Is Trunks any good with a sword?

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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Velasa » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:21 pm

the_abberration wrote:This guy taught him.

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IMO, sometimes a weapon seems to be a symbol of master/student relationships in DB. (...)

When Piccolo trained Gohan he gave Gohan a sword. We know future Trunks was trained by Gohan. The scene where Gohan kicks Trunks in the water is reminiscent of Piccolo throwing Gohan in the water that time. To some degree, I feel that Gohan's death was a parallel to Piccolo's as far as the master/student relationship goes.

To me, I don't see it so much a stretch that at some point Gohan gave Trunks a sword to train with. It explains (to me) why he grabs it when he goes to fight the androids. It had sentimental value to him (...)
Fuck yes my friend, hit the nail on the head. When you take into account that there are only three people in DB Trunks could have interacted with in that timeline who ever used swords, and only one of them he knew for any period of time it becomes pretty obvious to me. Plus the whole part about passing-the-torch always makes me tear up a little bit ^^
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:17 am

Velasa wrote:
the_abberration wrote:This guy taught him.

[/snip Gohan
(...)
IMO, sometimes a weapon seems to be a symbol of master/student relationships in DB. (...)

When Piccolo trained Gohan he gave Gohan a sword. We know future Trunks was trained by Gohan. The scene where Gohan kicks Trunks in the water is reminiscent of Piccolo throwing Gohan in the water that time. To some degree, I feel that Gohan's death was a parallel to Piccolo's as far as the master/student relationship goes.

To me, I don't see it so much a stretch that at some point Gohan gave Trunks a sword to train with. It explains (to me) why he grabs it when he goes to fight the androids. It had sentimental value to him (...)
Fuck yes my friend, hit the nail on the head. When you take into account that there are only three people in DB Trunks could have interacted with in that timeline who ever used swords, and only one of them he knew for any period of time it becomes pretty obvious to me. Plus the whole part about passing-the-torch always makes me tear up a little bit ^^
So the question now is...where did Gohan get the sword from?
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Godo » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:05 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Velasa wrote:
the_abberration wrote:This guy taught him.

[/snip Gohan
(...)
IMO, sometimes a weapon seems to be a symbol of master/student relationships in DB. (...)

When Piccolo trained Gohan he gave Gohan a sword. We know future Trunks was trained by Gohan. The scene where Gohan kicks Trunks in the water is reminiscent of Piccolo throwing Gohan in the water that time. To some degree, I feel that Gohan's death was a parallel to Piccolo's as far as the master/student relationship goes.

To me, I don't see it so much a stretch that at some point Gohan gave Trunks a sword to train with. It explains (to me) why he grabs it when he goes to fight the androids. It had sentimental value to him (...)
Fuck yes my friend, hit the nail on the head. When you take into account that there are only three people in DB Trunks could have interacted with in that timeline who ever used swords, and only one of them he knew for any period of time it becomes pretty obvious to me. Plus the whole part about passing-the-torch always makes me tear up a little bit ^^
So the question now is...where did Gohan get the sword from?
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by nathantheguitarist » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:15 pm

:| Uhmmm... I've seen the Trunks special like twice, if that, but can I really be the only one that picked up on this?

A bunch of people had swords. I don't remember exactly where I saw this but Trunks was walking down some... place, and like several other people had the same type of sword.

Anyone that actually owns a DVD of it want to try and find this part? I thought it was almost blatant when I saw it.

Edit: Ho ho! I was semi-wrong! It wasn't from the Trunks special, it was from his flashback episode. Yay for ToT!

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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Godo » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:27 pm

You would think that Mystic Gohan on that screenshot could have helped out Trunks.

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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by nathantheguitarist » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:03 pm

Mystic Gohan in Pallete-Swap Trunks clothes. :mrgreen:
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:56 am

And don't forget sad future Kageyama singing in the background: "Whoa, whoaohoh, whoahohoh, whoaohohhhhhhh!" Talk about a truly horrifying end for humanity! :lol:
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by MCDaveG » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:27 am

If not good, he's cool with that sword 8)
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Dayspring » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:32 pm

Interesting filler! Does this mean Trunks started up/joined some kind of martial arts/samurai resistence movement? What episode is that and what boxset (orange brick) is it in?

