Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

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Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by mystic trunks » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:29 pm

Can someone please explain the difference between these two separate releases to me? I read the long-winded explaination on the site, but it still is not clear what the difference is. I would appreciate it if someone could explain it.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Greenman » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:56 pm

"Remastered":
Cropped into widescreen, resulting in some (I believe about 20%) of the picture missing. Includes English voices w/ Japanese music, English voices w/ television broadcast music, and original Japanese track. The "remastering" resulted in messed up colors and slightly blurred picture. Despite the remastering, some damage to the frames (even a case of tearing) was kept in.

US Dragon Box:
Not cropped so it's in the original fullscreen format. Includes original Japanese track and English voices w/ Japanese music. Actual frame by frame remastering. It has more accurate colors and damage to the frames have been repaired.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by ssjcj » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:05 pm

The basic differences between the two are as follows:

1) The remastered sets are in 16:9 (the top and bottom of the picture have been cut off) whereas the Dragonbox is in 4:3.

2) The colors are slightly different.

3) The Dragonbox remastering was used with earlier masters compared to the FUNimation release and therefore the Dragonbox is more like the show 'the way it was meant to be seen'.

4) The dub music is missing on the Dragonbox.

I'd suggest listening to the review of it on the podcast and draw your own conclusions. The size of the differences in the video are subjective, in the sense that some people will see a bigger difference than others.
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by mystic trunks » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:45 pm

Thank you guys for responding. I'm curious to know why they continued to release the remastered sets if they knew the colors were messed up and it was blurry. I will probably get the Remastered anyway since it has more audio options and it is already released in its entirety.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Greenman » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:26 pm

mystic trunks wrote:Thank you guys for responding. I'm curious to know why they continued to release the remastered sets if they knew the colors were messed up and it was blurry. I will probably get the Remastered anyway since it has more audio options and it is already released in its entirety.
Because the majority of people didn't seem to care (and probably never even noticed it). If you don't mind the look of the season sets and want that dub music option then go for it.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:30 am

mystic trunks wrote:Thank you guys for responding. I'm curious to know why they continued to release the remastered sets if they knew the colors were messed up and it was blurry. I will probably get the Remastered anyway since it has more audio options and it is already released in its entirety.
Because it's really not as bad as your average Daizexer would have you believe.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:59 am

Innagadadavida wrote:Because it's really not as bad as your average Daizexer would have you believe.
Save for Season Two...
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:14 am

I watched Seasons 1-3 in remastered. They were God-awful, with the ripping in the footage, Nappa foaming at the mouth, SSJ Goku missing his outline, and Roshi losing his hat in the opening due to the cropping.

I bought Season 6 because I (foolishly) thought I was going to buy the entire series this way. Didn't watch it, as I already had the Cell Games in single disc, full-screen format as put out by Funi a few years earlier. I did watch Seasons 7-9, because I didn't have any of those episodes in the Funi single disc format (save for the Kid Buu arc) and they looked pretty damn good. Not nearly as many problems that the first 3 had, they looked crisp and clean, minus the widescreen, but I got used to it.

So if you don't mind a few flaws, widescreen, the Funimation music, and a few colors changed here and there, you'd be pretty satisfied.

I myself are going to (somehow) sell all my remastered sets once I get all the Dragonboxes. :twisted: I would burn them, but since they are good in some parts, it'll at least make one dub fan happy. :mrgreen:
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by mystic trunks » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:07 pm

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:I watched Seasons 1-3 in remastered. They were God-awful, with the ripping in the footage, Nappa foaming at the mouth, SSJ Goku missing his outline, and Roshi losing his hat in the opening due to the cropping.
Somehow, I think I will manage despite these mind-blowing travesties.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by The Time Traveller » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:01 pm

The Dragon Box also features the correct ending credits for each episode and next episode previews, a nice little extra for completionists.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by ThunderPX » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:09 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:The Dragon Box also features the correct ending credits for each episode and next episode previews, a nice little extra for completionists.
Not that most people here can read the credits. :P
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by johnboy1 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:01 pm

I know you pretty much have the information you need, but the long and short of it is this: the only thing the Remastered sets have that the Dragon Box doesn't is English audio with the dub soundtrack. The massive improvements to the picture and the next-episode previews should more than make up for that. Take my advice: go for the Dragon Box.
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:31 pm

ThunderPX wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:The Dragon Box also features the correct ending credits for each episode and next episode previews, a nice little extra for completionists.
Not that most people here can read the credits. :P
Another reason I love the Dragon Box because it's expanded on my viewing/fandom. After watching so many episodes with credits, I have managed to teach myself to read the cast lists at the end of every episode. It's quite interesting to see the order in which they choose to bill the characters, which characters they bill at all, etc.
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by russ869 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:53 pm

Yeah, you can learn to recognize the kanji for certain actors of staffpersons' names after a while. The character names are pretty simple to read because a lot of them are katakana (Cell, Bulma, Freeza, etc...).

This is only if you actually care about names and ideas behind who makes your favorite anime of course (which none of my anime-watching friends do). As usual, If you can't name more than 2-3 anime directors or voice actors, that probably puts you in the camp that couldn't care less (which unfortunately is most people).

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by SSJmole » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:04 pm

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:I myself are going to (somehow) sell all my remastered sets once I get all the Dragonboxes. :twisted: I would burn them, but since they are good in some parts, it'll at least make one dub fan happy. :mrgreen:
Do you have paypal and would you ship to uk? If so unless I have them by then I'd buy them off you.

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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Hujio » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:39 pm

ThunderPX wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:The Dragon Box also features the correct ending credits for each episode and next episode previews, a nice little extra for completionists.
Not that most people here can read the credits. :P
There's this site I know, with a completely insane guy who translates all the credits. He's even crazy enough to make pages for each episode, with all their credits translated right there on the page. But no matter how crazy he seems, he's a pretty cool guy. :P
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by MajinVejitaXV » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:47 pm

Hujio wrote:
ThunderPX wrote:
The Time Traveller wrote:The Dragon Box also features the correct ending credits for each episode and next episode previews, a nice little extra for completionists.
Not that most people here can read the credits. :P
There's this site I know, with a completely insane guy who translates all the credits. He's even crazy enough to make pages for each episode, with all their credits translated right there on the page. But no matter how crazy he seems, he's a pretty cool guy. :P
Kanzentai is a pretty cool guy. He translates moon language and doesn't afraid of anything. ;p
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:59 pm

This "Kanzentai" guy translates the moon language? Does this mean he's a rabbit? Does he make mochi? Can he transform into a teenaged superhero in a skimpy sailor fuku? Hmm, maybe I'm taking this too far...
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by MajinVejitaXV » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:05 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Can he transform into a teenaged superhero in a skimpy sailor fuku?
Dear God, I hope not. O_O;;;
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Re: Difference between Remastered and Dragonbox

Post by Hujio » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:58 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Can he transform into a teenaged superhero in a skimpy sailor fuku?
Dear God, I hope not. O_O;;;
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