Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sat May 29, 2010 6:58 pm

I just had a thought:
Will Toei give Funi the 2nd and the 3rd opening animations and the second ending since they didn't with Dragon Ball and if they do get the 2nd ending who would sing it? I reckon Stephanie Nadolny could since she sings in a rock band or the person who sang the Dragon Ball ending.

And another thing:
Does the big secret have anything to do with the next DVD or is it to do with the dub itself?

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Sat May 29, 2010 7:04 pm

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:I just had a thought:
Will Toei give Funi the 2nd and the 3rd opening animations and the second ending since they didn't with Dragon Ball and if they do get the 2nd ending who would sing it? I reckon Stephanie Nadolny could since she sings in a rock band or the person who sang the Dragon Ball ending.
I think they will get the 2nd OP and the song is still the same and still sing by Sean Schemmel.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by TripleRach » Sat May 29, 2010 8:43 pm

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:I just had a thought:
Will Toei give Funi the 2nd and the 3rd opening animations and the second ending since they didn't with Dragon Ball and if they do get the 2nd ending who would sing it? I reckon Stephanie Nadolny could since she sings in a rock band or the person who sang the Dragon Ball ending.
I think the problem with the alternate theme animations for Dragon Ball was the fact that FUNi didn't have textless versions available. Toei might not have even had them to give, since they weren't in the extras on the Japanese Dragon Box either. Since Kai is such a new show, Toei should easily still have textless versions of the theme animations to give out.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat May 29, 2010 8:57 pm

Oh man, the line where Goku is complaining about how his body feels like it's filled with lead on King Kai's planet is awesome. The way Schemmel says "DAMN!" is hilarious.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by RazorX » Sun May 30, 2010 9:00 pm

VegettoEX wrote:You're saying that they can recast one of their characters (Kaio) with someone else from their current pool of actors (Doc Morgan)... so... remind me why again they couldn't re-cast one of their characters (Freeza) with someone else from their current pool of actors...?
Because Kaio's Funi voice is grating, annoying and at times out of character. Frieza's voice is not out of character, its a different take from the Japanese version but both are cold and at times ruthless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKUwcqfJcuA#t=0m16s

Freeza's voice in that clip is deep enough and the acting is quite good, well, better than what you'd expect from Funimation.
It seems like you're just holding on to Linda Young for no apparent reason.
Nope. If Freeza is recast, the voice probably wont be deeper than what you hear in the clip above, and the acting probably wont be as good.

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Post by Chrono Trigger » Sun May 30, 2010 9:21 pm

Man if anybody is gonna attempt to defend Linda Young's Freeza then at least use clips from the redub.... :?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 30, 2010 9:28 pm

RazorX wrote:Freeza's voice in that clip is deep enough and the acting is quite good, well, better than what you'd expect from Funimation.
Season Three Fri­eza is your idea of "better than what you'd expect from FUNimation"? Somehow, I find that rather insulting of a statement.
Chrono Trigger wrote:Man if anybody is gonna attempt to defend Linda Young's Freeza then at least use clips from the redub....
Seriously. Season Three's Fri­eza was the bottom of the barrel in terms of the dub, in terms of both directing and acting. It just seems that saying that it was "better" than what most of the dub had to offer seems like an ignorant, or behind the times statement to make, because they have undoubtedly improved drastically since Season Three's dub.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 30, 2010 9:35 pm

RazorX wrote:Nope. If Freeza is recast, the voice probably wont be deeper than what you hear in the clip above, and the acting probably wont be as good.
FUNimation employs actual actors now, many with quite a bit of stage and on-camera work. Trust me, they can easily find a better Freeza.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 30, 2010 9:41 pm

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RazorX wrote:Nope. If Freeza is recast, the voice probably wont be deeper than what you hear in the clip above, and the acting probably wont be as good.
FUNimation employs actual actors now, many with quite a bit of stage and on-camera work. Trust me, they can easily find a better Freeza.
Yes, the FUNimation of today is not the same FUNimation of 1999. They may not be able to find a dead-ringer for Nakao, but they certainly can find a voice actor who can fit the character more closely in terms of acting and voice.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by RazorX » Sun May 30, 2010 10:49 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:Man if anybody is gonna attempt to defend Linda Young's Freeza then at least use clips from the redub.... :?
If you're referring to the Namek episodes that Funi redubbed after Ocean, that would negate the point about Frieza's deepened voice, since I'm trying to show that once the voice filter is applied, Frieza's voice is deep enough.
Metalwario64 wrote:Season Three Fri eza is your idea of "better than what you'd expect from FUNimation"? Somehow, I find that rather insulting of a statement.
IIRC, the voice in that clip is redubbed, its from the season sets with Japanese music.

