A little quick question I was always thinking about

[skatezeppelin]

How did Goku learn to fly? In pioneers dub of the first few sagas there was no mention.

[Pedro The Hutt]

During Kami's training, unless I'm terribly mistaken. ^.^;;

[tealsmith]

During Kami's training, unless I'm terribly mistaken. ^.^;;

That's the general assumption, although we never actually see him use it until his fight against Piccolo Jr. for the winning attack, so it's also possible that he just learned it in the middle of that battle. I mean, he learned the Kamahamaha after seeing Roshi use it once, it's entirely plausible that after seeing so many other people use the technique, he just picked up on it naturally.

[Gamingdevil]

Then how did Gohan learn to fly/shoot Ki-blasts, I mean he does it naturally when his latent power awakens, but when did he actually learn to control it?

[Ash]

In the anime you can see him fire a ki blast on a log of wood to cook his dino-tail-steak IRRC, guess he learned it by himself while surviving in the wild.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Piccolo taught him to use ki, and even taught him the Masenkô.

[askani son]

The masenko is one of my favourite techniques .
I always thought that was something Gohan taught himself because he needed to defend himself in the wild (like Piccolo intended).

[Gamingdevil]

yes, piccolo thaught him how to use ki, but that was after 6 months in the wild, but like Ash said, he already used some energy to cook meals or something.

[SpaceKappa]

That brings up the question: Are ki beams heat beams or force beams? I would think force beams, since a lot of the time when people get shot through (Trunks, Piccolo, etc) they don't burn, they just get a hole punched through them. Aren't most of the Gohan survival scenes filler?

Well, I guess they could cauterize the wounds like a lightsaber or something if they were heat beams. I don't know.

[askani son]

Most of the Gohan scenes are filler. In the manga, the most you see is him cutting off the dinosaurs tail and running away from it ( aswell as being shouted at by piccolo and crying).He goes Oozaru aswell.

In relation to beams - I think they are a bit of both. Force and heat. When a character is hit with one some of their clothes may get ripped and torn and look a little singed. Also the beams can be forced back like a solid object.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

The masenko is one of my favourite techniques .
I always thought that was something Gohan taught himself because he needed to defend himself in the wild (like Piccolo intended).

But the "Ma" in Masenkô means demon (I believe it means the Demon Flash).
Why would Gohan name his own attack after a demon?

[B-kun]

I'm not sure if askani_son meant this or not, but in the manga, we DO see Gohan using a ki blast to burn the wood. That's not filler.

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

I'm not sure if askani_son meant this or not, but in the manga, we DO see Gohan using a ki blast to burn the wood. That's not filler.

Correct.

[askani son]

Yeah I remembered the ki blast in the fire.
As for the Ma part of masenko: I guess that makes sense.
*Just puts 2+2 together and gets Ma Junior*

[Jerseymilk]

Actually, it's never been proven either way if the Masenko was taught to Gohan by Piccolo. There's no direct evidence to prove or disprove it unfortunately.

[Pedro The Hutt]

Thank goodness too, if everything was explained to it's tiniest grittiest detail... there wouldn't be much going on on this forum. =D

[Mike D]

I know this is a very bland statement but, has anyone ever noticed that the first time it was shown for Gohan to ever use the masenko was after Piccolos death and that it could have be somewhat of a tribute to his late master?

[*PINHEAD*]

Mmm...

Well, ki isn't heat. It's life force. But what it can be manipulated to is another thing. In that instance, Son Gohan used it to start a fire.

I go with the idea that Goku learned to fly only during the fight with Piccolo, but he perhaps attempted to do it while training with Kami. As for Gohan, I think the first time he used ki as a sort of blast-like fashion was when Piccolo threw him against that rock. So Piccolo must have taught, or at least helped him to control it during their training before the Saiyans's arrival.

[Gamingdevil]

Yes I mentioned that he uses it naturally when he is enraged, but we never saw when he learned to control it, he just uses it to start a fire. And doesn't Piccolo use the Masenko too and I doubt, Gohan thaught it to hime

[Chibi Mystic Gohan]

Actually, it's never been proven either way if the Masenko was taught to Gohan by Piccolo. There's no direct evidence to prove or disprove it unfortunately.

I'd call the attack name itself "evidence." What reason would Gohan himself have for naming it after a demon?