Mr. Satan's name

SilverPlaqueVII · Post by **SilverPlaqueVII** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:25 pm

So in terms of it, Mr. Satan was just a name that Toriyama made for patterns (even Videl). Mr. Satan is used in the Japanese media, Uncut FUNimation DVDs, and the Mexican IntelliTRACK dub. However, he was called "HERCULE" in the FUNimation and Viz edited releases. Mark is clarified in the Super Exciting Guide.

SSJSteve · Post by **SSJSteve** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:30 pm

SilverPlaqueVII wrote:So in terms of it, Mr. Satan was just a name that Toriyama made for patterns (even Videl). Mr. Satan is used in the Japanese media, Uncut FUNimation DVDs, and the Mexican IntelliTRACK dub. However, he was called "HERCULE" in the FUNimation and Viz edited releases. Mark is clarified in the Super Exciting Guide.

What's your question?

B · Post by B » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:43 pm

So in terms of it, The sky was just blue and had clouds in it (which are white). The sky can be seen in Japan, United Kingdom, and Mexico. However, the sky is "BLACK" at night. This is clarified when you look up.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:55 pm

It sounds to me like our friend Silver is sort of bouncing this off of us to make sure he has it all right.

Which he does, almost. "Hercule" didn't originate from the FUNimation dub first. Some European dub, a French one I think, used the name because they had already assigned the name "Satan" in part or whole to Piccolo.

Gaffer Tape · Post by **Gaffer Tape** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:09 pm

And it's worth mentioning, I suppose, that "Mr. Savage" was something of a prototype name used in marketing action figures in the years before FUNimation actually dubbed the episodes in which he appeared.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:29 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:And it's worth mentioning, I suppose, that "Mr. Savage" was something of a prototype name used in marketing action figures in the years before FUNimation actually dubbed the episodes in which he appeared.

Which would have been totally preferable to "Hercule," if you ask me.

SilverPlaqueVII · Post by **SilverPlaqueVII** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:35 pm

If tips can differ, It has nothing to do with the Satanic connection. Seriously, the real name for Satan was Mark or if you ask me, Akuma.

Taku128 · Post by **Taku128** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:49 pm

SilverPlaqueVII wrote:If tips can differ, It has nothing to do with the Satanic connection. Seriously, the real name for Satan was Mark or if you ask me, Akuma.

Toriyama revealed that in 2009 though. FUNimation decided to name the character Hercule in 2000, nine years before Toriyama revealed Mr. Satan's actual name. The information wasn't around back then, so they couldn't name him Mark. Well, they could've, but it would've been entirely coincidental.

Gaffer Tape · Post by **Gaffer Tape** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:23 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:And it's worth mentioning, I suppose, that "Mr. Savage" was something of a prototype name used in marketing action figures in the years before FUNimation actually dubbed the episodes in which he appeared.
Which would have been totally preferable to "(the H-word)," if you ask me.

Agreed. The H-word just came completely out of left field. At least Mr. Savage seems tangentially-related to the original name.

linkdude20002001 · Post by **linkdude20002001** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:59 am

SilverPlaqueVII wrote:If tips can differ, It has nothing to do with the Satanic connection. Seriously, the real name for Satan was Mark or if you ask me, Akuma.

Māku, not Akuma. Akuma is the Japanese word for devil or Satan. Toriyama rearranged that and got Māku, or Mark.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:42 am

I wonder, if "Mark" had been around back when they first started dubbing the Cell arc, would they have used that name to refer to him in the edited version instead of the "H" word?

Piccolo Daimaoh · Post by **Piccolo Daimaoh** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:07 am

FUNimation could have used Mr. Tasan or Mr. Nastan which are anagrams like Videl.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:01 am

I think Daimao said he was for calling him Mr. Saturn.

Savage68 · Post by **Savage68** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:07 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:FUNimation could have used Mr. Tasan or Mr. Nastan which are anagrams like Videl.

These names wouldn't mean anything, and would sound awkward on top of that.

the_abberration · Post by **the_abberration** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:44 am

Savage68 wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:FUNimation could have used Mr. Tasan or Mr. Nastan which are anagrams like Videl.
These names wouldn't mean anything, and would sound awkward on top of that.

I believe PD was saying, they could have at least tried to use some variation of the word Satan, as opposed to naming him Hercule. Like Videl = Devil.

Personally, I feel they should have went with Dante. It would have been less overt compared to Satan, while at the same time keeping the same meaning.

Blue · Post by **Blue** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:52 am

Mr.HFIL?

B · Post by B » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:14 am

Beelz is the only correct choice. If you can call censorship correct.

Savage68 · Post by **Savage68** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:30 am

All of these names sound worse than what he was actually named...

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:32 pm

B wrote:Beelz is the only correct choice. If you can call censorship correct.

Or "Mr. Beel", but pronounced more like "Mr. Bill"?

. That's scary, so ...

Post by **Herms** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:39 pm

Savage68 wrote:These names wouldn't mean anything, and would sound awkward on top of that.

So...they'd be just like "Her.cule", then?

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