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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Thanos6 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:33 am

It's not the dance (though that certainly doesn't help). It's everything. It's the way they're not just willing but eager to merge their bodies and minds.

But most of all it's just the sheer tightness of their relationship. That actually served as the basis for one of the best fics I ever read, where they are dating girls but both end up getting dumped, because the girls realize they'll never be as important to them as the other is. Before they'd agree to a date or anything, they'd always check to see if each other had any plans first. Depressed over this, the two of them get nice and liquored up, in their drunken haze admit they've been...curious...about each other, and things go from there.

Alcohol aside, that's how I see them. They're so incredibly close I just don't see them able to form any long-term romantic relationships with anyone else. I guess it's the unquestionable fact that they love one another fiercely...I just think it grows beyond just the "best friend" kind of love.

(also re: orientation, I see them willing to fool around with girls physically while keeping their hearts for each other, especially if they do it together. Or at least, I see Trunks willing to do this and talking Goten into it)

But we're heading into the dangerous reefs of off-topic waters. Maybe this needs its own topic?
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Godo » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:59 pm

Thanos6 wrote:It's not the dance (though that certainly doesn't help). It's everything. It's the way they're not just willing but eager to merge their bodies and minds.

But most of all it's just the sheer tightness of their relationship. That actually served as the basis for one of the best fics I ever read, where they are dating girls but both end up getting dumped, because the girls realize they'll never be as important to them as the other is. Before they'd agree to a date or anything, they'd always check to see if each other had any plans first. Depressed over this, the two of them get nice and liquored up, in their drunken haze admit they've been...curious...about each other, and things go from there.

Alcohol aside, that's how I see them. They're so incredibly close I just don't see them able to form any long-term romantic relationships with anyone else. I guess it's the unquestionable fact that they love one another fiercely...I just think it grows beyond just the "best friend" kind of love.

(also re: orientation, I see them willing to fool around with girls physically while keeping their hearts for each other, especially if they do it together. Or at least, I see Trunks willing to do this and talking Goten into it)

But we're heading into the dangerous reefs of off-topic waters. Maybe this needs its own topic?
Eh, apart from that fic, the only "evidence" you have is that they wanted to merge their bodies eagerly...

Look, they saw Babidi and Buu and their capabilities. Gohan was dead, Goku was going to return, Vegeta was dead too.
The only capable fighter they had left was Piccolo.
They were the only ones who were able to fight Buu, so they fused.
And merging with someone else to become a stronger fighter doesn't mean it has to be anything sexual or likewise over it.
Remember that they were hesitant to fuse to begin with too.

And believe me, in many cultures, that "over best friend kind of love" that you are speaking about is just called "brotherly love", or even in America as "bromance" or, as seen on Scrubs as "Guy Love".

Sure, they may have a real tight relationship, but it doesn't have to be anything sexual.
That's what I am saying.

If you are pointing at the two of them having a relationship beyond the body and only at the spiritual level, that could be possible. But regarding them being bisexual or homosexual, nothing points at it in the series.

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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Big Momma » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:21 pm

While I personally don't believe his theory at all, and think it's a rather crazy thing to believe, I don't see why everyone is going out of their way to disprove on Thanos' fan theories. It's not that big of a deal. Nothing wrong with a little good-ol' fanpairing.
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:25 pm

Big Momma wrote:While I personally don't believe his theory at all, and think it's a rather crazy thing to believe, I don't see why everyone is going out of their way to disprove on Thanos' fan theories. It's not that big of a deal. Nothing wrong with a little good-ol' fanpairing.
It's because it makes them feel insecure about their sexuality. :P I myself am as straight as an arral, as I had stated earlier in this thread. I don't need to convince myself, as I am simply not a homoerotic!

