The Dead Zone Re-Dub Question

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The Dead Zone Re-Dub Question

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:36 pm

In the insert for Brollys Second Comming, It has some text on up comming releases one of them being the Dead Zone. It says "Digitally remasterd with never-before seen footage"

How can this be? Typo?

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Re: The Dead Zone Re-Dub Question

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:44 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:In the insert for Brollys Second Comming, It has some text on up comming releases one of them being the Dead Zone. It says "Digitally remasterd with never-before seen footage"

How can this be? Typo?
They're insane, that's how. "Remaster" ? Sure, whatever. But there's no additional footage we didn't get in the original release.
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Post by lost in thought » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:48 pm

Marketing ploy all the way. I wouldn't be surprised if this 'footage' is nothing more than an advertisement for either movie 11, or the 'Worlds Strongest' redub. (That is to say, if there will be one of Worlds Strongest.)

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:32 am

lost in thought wrote: or the 'Worlds Strongest' redub. (That is to say, if there will be one of Worlds Strongest.)
Steve was workin' on the translation, so that's as good a confirmation as any :P.
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Post by dragonpearls » Thu Apr 07, 2005 9:19 am

.....Maybe there talking about the credits? :?
I mean, they didn't really show them in the other version.
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Post by lost in thought » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:03 am

VegettoEX wrote:Steve was workin' on the translation, so that's as good a confirmation as any :P .
Thats good, I like Steve's work. The knowledge that there's actually production on the movie isn't lost on me either, since I like the first three movies far more than any that came after... and what's more I will be able to have three versions of each movie. heh.
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Post by Ero-Sennin » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:05 am

The never before seen footage could just be a new opening or ending sequence and by using that they are not falsely advertising. So personally I wouldn't get you hopes up.
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Post by lost in thought » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:59 am

My hope peaks with the redub, for collectors purposes. I don't care how bad the dub is, as long as I can get an uncut bilingual dvd.

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Post by SonGokuGT » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:36 pm

lost in thought wrote:My hope peaks with the redub, for collectors purposes. I don't care how bad the dub is, as long as I can get an uncut bilingual dvd.
The Pioneer version was Uncut/Bilingual... But this one will be better with Steve Simmons' subtitles...

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Post by spikemcruffy » Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:32 pm

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Post by SaiyaJedi » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:04 pm

spikemcruffy wrote:Wasn't Movie 1 shown edited on TV once?

Maybe thats what they mean't by never before seen footage. Maybe just saying its uncut in a different way.
*shrug* If they're saying that it has footage never seen on TV, they should word it that way. The original uncut US release of the movie was advertised as having "never-before seen footage" or some-such, except that it did have footage that hadn't been seen before in a US release (relatively uncensored though the edited version was).

Applying the whole "Ultimate Uncut" thing to the theatrical movies just strikes me as really bizarre. :?
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Post by SonGokuGT » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:24 am

M A R K E T I N G

Many will buy it just because it's says that... even if it is false advertising, some people will be suckered in.

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:31 am

It would be really funny to bring a class-action lawsuit against them for false marketing. With which the result would be sending me more free stuff. Which would result in me finding more flaws with the products and making fun of them.

It's a really weird cycle.
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Post by dragonpearls » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:00 pm

VegettoEX wrote:It would be really funny to bring a class-action lawsuit against them for false marketing. With which the result would be sending me more free stuff. Which would result in me finding more flaws with the products and making fun of them.

It's a really weird cycle.
LOL....Just like SonGokuGT stated, "M A R K E T I N G ".
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Post by SonGokuGT » Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:47 am

VegettoEX wrote:It would be really funny to bring a class-action lawsuit against them for false marketing. With which the result would be sending me more free stuff. Which would result in me finding more flaws with the products and making fun of them.

It's a really weird cycle.
If we did, we'd get lots of money and free shit! Kinda like the case against Blockbuster and the "End of Late Fees" thing.

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Post by Victator Supreme » Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:15 am

Are the original dubs going to be included on the new DVD's?

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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:25 am

Victator Supreme wrote:Are the original dubs going to be included on the new DVD's?
Highly unlikely. One of FUNimation's main goals is to distance themselves from the original dub and have fans only familiar with their own in-house voice cast (which, from a business standpoint, I honestly can't blame them for).

It would be sweet as Hell if they'd include an alternate track for these movies with the English dub and the original Japanese score (taking a hint from the original FUNimation/Pioneer release), but it'll be a cold day in Hell before that happens, I think.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:42 pm

Another concern with the older stuff will be concerning Haiya Dragon. In the video dub of "Tree of Might" he was addressed as "Higher Dragon". However movies 4, 5, and the filler he appears in goes off the tv dub calling him Icarus. They'll probably call him Icarus again I take it.

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Post by lost in thought » Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:36 pm

Super Sonic wrote:Another concern with the older stuff will be concerning Haiya Dragon. In the video dub of "Tree of Might" he was addressed as "Higher Dragon". However movies 4, 5, and the filler he appears in goes off the tv dub calling him Icarus. They'll probably call him Icarus again I take it.
It's quite likely. As far as the dispute between Icarus, and Higher Dragon goes, I was mulling it over a few days ago... and I thought of something, that gave the name Icarus a bit more meaning for the use.

Think of it this way, FUNimation could have kept such an androgynous sort of name, but then compare it to actually naming the dragon, they called him Icarus, which isn't all that obscure of a name, especially for a dragon, and with this- they actually name him, and give a little more depth to the character, that could possibly allow a better connection to the character.

It's like naming your dog, you don't name them "Lower Dog", or your cats "Lurking Cat", or birds "Chirping Bird", on the notion that giving them actual names can either A.) Make a closer relationship, and or B.) Make them seem more 'human' by comparison, and not so much a wild animal.

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Post by Victator Supreme » Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:10 pm

VegettoEX wrote:It would be sweet as Hell if they'd include an alternate track for these movies with the English dub and the original Japanese score (taking a hint from the original FUNimation/Pioneer release), but it'll be a cold day in Hell before that happens, I think.
Why is Funimation so against using the original soundtrack?

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