Piccolo's line concerning Kaioshin

[Bussani]

It is a bit odd, if you think about it. Obviously Gohan was far beyond Piccolo after his training in the Room of Spirit and Time, and Piccolo didn't even catch up after another year of training. This line says that Kaioshin is far stronger than Piccolo. We've also been told that no Kaioshin could pull the Zeta Sword out, but Gohan did it at SSJ. Shouldn't this mean that Kaioshin was weaker than Gohan? Not only that, but he was the weakest of the Kaioshin, so wouldn't he have to be quite a bit weaker than Gohan to leave room for the other Kaioshin who could move the sword (assuming they all tried)? Not to mention this is the Gohan that had been slacking for 7 years. Had the gap between Piccolo and Gohan really become this huge?

I have no real opinion here. Just thinking out loud.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Daizenshuu Translation

Yep that seems right, Kaiohshin really was stronger than Piccolo after all.

[Piccolo Daimao]

The "original and Japanese versions"? How does that work?

He says "Chigai-sugiru…jigen ga…"/"Our dimensions...are too different". It's the same thing Tenshinhan says when he sees Super Saiyan Goku.

I meant "the original Japanese & Viz versions". Thanks for contributing the line, though!

And yeah, I do think it depends on how you interpret the line. Personally, I think that it's relating to strength, and that seems to the most common opinion. But if people want to take it as Piccolo thinking that because of Kaiôshin's higher god rank, then that's their personal judgement.

[Godo]

Daizenshuu Translation

Yep that seems right, Kaiohshin really was stronger than Piccolo after all.

Or we can just assume that the individual, a human like the rest of us, made his own interpretation of the line.
With Toriyama's memory, I doubt that he proof checked everything. That would be wishful thinking.

[Savage68]

I didn't assume he did proof anything in the first place. I don't care.

The problem with making baseless personal interpretations is that we already have a definitive answer. If it can be refuted, whatever goes. But it can't, so...random fan's personal interpretation means little next to nothing.

[Godo]

I didn't assume he did proof anything in the first place. I don't care.

The problem with making baseless personal interpretations is that we already have a definitive answer. If it can be refuted, whatever goes. But it can't, so...random fan's personal interpretation means little next to nothing.

On the contrary, a fan's interpretation weighs higher!
You seem to be one of those that have forgotten to who the story was written, and why.
It was written for the fans! For our imagination!

It was never meant to be dissected as thorougly as we do it, but even if we do it, we have to take into consideration the manga and our interpretation first, because of what you are doing, is taking a certain individual's view, and making it your own. Without a second thought. Since "you don't care". And you think that your "facts" should weigh higher than other fans' observations and opinions derived from the actual source? Pfft, allow me to chuckle.

Sure, some information in those books are interesting, but since I still enjoy reading the manga, I won't let anything to come and destroy my first view of it. Which is the kind of way the mangaka want them to be experienced.
The Dragonball universe makes perfect sense for me without them, and my own "opinions" too.
So whatever some random Japanese guy wrote, it doesn't matter, since Dragonball is the manga I read, and I have imagination and information enough to not rely on guidebooks like a mindless drone.

[Savage68]

*plugs ears and says 'la-la-la-la'*

See, I bet you couldn't even tell the difference between myself and you.

But yeah, your personal interpretation is cool as long as you don't try to purport it weighing over 'some random Japanese guy'.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I didn't assume he did proof anything in the first place. I don't care.

The problem with making baseless personal interpretations is that we already have a definitive answer. If it can be refuted, whatever goes. But it can't, so...random fan's personal interpretation means little next to nothing.

On the contrary, a fan's interpretation weighs higher!
You seem to be one of those that have forgotten to who the story was written, and why.
It was written for the fans! For our imagination!

It was never meant to be dissected as thorougly as we do it, but even if we do it, we have to take into consideration the manga and our interpretation first, because of what you are doing, is taking a certain individual's view, and making it your own. Without a second thought. Since "you don't care". And you think that your "facts" should weigh higher than other fans' observations and opinions derived from the actual source? Pfft, allow me to chuckle.

Sure, some information in those books are interesting, but since I still enjoy reading the manga, I won't let anything to come and destroy my first view of it. Which is the kind of way the mangaka want them to be experienced.
The Dragonball universe makes perfect sense for me without them, and my own "opinions" too.
So whatever some random Japanese guy wrote, it doesn't matter, since Dragonball is the manga I read, and I have imagination and information enough to not rely on guidebooks like a mindless drone.

You sir, are a truly wise man for saying that.

[temujin]

I didn't assume he did proof anything in the first place. I don't care.

The problem with making baseless personal interpretations is that we already have a definitive answer. If it can be refuted, whatever goes. But it can't, so...random fan's personal interpretation means little next to nothing.

Perfect!