FUNimation Announces "Kai" License ("DBZ Kai")

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Re: FUNimation Announces "Kai" License ("DBZ Kai")

Post by Travis Touchdown » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:24 am

I hope they keep the dub cast. But that's just me. I finished growing up through high school with the dub cast. I grew to really like them over time.
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Post by Kendamu » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:20 am

All current news points to the idea that the majority of the FUNimation cast.

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Post by GohanRez » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:19 pm

At first I didn’t think much of Dragonball Kai to be honest, but as the episodes keep airing, I feel as if I’m once again being submerged into the Dragonball world. I haven’t felt like that since I was 14 years of age.

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:47 pm

Our friends at RightStuf Now have their listings up for pre-order.

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Post by ShadowDude112 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:57 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Our friends at RightStuf Now have their listings up for pre-order.

Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 DVD Part 1 (Hyb)
Dragon Ball Z Kai Season 1 Blu-ray Part 1 (Hyb)
I'm probably going to try to order this on Blu-ray and DBox 3 when a sale happens if I have enough money and if I do I'll both have them as a separate order. If I can't get both I'll just get DBox 3 when that goes up.
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Re: FUNimation Announces "Kai" License ("DBZ Kai")

Post by MCDaveG » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:22 am

It's always funny, how there is huge discussion over one sentence, saying that Kai will be in US and nothing more extra :lol:
It can be applied on other topics of this nature. I'm really curious about the new dub tough.
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:49 pm

Funimation still failing to understand what the term "season" means regarding television programs.
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Post by TheMajinRedComet » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:08 pm

It is more or less what the public is use to, so it is best not to change it.
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penguintruth wrote:Funimation still failing to understand what the term "season" means regarding television programs.
I wish Japan understood what the term "season" meant. Filler would be a thing of the past.
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:53 pm

TheMajinRedComet wrote:It is more or less what the public is use to, so it is best not to change it.
Yeah, why change something just because it's wrong?
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:07 pm

penguintruth wrote:
TheMajinRedComet wrote:It is more or less what the public is use to, so it is best not to change it.
Yeah, why change something just because it's wrong?
Because they're a business and it's smarter to just stick with the status-quo as far as business goes?
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Re: FUNimation Announces "Kai" License ("DBZ Kai")

Post by penguintruth » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:54 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
penguintruth wrote:
TheMajinRedComet wrote:It is more or less what the public is use to, so it is best not to change it.
Yeah, why change something just because it's wrong?
Because they're a business and it's smarter to just stick with the status-quo as far as business goes?
Because "volume" is so confusing, unlike "season" which frankly, sounds much more confusing, given it's not aired on television in North America at all?
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.


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Re: FUNimation Announces "Kai" License ("DBZ Kai")

Post by Big Momma » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:33 am

penguintruth wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
penguintruth wrote: Yeah, why change something just because it's wrong?
Because they're a business and it's smarter to just stick with the status-quo as far as business goes?
Because "volume" is so confusing, unlike "season" which frankly, sounds much more confusing, given it's not aired on television in North America at all?

It's really not a big deal at all.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:09 am

Big Momma wrote:It's really not a big deal at all.
Nothing we talk about on this forum is a "big deal". At all.

If you qualify any statement that you don't take interest in with that... how is anyone expected to have a conversation and voice opinions?
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Post by Hujio » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:13 am

Big Momma wrote:It's really not a big deal at all.
It really isn't a big deal, but it's really annoying. When you see something as a season, you expect that it ran in some sort of a seasonal format on television. Japan doesn't have seasons for TV programs like the U.S. does. And you can't really say that FUNimation is just sticking to the norm, because the norm they're following is just their own. No other companies really do this as far as I know. I hate how they organize One Piece, by so many "Voyages" per "Season". How many voyages do the Straw Hat Pirates take in one season anyway? Apparently they love going on voyages...

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JOE: "Yeah dude, he was their on the Fourth Voyage too."
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BOB: "But it says so on the box!"
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Now, like every other country has figured out, using "Volume" is just simple. No one gets confused, and it's easy to keep track of. It isn't very convenient to tell someone to go look up episode 3 of Kai on disc 1 of Season 1, Part 1. I understand how they originally did it by arc (or saga), because it's easy to associate the Namek saga with, Planet Namek, of course. Now, season 4 of DragonBall Z on the other hand, I haven't a clue when that happened. How many episodes are in a season? 26, right? How many are the orange bricks divide into? Varying numbers of episodes per season. Anyway, I think you get the point. Without memorizing it, you basically have to do math to figure out where the fuck you are in the series. It's annoying!

