"Dragon Soul" Dub Lyrics -- Posted by Sean Schemmel

[Solarmax20]

Mr. Schemmel, your question is why, if you're untalented, do you keep getting hired? Such a silly question. Haven't you ever questioned why a person you think has no talent keeps getting work? Obviously plenty of people do think you have talent. And if that's true, then what I say should be of little consequence.

But hey, congratulations on all the work you're getting. I haven't really heard you in a lot of roles outside of DBZ and Ninja Nonesense, myself, but I'm aware you do get hired with some frequency.

No, it's not a silly question. I'm asking you directly. It's not rhetorical. I want you to explain to me, why YOU think my work sucks, or frankly I think you should shut your mouth. You're skirting my question with every post, and I think it's because you don't know how to articulate why I suck. I'm giving you a chance to develop some credibility for yourself, which you are losing with me, and possibly others, with every post that does not include an answer.

[Xyex]

Re: Big Momma

I know, but I hope they don't.

I am both someone who has been quite upset over the years at the products FUNimation has put out but am hopeful for Kai and am an aspiring performer. Therefore, I respect both penguintruth's and Mr. Schemmel's opinions and positions. And I think it would be quite enlightening to see if they could have a rational discussion about it. At least, that's my wish!

If the other party involved weren't Penguintruth that might be possible. No offense intended to him, but he seems to go out of his way to be as obnoxious as possible when expressing his views on things. Makes it rather difficult to have a rational discussion.

[TripleRach]

But seriously....if I didn't say it, the mods would have....and probably will again.

Actually, just from my perspective, I don't see anything wrong with an open debate, as long as it's relatively on-topic and civil. Since this is a thread about a song, I don't know if this is the right place to discuss acting merits, though it has come up and is somewhat relevant.

But, you know, it should be an actual debate and not just snarky back-and-forth insults.

[Blue]

You have no idea how freaking surreal this is for me right now. I'm like 40% sure I fell asleep on the keyboard.

[penguintruth]

Mr. Schemmel, explain to me why a steak tastes good. Because it does. If you're into steak, a steak tastes good. If you aren't, it doesn't. There's no objective "delicious", some people like something, others don't.

I don't happen to think that you're a good singer. There's only so much you can describe about personal taste. Why do I not think you're a good singer? Because I don't think you're a good singer. I can explain specifically why I dislike your Goku. But singing, music, it's a different beast altogether. It's self-explanatory. It's not like a book, when you can describe specific details about why you dislike a book for its writing style or storyline, music is very reactionary, very innate, in how it affects a person.

I didn't think you did a good job with "Yeah! Break! Care! Break!". Admittedly, perhaps the degree of my reaction was colored by my existing distaste for you in the role of Goku, but it stands that I didn't think it was a very good singing performance.

Not only have I answered your question, but several times over. You cannot accuse me of not answering it. Everyone here can see that I did.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Re: Big Momma

I know, but I hope they don't.

I am both someone who has been quite upset over the years at the products FUNimation has put out but am hopeful for Kai and am an aspiring performer. Therefore, I respect both penguintruth's and Mr. Schemmel's opinions and positions. And I think it would be quite enlightening to see if they could have a rational discussion about it. At least, that's my wish!

If the other party involved weren't Penguintruth that might be possible. No offense intended to him, but he seems to go out of his way to be as obnoxious as possible when expressing his views on things. Makes it rather difficult to have a rational discussion.

There you go again making all that "sense" stuff!

[ohaimynameiserik]

Mr. Schemmel, explain to me why a steak tastes good. Because it does. If you're into steak, a steak tastes good. If you aren't, it doesn't. There's no objective "delicious", some people like something, others don't.

I don't happent to think that you're a good singer. There's only so much you can describe about personal taste. Why do I not think you're a good singer? Because I don't think you're a good singer. It's self-explanatory. It's not like a book, when you can describe specific details about why you dislike a book for its writing style or storyline, music is very reactionary, very innate, in how it affects a person.

I didn't think you did a good job with "Yeah! Break! Care! Break!". Admittedly, perhaps the degree of my reaction was colored by my existing distaste for you in the role of Goku, but it stands that I didn't think it was a very good singing performance.

Not only have I answered your question, but several times over. You cannot accuse me of not answering it. Everyone here can see that I did.

Oh and also, sorry for the double post, but Sean didn't sing Yeah! Break! Care! Break!, he did Dragon Soul.

[Mewzard]

I'm pretty sure Sean sung Dragon Soul, and Jerry Jewell sung Yeah! Break! Care! Break!, unless I'm mistaken.

And you could describe qualities of tone, rhythm, pitch, the lyrics themselves bringing down his performance for you, etc.

[penguintruth]

Right, I meant Dragon Soul, sorry.

I actually thought the ED was fairly well done.

[Gaffer Tape]

Re: Xyex (damn, posts keep coming in too fast!)

I think penguintruth delves into hyperbole on occasion for humor's sake, but I'm hoping that when put the test, he can deliver a clear argument as to why he dislikes Schemmel's portrayal as Goku. Hell, in fact, I'll give it a shot.

