you think about it.

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