Did Kami create a replica of the moon? How?

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Did Kami create a replica of the moon? How?

Post by SSJkid » Sat May 15, 2010 4:24 pm

Did Kami create a replica of the moon? How?
And what is the exact statement in the raw ("original", I guess?) manga?

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Post by Kiyza » Sat May 15, 2010 4:26 pm

Well, he is God, so I guess that would explain how he could. Plus, he's been seen to make clothes appear out of nowhere, so perhaps that has something to with it.

While I don't remember the exact line, I remember Goku saying something about getting his tail removed so Kami could put the moon back in place.

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Post by caejones » Sat May 15, 2010 8:53 pm

I don't recall anything implying that it was a replica of the moon. Perhaps he just put the old one back together? XD
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Post by Godo » Sat May 15, 2010 8:58 pm

On another note: Why didn't they wish for Vegeta and Nappa to be transferred to the moon? If Kami can create one, Shenlong surely can transport them there = suffocation and death.

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Post by zeldarocks » Sat May 15, 2010 9:36 pm

Vegeta and Nappa weren't affected by a deprivation of oxygen; they were just fine when they blew Arlia up...

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Post by B » Sat May 15, 2010 9:38 pm

Godo wrote:On another note: Why didn't they wish for Vegeta and Nappa to be transferred to the moon? If Kami can create one, Shenlong surely can transport them there = suffocation and death.
Because the story is made up as it goes along.
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Post by Silver Sinspawn » Sun May 16, 2010 1:45 am

zeldarocks wrote:Vegeta and Nappa weren't affected by a deprivation of oxygen; they were just fine when they blew Arlia up...
FILLER. MUST BE IGNORED.

But seriously, we don't know how far the atmosphere extended.
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Post by Mewzard » Sun May 16, 2010 2:52 am

They could have just wished for a malfunction in the computer, sending them into a black hole, star, etc. They could have wished the air out of their pods. So many ways to do so.

But as for the Moon, either Kami has some mean powers gained with the god position, or he made a wish with the DBs.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun May 16, 2010 3:07 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:FILLER. MUST BE IGNORED.

But seriously, we don't know how far the atmosphere extended.

Why do people keep saying this crap. Atmospheres for Earth-like planets are very, very, very thin. We cannot survive in Earth's atmosphere above 26,000 feet up (five miles/eight kilometers) because there's not enough oxygen up there.

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Post by Kid Buu » Sun May 16, 2010 4:05 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:
zeldarocks wrote:Vegeta and Nappa weren't affected by a deprivation of oxygen; they were just fine when they blew Arlia up...
FILLER. MUST BE IGNORED.
Well that may have been filler but in the manga Majin Buu turned Vegetto (who is 50% Vegeta) into candy. Last time I checked candy doesn't have lungs or a brain but Vegetto was still capable of talking. Either Vegeta has some breathing trick he has not informed us about or maybe Vegetto does truly defy all.

On a more on topic part, I believe Kami is capable of creating a moon. Like said before, he is God.
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Post by Bussani » Sun May 16, 2010 4:10 am

Kid Buu wrote:Well that may have been filler but in the manga Majin Buu turned Vegetto (who is 50% Vegeta) into candy. Last time I checked candy doesn't have lungs or a brain but Vegetto was still capable of talking. Either Vegeta has some breathing trick he has not informed us about or maybe Vegetto does truly defy all.
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Post by Dayspring » Sun May 16, 2010 9:26 am

Rocketman wrote:
Silver Sinspawn wrote:FILLER. MUST BE IGNORED.

But seriously, we don't know how far the atmosphere extended.

Why do people keep saying this crap. Atmospheres for Earth-like planets are very, very, very thin. We cannot survive in Earth's atmosphere above 26,000 feet up (five miles/eight kilometers) because there's not enough oxygen up there.
Because it's not crap. At all. Dragonball has Goku going to the moon and leaving people there under a sustainable atmosphere. Dragonball has a moon that takes up 40-50% of the night's sky. This is not real-world Earth or even real-world ''Earth-like''.
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Post by Godo » Sun May 16, 2010 9:28 am

Also, Freeza tried to blow up Namek because of that he knew that Goku, a Saiya-jin, couldn't breathe in space...