However, in season 3, Frieza's voice was better than most of the other newcomers acting wise.
JulieYBM wrote:FUNimation employs actual actors now, many with quite a bit of stage and on-camera work. Trust me, they can easily find a better Freeza.
Not if Travis Willingham is their idea of a good replacement for Cell.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 30, 2010 10:51 pm

RazorX wrote:Not if Travis Willingham is their idea of a good replacement for Cell.
He's copying somebody else's voice. A new Freeza would likely not copy a voice.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by RazorX » Sun May 30, 2010 10:55 pm

JulieYBM wrote: He's copying somebody else's voice. A new Freeza would likely not copy a voice.
What if they get the new direction wrong? Its too late to be experimenting with a voice for a character which holds as much importance as Freeza.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by JulieYBM » Sun May 30, 2010 11:03 pm

RazorX wrote:
JulieYBM wrote: He's copying somebody else's voice. A new Freeza would likely not copy a voice.
What if they get the new direction wrong? Its too late to be experimenting with a voice for a character which holds as much importance as Freeza.
Assuming they're going through with it, they would do it with care. They did so with their other recasts (barring Cell, which I'm still hoping they seperate from Clarke's portrayal before it records).
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun May 30, 2010 11:06 pm

The reason Travis' performance is an imitation of Clarke's is because Clarke was unavailable, and they wanted the same general voice. If Fri­eza was recast, it wouldn't be due to Young's availability, but because they wanted to go in a different direction with it. I highly doubt they would cast an imitator when the real thing is readily available.
RazorX wrote:IIRC, the voice in that clip is redubbed, its from the season sets with Japanese music.

However, in season 3, Freeza's voice was better than most of the other newcomers acting wise.
No, not in that scene. Only a couple of form 2 and 3 Fri­eza lines were re-dubbed, most, if not all of the first form, and the first episode with his final form.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Sun May 30, 2010 11:41 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:No, not in that scene. Only a couple of form 2 and 3 Fri­eza lines were re-dubbed, most, if not all of the first form, and the first episode with his final form.
Actually I'm pretty sure Freeza is redubbed up until about 2 episodes into final form Freeza.

But still I'm all for a replacement and will never defend Young's Freeza.

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Mon May 31, 2010 6:36 am

Kind of off-track, but what happened to Dameon Clarke? Why would he get replaced? I liked his voice.

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Post by B » Mon May 31, 2010 7:50 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:Kind of off-track, but what happened to Dameon Clarke? Why would he get replaced? I liked his voice.
He moved to LA. I also hear he quit VAing, but I can't confirm that.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Kirbopher » Mon May 31, 2010 3:04 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:Yes, the FUNimation of today is not the same FUNimation of 1999. They may not be able to find a dead-ringer for Nakao, but they certainly can find a voice actor who can fit the character more closely in terms of acting and voice.
For a long time, Scott/Kaiser and I mulled how over anyone ever cast to dub over a character played by Ryuusei Nakao (i.e., not just Freeza) just flat-out either COULDN'T replicate the type of voice he has, or they'd opt out and try the shrill, sorta creepy, expected sort of scratchy voice (Mayuri Kurotsuchi, for instance) instead of trying to go for exactly what he sounds like...I was wrong, however.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Zach Logan » Mon May 31, 2010 3:48 pm

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TheGreatness25 wrote:Kind of off-track, but what happened to Dameon Clarke? Why would he get replaced? I liked his voice.
He moved to LA. I also hear he quit VAing, but I can't confirm that.
He's having a successful career doing some live-action acting in television and movies in Los Angeles.
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Post by Cipher » Mon May 31, 2010 6:15 pm

Kirbopher wrote:For a long time, Scott/Kaiser and I mulled how over anyone ever cast to dub over a character played by Ryuusei Nakao (i.e., not just Freeza) just flat-out either COULDN'T replicate the type of voice he has, or they'd opt out and try the shrill, sorta creepy, expected sort of scratchy voice (Mayuri Kurotsuchi, for instance) instead of trying to go for exactly what he sounds like...I was wrong, however.
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