I wouldn't mind if Goten and Trunks were gays, but I don’t want ‘em stuffing it down my throat all the time. Certainly not in my kid’s face. Anyone get that reference? :^P
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by caejones » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:31 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:
Big Momma wrote:While I personally don't believe his theory at all, and think it's a rather crazy thing to believe, I don't see why everyone is going out of their way to disprove on Thanos' fan theories. It's not that big of a deal. Nothing wrong with a little good-ol' fanpairing.
It's because it makes them feel insecure about their sexuality. I myself am as straight as an arral, as I had stated earlier in this thread. I don't need to convince myself, as I am simply not a homoerotic!

I wouldn't mind if Goten and Trunks were gays, but I don’t want ‘em stuffing it down my throat all the time. Certainly not in my kid’s face. Anyone get that reference? :^P
What confuses me more than your satire is how much it confuses me, since it seems rather straight forward. :?

I do find it kinda ironic how everyone was playing around with "lol Ten×Chaozu", but everyone's all "WTF that's crazy!1!!" over Goten×Trunks. :lol:
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:36 pm

caejones wrote:What confuses me more than your satire is how much it confuses me, since it seems rather straight forward. :?
Is that a good thing? :lol:

Back when I was in school, I always told ridiculous jokes, but I never cracked a smile and acted as though I was dead serious, and everyone always believed me. However, I don't know if it was my talent or their gullibility.:P I guess I got that from my Dad.
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:40 pm

caejones wrote:I do find it kinda ironic how everyone was playing around with "lol Ten×Chaozu", but everyone's all "WTF that's crazy!1!!" over Goten×Trunks. :lol:
Probably because Tenshinhan & Chaozu appear to be much more close friends than Goten & Trunks. At least, in my opinion. And the fact that Tenshinhan and Chaozu are stuck to each other 24/7.
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Bussani » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:06 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:It's because it makes them feel insecure about their sexuality.
HA HA HA HA HA.

No, seriously. Throwing that out because people are discussing this instead of just smiling and nodding is ridiculous.
Big Momma wrote:While I personally don't believe his theory at all, and think it's a rather crazy thing to believe, I don't see why everyone is going out of their way to disprove on Thanos' fan theories. It's not that big of a deal. Nothing wrong with a little good-ol' fanpairing.
Who's trying to "disprove" it? No one's said anything except, "I see no evidence for it and thus disagree."

Personally, I think Godo makes a good point. People are always quick to look at two same sex characters who have a close relationship and label them gay, which sometimes completely misses the point of the relationship. And I'm not actually saying this is the case with Thanos' theory, so...don't everyone fly off the handle at me, now.
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Big Momma » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:22 pm

Bussani wrote: Personally, I think Godo makes a good point. People are always quick to look at two same sex characters who have a close relationship and label them gay, which sometimes completely misses the point of the relationship.
I actually do agree with that.
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Post by caejones » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:31 pm

Big Momma wrote:
Bussani wrote: Personally, I think Godo makes a good point. People are always quick to look at two same sex characters who have a close relationship and label them gay, which sometimes completely misses the point of the relationship.
I actually do agree with that.
Ditto. It seems to be popular to do that with everyone ranging from fictional characters to historical figures nowadays. -_-
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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:23 am

I'm also one of those who hate "Friends = Gays" statement. :evil:

Tenshinhan and Chaozu are friends = gays?! Next thing they would say is Goku and Vegeta are gays because they became best friends and fused with each other from time to time!

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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Metalwario64 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:03 am

SHINOBI-03 wrote:Next thing they would say is Goku and Vegeta are gays because they became best friends and fused with each other from time to time!
Oh, you have no idea... :lol:
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Post by Xyex » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:34 am

Metalwario64 wrote:
SHINOBI-03 wrote:Next thing they would say is Goku and Vegeta are gays because they became best friends and fused with each other from time to time!
Oh, you have no idea... :lol:
Indeed. There's already plenty of people who pair up Goku and Vegeta because of their rivalry with each other, and their fusion. If you poke around in fanfiction long enough you'll also find Jeice/Burter because of how they interacted with each other in the story. I've even seen Future Gohan/Future Trunks before. Not to mention the rather rampant Piccolo/Gohan.
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Post by Velasa » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:27 pm

Technically, everything's been done. If you can think of it.. it's been done. Certain pairs are just more popular than others and get brought up more.