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Post by Fin » Sun May 16, 2010 7:30 pm

What I want to know is why he bothered to bring back the moon. The Dragon Ball Earth seems perfectly capable of getting by without one.

Well, maybe he wanted to feel like a useful God for once. Unleashing an evil king of demons probably doesn't help you feel you're doing a good job.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun May 16, 2010 7:31 pm

I think he probably just liked the moon. He wanted to do a favor for werewolves, and he wanted romance to spark again, and he wanted the moon pie industry to start thriving again. Basically, all the stuff that the Tenkaichi Budoukai announcer complained about when Jackie Chun first did away with it!
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue May 18, 2010 12:38 am

I'm going with the whole "It's Magic" rule for now since it's seems like he has some magical powers that can restore stuff across the Planet.
zeldarocks wrote:Vegeta and Nappa weren't affected by a deprivation of oxygen; they were just fine when they blew Arlia up...
That was a filler, and that sceen was made before it turn out that Sayains can't live in space. It's amazing how things get retconned over time.
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Re: Did Kami create a replica of the moon? How?

Post by johnboy1 » Tue May 18, 2010 1:24 am

What filler can't explain away, however, is why they didn't ask Shenlong to destroy Nappa's and Vegeta's pods. I understand why it couldn't destroy them directly, what with it being beyond Kami's abilities to do so*, but surely Kami was powerful enough to destroy a simple spacepod, right?

*While I'm sure this has been brought up a bunch of times before, THIS RULE MAKES NO SENSE! This rule flat-out states that Kami can do everything Shenlong can. So why don't they just have Kami fix their problems instead of using the Dragon Balls? Hell, you can't even use the excuse that he has those abilities but can't ethically use them because of his godhood. Why? The Great Elder is just a really old Namekian, not a god. And yet his Dragon Balls can do all kinds of shit. You'd think he would try to revive a few of those Namekians who died in the catastrophe, if only to stave off loneliness, right? Apparently he was fine all by himself. Or why couldn't give Nail immortality or a huge power boost or SOMETHING that would let him beat Freeza?
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Re: Did Kami create a replica of the moon? How?

Post by Bussani » Tue May 18, 2010 5:55 am

johnboy1 wrote:What filler can't explain away, however, is why they didn't ask Shenlong to destroy Nappa's and Vegeta's pods. I understand why it couldn't destroy them directly, what with it being beyond Kami's abilities to do so*, but surely Kami was powerful enough to destroy a simple spacepod, right?

*While I'm sure this has been brought up a bunch of times before, THIS RULE MAKES NO SENSE! This rule flat-out states that Kami can do everything Shenlong can. So why don't they just have Kami fix their problems instead of using the Dragon Balls? Hell, you can't even use the excuse that he has those abilities but can't ethically use them because of his godhood. Why? The Great Elder is just a really old Namekian, not a god. And yet his Dragon Balls can do all kinds of shit. You'd think he would try to revive a few of those Namekians who died in the catastrophe, if only to stave off loneliness, right? Apparently he was fine all by himself. Or why couldn't give Nail immortality or a huge power boost or SOMETHING that would let him beat Freeza?
The "Shenlong can't do anything beyond the power of the dragon balls' creator" thing doesn't mean that Kami can do everything that Shenlong can do. Kami outright tells Goku that he can't bring people back from the dead and that they need to restore Shenlong to do so. It probably has more to do with the power a Namekian uses to create the balls in the first place; if we assume that they use magic to create them, then the more "magical power" the creator has, the less limits the wishes will have?

As for why they didn't just wish the pods to fly into suns or something...maybe there's more to it than just that. Maybe Shenlong still counts loopholes like that as causing the target's deaths, and that's beyond his power? I mean, if a genie tells you that you can't wish to kill someone, do you think he'd let you wish for a moon to fall on them? It's a bit cheeky.

Or it's just because the plot would be boring if the dragon balls solved everything. :o
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