On top of that, it makes it really hard to have discussions between dub and subs fans. A sub fan will say something about the Cell arc, and a dub fan knows when that was. But if a dub fan suddenly pops into a chat, or onto a message board, and says "Don't you guys love season 5 of DBZ?" Most people, unless they've memorized the seasons, have no idea when the Hell that is. It just makes things overly complicated, hard to deal with, and just completely annoying. And for the orange bricks it's even more annoying since from a dub standpoint, they did actually have seasons. But the seasons they used for the DVD releases don't even match up with those at all. It just makes no sense at all. They're pointless and confusing!
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Post by DemonRin » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:58 am

Hujio wrote:
Big Momma wrote:It's really not a big deal at all.
It really isn't a big deal, but it's really annoying. When you see something as a season, you expect that it ran in some sort of a seasonal format on television. Japan doesn't have seasons for TV programs like the U.S. does. And you can't really say that FUNimation is just sticking to the norm, because the norm they're following is just their own. No other companies really do this as far as I know. I hate how they organize One Piece, by so many "Voyages" per "Season". How many voyages do the Straw Hat Pirates take in one season anyway? Apparently they love going on voyages...
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Toei did the same thing with the Japanese One Piece DVDs (Not the Voyages, the Seasons)
Season 1 is East Blue, Season 2 is the "Entering the Grand Line" Chapter, Season 3 is "Enter Chopper on the Winter Island", Season 4 is Alabasta, Season 5 is filler, Season 6 is Skypiea, Season 7 is The Davy Back Fight, Season 8 is Water Seven, Season 9 is Enies Lobby, Season 10 is Thriller Bark, Season 11 is Sabaody, Season 12 is Amazon Lilly, and Season 13 is Impel Down.
FUNimation's Seasons seem to be going by the Sagas, Season 1 is East Blue, Season 2 is Baroque Works, Season 3 is Skypiea, and Season four is either going to be CP9, or just Water 7 with Enies Lobby being Season 5. etc. etc. It matches up to the US Broadcast Seasons (The first two being 4kids' seasons, Season 3 being where they picked it up) so it makes sense, and starting with Season 5 they'll be making up their own season designations to fall in line, but "Voyages" was just a thing they made up, which might annoy some, but I've never heard of anyone else being annoyed by it.

Now, how this ties into Kai... well, its just their way! They do it by Seasons because I guess that's how Americans see TV series stuff. They probably feel it would look funny for a consumer to be in a store looking at "The Simpsons Season 7" "Scrubs Season 6" etc, and then have one randomly be "Volume", but I have no Idea.

Now, speaking of the Kai Dub, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood just aired dubbed for the first time, and something happened there that made me hopeful. In the original Dub they translated this place as "Ishbal". That's what the dub used and what the dubbies were used to. Now we know "Ishval" is really how it should be. And in the new FMA:B dub, they changed it! It shows a willingness on their part to change established dub terminology to be more accurate in their redub!
It has me more hopeful of a "Son Goku" or a "Tenshinhan" or a "Kaio" being used in the new dub!
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Post by UristtheGreat » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:20 am

I don't really mind them just calling him Goku. Son should be used but not every time they refer to him.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:29 am

UristtheGreat wrote:I don't really mind them just calling him Goku. Son should be used but not every time they refer to him.
It should be there every time the Japanese script has it written in the dialogue, however...
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Post by DemonRin » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:30 am

UristtheGreat wrote:I don't really mind them just calling him Goku. Son should be used but not every time they refer to him.
It isn't in the Japanese version either, its only used when someone refers to his full name, most times people just say "Goku" except occasionally when Bulma or Piccolo will call him "Son" or "Son-kun".

They should keep whatever the Japanese person is calling him at the time. For example, Piccolo. Part of Piccolo's character is that, at first he doesn't call him Son, or Goku. Watch the Raditz fight, he pretty much makes sure to say "Son Goku" fully every time. Sort of like "Your friends are familiar with you, so they call you 'Goku' or 'Son'. I'm not, we're enemies, so I'm going to formally address you as 'Son Goku' always."
I like that, I think the dub should make sure to keep it. But in Burst Limit, they pronounced "Son" wrong, someone needs to come in and just teach them how to pronounce a few of the Japanese words. Like "Kaioken" and "Son", then it'll be perfect.

I believe at some point, Chris Sabat said they were going to treat the new dub with more care, at least to the script. So I think you dubbies need to realize that, even if they don't change any voices, to an extent the series is going to be different than you remember.
Also, if they recast Freeza, and North Kaio, and Sabat's minor roles, then that'd be swell, but even if they don't, I hope they at least direct them to portray the character differently. Who knows, Maybe Linda Young will be able to pull off Freeza with proper direction. But I don't want any more Superhero Son Goku, I don't want Vegeta to EVER ask Son to join him, and I don't want Freeza to make any homoerotic comments.
I wont be entirely happy if Freeza isn't recast, but I'd be happy if they at least got that much right.
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Post by TripleRach » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:31 am

TheMajinRedComet wrote:It is more or less what the public is use to, so it is best not to change it.
The public has been buying up Family Guy in "volumes" instead of "seasons" just fine.
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