Xyex wrote:Not to mention the rather rampant Piccolo/Gohan.
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But seriously, I've been wanting to make a serious discussion about slash (both kinds) in fandom for over a year. I just never get around to it. Your opinions?
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Post by Thanos6 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:44 pm

And on a hopefully less controversial note: Kuririn and #18. We jump from her calling him an octopus and then saying "Later" to the two of them married with a daughter. I'd love to see how that romance played out.

(What really strikes me as amusing is that it's tied with Gohan and Videl as "most well-portrayed romance")
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Post by Xyex » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:06 pm

Velasa wrote:Technically, everything's been done. If you can think of it.. it's been done. Certain pairs are just more popular than others and get brought up more.
True. I've seen just about every pairing possible, and some that aren't. You've got the ones mentioned above as well as Vegeta/Yamcha, Piccolo/Goten, and 17/Trunks (and those are all from the same fic). Then you've got things like Bra/Pan, Marron/Pan, Marron/Bra, Bra/Pan/Marron, Krillin/Yamcha, T­ien/Yamcha, Yamcha/Puar, 18/Videl, 17/Yamcha, 17/Piccolo, Vegeta/Piccolo, Vegeta/17, Vegeta/Nappa, Future Trunks/Present Gohan, Tie­n/Tao, Zangya/Videl, Zangya/Pan, Bojack/Trunks, and Brolly/Goku.

And yes, I've seen all of those before. I've done Bra/Marron.

And those are just the same sex pairings I've seen. You get some really odd straight pairings, too. Not that I haven't been guilty of those myself. I freely admit that Trunks/18 is rather odd. As are Raditz/Chichi, Zangya/Krillin, 17/Bulma, and Goku/18, which I've also done/planned to do.
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But seriously, I've been wanting to make a serious discussion about slash (both kinds) in fandom for over a year. I just never get around to it. Your opinions?
As with most things, depends on how it's done. If it's fiction then as long as it's good, isn't too wildly OOC (or has a LOT of explanation for it if it is) then it can be good no matter how strange it is. Even if it still feels weird (like the Yamcha/Vegeta and Piccolo/Goten I mentioned above).

My only real issue is when the author makes the characters blatantly OOC for no reason or goes out of their way to bash the original canon partner of the character(s) involved. It's bad enough Yamcha gets bashed to hell when people write about a canon pairing, we don't need people bashing Videl so they can put Gohan with Zangya, Future Trunks, or Lime. :roll:
Thanos6 wrote:And on a hopefully less controversial note: Kuririn and #18. We jump from her calling him an octopus and then saying "Later" to the two of them married with a daughter. I'd love to see how that romance played out.

(What really strikes me as amusing is that it's tied with Gohan and Videl as "most well-portrayed romance")
Yeah, Krillin/18 is a "WHAT!?" moment indeed. I mean, she didn't seem overly fond of him at the end of the Cell Saga. Though, I suppose that could have been an act. And I'm sure his smashing the remote instead of shutting her down, plus using a wish to help her, certainly helped earn him points. And with the hard life she'd had her reaction does make some sense, too. I doubt she was used to people doing things just because, and not because they want something out of it.
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SHINOBI-03 wrote:I'm also one of those who hate "Friends = Gays" statement. :evil:

Tenshinhan and Chaozu are friends = gays?! Next thing they would say is Goku and Vegeta are gays because they became best friends and fused with each other from time to time!