Not that knowing would help, as I only have the first 2 bricks... :P
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by nathantheguitarist » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:36 pm

Don't.... blow that way outta proportion dude. :shock:

It's from episode 124. Don't know (or care) which Orange Brick it's in. Here's more screenshots.
http://templeotrunks.com/images/screenc ... 124_1.html
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Dayspring » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:37 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:Don't.... blow that way outta proportion dude. :shock:

It's from episode 124. Don't know (or care) which Orange Brick it's in. Here's more screenshots.
http://templeotrunks.com/images/screenc ... 124_1.html
I'm not saying it was anything successful, obviously. I just don't see Trunks grave-robbing someone, let alone future Trunks.
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by nathantheguitarist » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:42 pm

Aaaand you're still blowing it out of proportion. :P

Just take it as "everyone in the future has a sword..." If I could watch that episode, I'd tell you exactly what happens, but it's not a lot or anything significant from what I recall. He just has it, and some other people who are dead also have swords. I think I remember seeing a few people alive who had a sword too... but meh. I can't check. :?
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:31 pm

Dayspring wrote:Interesting filler! Does this mean Trunks started up/joined some kind of martial arts/samurai resistence movement? What episode is that and what boxset (orange brick) is it in?

Not that knowing would help, as I only have the first 2 bricks... :P
I just don't see Trunks doing that. Anyway, even Trunks should know that starting up a resistance (John Connor?!!!) would be useless, as no human on the planet is going to make it even close to his strength.

Perhaps, since the Androids were destroying humanity and all, swords had become something of a popular weapon of choice for fending off the Androids.

Although, to humans, a gun would be more useful than a sword...unless every human had been trained in swordplay. Or, maybe, the humans had witnessed Trunks fighting the Androids with a sword, and since they may know that Trunks is the only one with a chance of defeating the Androids, they took it upon themselves to have a sword, maybe in honour of Trunks (like some kind of Mr. Satan-esque respect sign) or use it in battle to fight the Androids with it.
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Herms » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:49 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Whether it's just my brain being weird or it's actually just another a fan theory, but I have heard things like Trunks' sword being "a gift from the gods".
Sounds like a mangling of the fact that Tapion's sword was a gift from God (of Planet Konats?), along with that flute.
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by MCDaveG » Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:53 am

Look at Gohan on left bottom of the screenshot..... He's after heavy night saying: ''Where the fuck I got that sword?!''
The future is that bad, that even Gohan got himself into heavy alcoholism, beating people he meets on his way home and robbing them off their items.
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Rocketman » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:39 pm

Trunks is horrible with a sword. In his hands, it may as well be a club, or the leg bone of an antelope.

But then, he was trained by Gohan, whose entire fighting style is "Attack headfirst".

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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Kaboom » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:37 pm

I'm not sure just how good Trunks may or may not be with the sword in-universe. I think it's possibly more a matter of sword combat not being Toriyama's artistic forté or focus. It's DragonBall, not Rurouni Kenshin.
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:49 pm

Rocketman wrote:Trunks is horrible with a sword. In his hands, it may as well be a club, or the leg bone of an antelope.

But then, he was trained by Gohan, whose entire fighting style is "Attack headfirst".
He has to be somewhat skilled at using a sword, even a little. I mean, he threw it up and caught it in the sheath on his back.
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Dayspring » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:18 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Trunks is horrible with a sword. In his hands, it may as well be a club, or the leg bone of an antelope.

But then, he was trained by Gohan, whose entire fighting style is "Attack headfirst".
He has to be somewhat skilled at using a sword, even a little. I mean, he threw it up and caught it in the sheath on his back.
I've done something similar with hockey sticks, but I can't play for beans. These guys can finitely control their movements and ki blasts. Chucking a sword in that style is badass AND impressive, but redonk hand-eye coordination isn't indicative of swordsmanship.
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Re: Is Trunks any good with a sword?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:13 am

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Rocketman wrote:Trunks is horrible with a sword. In his hands, it may as well be a club, or the leg bone of an antelope.

But then, he was trained by Gohan, whose entire fighting style is "Attack headfirst".
He has to be somewhat skilled at using a sword, even a little. I mean, he threw it up and caught it in the sheath on his back.
I've done something similar with hockey sticks, but I can't play for beans. These guys can finitely control their movements and ki blasts. Chucking a sword in that style is badass AND impressive, but redonk hand-eye coordination isn't indicative of swordsmanship.
Even Trunks and others can finitely control their movements and ki blasts, swordsmanship is a different thing. OK, maybe Trunks isn't as skilled as one may like to think, but even so, he used it as his main weapon. If he didn't know how to use it properly, he would've just been waving the sword like an idiot.

Well, who am I to talk? I'm no expert at swords, really. We don't know how skilled Trunks would've been, and we didn't even need the damn thing in the first place.
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