Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by KaiserNeko » Sat May 08, 2010 11:40 am

Those shots are in-between cells. Most modern and even a lot of older anime use these to help the fluidity of certain shots. It can be seen even in higher budget animation. You aren't meant to see it frame-by-frame; when in motion, it looks terrific.

Now please, for the love of God...

Stop. It.
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Post by Hujio » Sat May 08, 2010 11:43 am

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Because he wants to let everyone know that he can take screencaps of everything.
Yeah, shitty screen shots. That always helps the cause...

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Khalid Shahin » Sat May 08, 2010 12:29 pm

The animation is the least of the intros problems; I hate the art style of their hair, but that's it.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by zeldarocks » Sat May 08, 2010 5:15 pm

I was wondering, what's the extent of the uncensoring present in the Dvds and Blu-rays? Is it uncensored in relation to the Nicktoons Broadcast, or uncensored in relation to the Japanese Broadcast's censoring?

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Post by MarcFBR » Sat May 08, 2010 5:25 pm

zeldarocks wrote:I was wondering, what's the extent of the uncensoring present in the Dvds and Blu-rays? Is it uncensored in relation to the Nicktoons Broadcast, or uncensored in relation to the Japanese Broadcast's censoring?
They are equivalent to what you would buy on disk in Japan, as is true of all Funimation releases.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat May 08, 2010 7:01 pm

Except for the English credits and title cards...
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Post by CashmanX » Sat May 08, 2010 7:16 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Except for the English credits and title cards...
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Puto » Sat May 08, 2010 10:38 pm

For what it's worth, the English credits include all the people involved on the Japanese side, too. And the opening credits are directly translated from the JP ones, with no dub info at all.
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Post by Kendamu » Sun May 09, 2010 5:29 am

KaiserNeko wrote:Those shots are in-between cells. Most modern and even a lot of older anime use these to help the fluidity of certain shots. It can be seen even in higher budget animation. You aren't meant to see it frame-by-frame; when in motion, it looks terrific.

Now please, for the love of God...

Stop. It.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sun May 09, 2010 6:47 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:Except for the English credits and title cards...
Well, that's good for people who actually don't know Japanese and want to read the title cards and credits.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Blue » Sun May 09, 2010 12:38 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: This. Seriously, the Kai score is really generic, almost as generic as the UUC score.
I actually like Menza's and Kenji Yamamoto's music. :lol:
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun May 09, 2010 1:48 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Except for the English credits and title cards...
Well, that's good for people who actually don't know Japanese and want to read the title cards and credits.
Except that I'm fairly sure that the original credits don't say "Produced by FUNimation Entertainment" or list Goku as being voiced by Sean Schemmel, things that have no business being in the show when I'm watching in Japanese.

Besides, I thought you knew Japanese anyway. :wink:
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Mewzard » Sun May 09, 2010 2:32 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:Except for the English credits and title cards...
Well, that's good for people who actually don't know Japanese and want to read the title cards and credits.
Except that I'm fairly sure that the original credits don't say "Produced by FUNimation Entertainment" or list Goku as being voiced by Sean Schemmel, things that have no business being in the show when I'm watching in Japanese.

Besides, I thought you knew Japanese anyway. :wink:
Just like the Japanese voices don't belong when I'm watching English? Who cares? They credit both groups, so it doesn't matter. It means less than nothing. Would you prefer quality visuals/audio, or a lowered quality to fit alternate angels? Or to pay more for an extra disc to get both?
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Post by bkev » Sun May 09, 2010 2:36 pm

If the titles are correct, I don't care if they're only in English. It's shows like Yu Yu Hakusho or the other DragonBall's where I need alternate angles, haha.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun May 09, 2010 2:40 pm

Mewzard wrote:Would you prefer... a lowered quality to fit alternate angels? Or to pay more for an extra disc to get both?
Yes. And yes, actually. Well, really, I'd prefer they do it how they did on the Dragon Boxes: original credits and title cards followed by an exclusive dub-only credits roll at the end of each disc.

I admit it's a tiny bit of reversioning, but it's reversioning nonetheless, and it's a step down from the past ten years of FUNimation releases. Maybe it's nitpicky to you, but to me it's not. I just want to watch the show properly, and that includes its own text and logo, not FUNimation's text and logo. And I agree with what Corey said earlier: with Blu-ray, it should really not be a problem to provide both.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Mewzard » Sun May 09, 2010 3:42 pm

The reason they did it in that fashion was for the fans of the original, to give the original, good quality video from the boxes. And it's not really the first step down, lots of Funi releases, since the conception of the season sets, have had only one video track. I haven't seen Alternate Angles since I last watched one of my old Detective Conan singles. Getting a certain number of episodes per disc takes up space. And how much of a difference is there between the original credits and these? Aside from translations, and crediting the Funi cast, it seems the same. I'd prefer to never see another alternate angle again as long as I never have to go through that "3 episodes for $20" shit they used to do.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Budogenkai » Sun May 09, 2010 3:46 pm

I don't mind having English title cards, as long as they are an exact translation of the original title cards.

The new music score is fine, and the new dubbing with the new music score will sound like a fresh new experience.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon May 10, 2010 5:07 am

Blue wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: This. Seriously, the Kai score is really generic, almost as generic as the UUC score.
I actually like Menza's and Kenji Yamamoto's music. :lol:
I love Menza's and Yamamoto's music. I just found his music in Kai generic.

BTW, Nathan Johnson did the music for the UUC releases.
Gaffer Tape wrote: Besides, I thought you knew Japanese anyway. :wink:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Well, that's good for people who actually don't know Japanese and want to read the title cards and credits.
I said "for people", I wasn't actually referring to myself.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon May 10, 2010 5:13 am

Did you see that? That thing? That little yellow face thing that was smiling and had one of its eyes closed in a sorta... hmm, winking position? Yeah. It's called a joke. :)

But, yeah, to come straight to the point, I'm not at all fluent in Japanese. The best I can do is make out the characters' names in the cast credits at the end of every episode of my Dragon Box (which I admit I love to do). So even though I'm one of those non-Japanese-speaking people who's supposed to prefer these glorious FUNimation-made credits... I'd still rather have the original I-can-barely-read-these credits. Why? Because that's just what the show looks like, and when I watch the show, I'd prefer to watch it (to fling around a sometimes ironic marketing term) "the way it was meant to be seen." Funny that.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z Kai Volume 1 Discussion

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Mon May 10, 2010 5:19 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:Did you see that? That thing? That little yellow face thing that was smiling and had one of its eyes closed in a sorta... hmm, winking position? Yeah. It's called a joke. :) .
Yeah I know. But still, it's kinda hard to tell.
Gaffer Tape wrote: But, yeah, to come straight to the point, I'm not at all fluent in Japanese. The best I can do is make out the characters' names in the cast credits at the end of every episode of my Dragon Box (which I admit I love to do). So even though I'm one of those non-Japanese-speaking people who's supposed to prefer these glorious FUNimation-made credits... I'd still rather have the original I-can-barely-read-these credits. Why? Because that's just what the show looks like, and when I watch the show, I'd prefer to watch it (to fling around a sometimes ironic marketing term) "the way it was meant to be seen." Funny that.
I'll admit that I have some trouble actually reading the Japanese voice actors' names, so the translated credits help me in that sense.

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