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Post by Godo » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:49 am

Pairings I have yet to see:

1) Mr. Satan/Mr. Buu
2) Mr. Satan/Bee
3) Mr. Satan/Mecha Bee
4) Fat guy that explodes/Farmer w. Shotgun
5) Nappa/Ranchi
6) Goku/Upa (both grown up, perverts. I know what you were thinking)

Explanations for these pairings:

1) Well, they have a rather special relationship, with Buu being kinda naive and obedient to Mr. Satan. And then, Mr. Satan has been inside of him too. Or Buu's love grows so big that he falls in love with Mr. Satan.
2) Bestiality!
3) Bee doesn't get healed by Buu. Instead, Bulma repairs him with robot parts. Bestiality to the EXTREME!
4) Fat, cuddly, hairy teddybears finally wonder where they have been all their lives. Both have a love for guns too.
5) Ranchi watches Nappa on TV, and since Nappa didn't die, she sets out on a journey out in space looking for him. And Nappa likes tough chicks, so it works out.
6) In the story, Goku found out about the differences between boys and girls a tad bit later, so he falls in love with Upa, hanging a lot with him. But when they grow up, he finds not only that Upa is a man, but that he is rather handsome too. Love goes over logic, as we all know, and they wind up as a couple.

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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:41 am

Is this just gonna be a thread about random, illogical pairings between DB characters?

If so...

Kuririn & Upa. At their first meeting, Kuririn thought Upa was a girl and that he was hot (or whatever he said). He became embarrassed, however, when he discovered he was male.

But! Years down the line, Kuririn eventually meets up with the man he once thought was female. Dumping #18, Kuririn hurries towards his lover's village to reveal his true feelings about how he feels about him. And then the story goes on from there... :lol:

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Oh yeah. And why are people all acting as if Kuririn & 18's relationship was some sudden jump from hate-to-love thing? Yes, #18 was revolted by Kuririn at first, even after ol' Horny Chestnut-Man saved her by destroying the remote control. But then afterwards, there was a slight hint that she admired him after he removed her bomb. And THEN...7 fucking years. A fuck lot can happen in 7 years. Maybe not always in DB World, but still...if we're trying to think about this in real-life situations (since all these weird pairings are probably thought up as if the DB characters are living in the real world), a relationship could well have developed between them in those years, even when #18 had a small admiration for Kuririn at the end of the Cell Arc.
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And yes, I've seen all of those before. I've done Bra/Marron.

And those are just the same sex pairings I've seen. You get some really odd straight pairings, too. Not that I haven't been guilty of those myself. I freely admit that Trunks/18 is rather odd. As are Raditz/Chichi, Zangya/Krillin, 17/Bulma, and Goku/18, which I've also done/planned to do.
Jeez! Next thing you know, it'll be incestuous pairings!

No...don't tell me that actually exists. :shock:
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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Xyex » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:10 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Jeez! Next thing you know, it'll be incestuous pairings!

No...don't tell me that actually exists. :shock:
Oh ye of little faith. :twisted: The ones I have seen....

In fiction: 17/Marron, 17/18, Trunks/Bra, Goten/Pan, Gohan/Pan, Gohan/Goten, and Bardock/Pan.

In art: 17/Marron, 17/18, 18/Marron, Goku/Pan, Goten/Pan, Gohan/Pan, Bardock/Pan, Videl/Pan, Videl/Herc­ule, Chi-Chi/Gohan, Chi-Chi/Goten, Chi-Chi/Pan, Chi-Chi/Ox King, Bulma/Trunks, Bulma/Bra, and on and on in various groups of three, four, six, and so forth.

And let's not forget that the DBZ kids are the most sexually active people in the universe. There's more Kid Goku/Bulma, Kid Goku/Pan, Kid Gohan/Bulma, Kid Gohan/Chi-Chi, Kid Trunks/Bulma, Kid Trunks/Chi-Chi, Kid Trunks/Videl, Kid Trunks/18, Kid Goten/18, Kid Goten/Bulma, Kid Goten/Chi-Chi, and Kid Goten/Videl out there than there are instances of Brolly screaming "Kakkarotto" in all three of his movies combined. :lol:
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