First off, I should say that I haven't been following the dub in years, but in the more recent work he's done that I've seen, I've been quite impressed with how he's come along as Goku, especially the goofy, childlike innocence of him. Sean seems to have that down. However, with DBox 3 out, I've been spot checking some of his old work. And, like he said, this was his first acting job, and he's had ten years of experience since then. But in those early episodes, while he had some good moments, the voice overall is too nasal and pushed, like he hadn't quite learned how to use his diaphragm in his acting work yet. And sometimes that can sound quite grating. I haven't listened to much of his recent action stuff, but I'm pretty sure he's improved. Sadly, I don't have anything positive to say about his Kaio-sama. Sorry, Mr. Schemmel. I don't like to hurt anybody's feelings, but, honestly, that's my least favorite voice in the entire dub.

As for his singing, I've only heard low-quality clips of Dragon Soul, but I thought it was both pretty good on its own as well as evoking feelings of the original song's performance. Can't get much better than that!

So, see. That's how one does it. Hopefully I gave a good critique without resorting to any bashing or gushing. I'm sure penguintruth can manage that too.

[Innagadadavida]

Mr. Schemmel, explain to me why a steak tastes good. Because it does. If you're into steak, a steak tastes good. If you aren't, it doesn't. There's no objective "delicious", some people like something, others don't.

Ummm... It's really easy to explain why steak is good. Food Critics make a living describing why certain foods taste better than other foods. Music Critics make a living describing why they prefer some singing voices.

[Blue]

Sadly, I don't have anything positive to say about his Kaio-sama. Sorry, Mr. Schemmel. I don't like to hurt anybody's feelings, but, honestly, that's my least favorite voice in the entire dub.

Yeah I have to say I agree 100%. Are you doing anything new with this voice in the Kai performance?

[ohaimynameiserik]

Sadly, I don't have anything positive to say about his Kaio-sama. Sorry, Mr. Schemmel. I don't like to hurt anybody's feelings, but, honestly, that's my least favorite voice in the entire dub.

Yeah I have to say I agree 100%. Are you doing anything new with this voice in the Kai performance?

He's stated on facebook that the voice does not change much from the previous version, aside from improvements in his own personal acting.

[Big Momma]

Mr. Schemmel, explain to me why a steak tastes good. Because it does. If you're into steak, a steak tastes good. If you aren't, it doesn't. There's no objective "delicious", some people like something, others don't.

Ummm... It's really easy to explain why steak is good. Food Critics make a living describing why certain foods taste better than other foods. Music Critics make a living describing why they prefer some singing voices.

Just because someone is paid to say something is good, doesn't mean that it is. The only difference between their good opinion of steak and mine is that they know the differences between multiple sauces and can spell the word "orderb".

[Blue]

He's stated on facebook that the voice does not change much from the previous version, aside from improvements in his own personal acting.

Ah okay, don't check facebook in general much so sorry if I'm being annoying.

[ohaimynameiserik]

Re: Blue

It's all good, I just made mine last saturday XD!

[Innagadadavida]

Just because someone is paid to say something is good, doesn't mean that it is. The only difference between their good opinion of steak and mine is that they know the differences between multiple sauces and can spell the word "orderb".

The point was that it is possible to explain and expand upon one's opinion. Pengiuntruth is not doing that now. He's just saying that he doesn't like it (albeit with more colorful language) and leaving it at that. He's really loving all this attention he's getting. Just look at what he's done with his sig.

[Chuquita]

I don't use Facebook at all, so reading these conversations is a really interesting situation to me.

As for the opening song, I'm going to wait until Kai airs so I can hear it clearly.

[penguintruth]

He's really loving all this attention he's getting. Just look at what he's done with his sig.

Because my signature hasn't been that way for months, amirite?

Mr. Schemmel, explain to me why a steak tastes good. Because it does. If you're into steak, a steak tastes good. If you aren't, it doesn't. There's no objective "delicious", some people like something, others don't.

Ummm... It's really easy to explain why steak is good. Food Critics make a living describing why certain foods taste better than other foods. Music Critics make a living describing why they prefer some singing voices.

I'm not a music critic.

First of all, I'm not a big fan of "Dragon Soul". Second, while the lyrics are okay in English, I felt like it was a poor decision to get Mr. Schemmel to sing the song, because it takes the viewer out of the moment if they think Goku is singing the theme song to a show about him. It comes off awkwardly. Third, his specific peformance didn't really sell the lyrics or the feeling of a new version of DBZ opening up.

And I'm not hypocritical about this, I usually dislike when the Japanese VAs sing songs, too, even if they're not particularly in-character. I give special exceptions here and there, though, such as when Gohan sings, because it's usually cutesy little tunes you'd imagine he would have in his head.

[ohaimynameiserik]

I'm not a music critic.

First of all, I'm not a big fan of "Dragon Soul". Second, while the lyrics are okay in English, I felt like it was a poor decision to get Mr. Schemmel to sing the song, because it takes the viewer out of the moment if they think Goku is singing the theme song to a show about him. It comes off awkwardly. Third, his specific peformance didn't really sell the lyrics or the feeling of a new version of DBZ opening up.

And I'm not hypocritical about this, I usually dislike when the Japanese VAs sing songs, too, even if they're not particularly in-character. I give special exceptions here and there, though, such as when Gohan sings, because it's usually cutesy little tunes you'd imagine he would have in his head.

Ah, man, see that's perfect!

That's actual criticism, right there. BUH-BAM.

NOWWWW that we can put that behind us and move on with our lives... HEY SEAN, welcome to DaizEX, let's talk about your latest Dragon Ball performance in Dragon Ball Z Kai!!

Yes? No? Can we be done arguing?...