You don't think Schemmel's current Goku is better than Kirby's Morrow's Goku?RazorX wrote: it's still not up there with Ocean's 3 Gokus.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Kirby's voice suits Goku far more than Sean's. Plus, Kirby is much better than Sean at light hearted moments, even when compared to Sean's Kai material. Sometimes Sean still comes off as forced but Kirby handles the scenes naturally. Kirby doesn't have that "cartoony" element that Sean seems to have. Although that has been reduced for Kai.penguintruth wrote:You don't think Schemmel's current Goku is better than Kirby's Morrow's Goku?RazorX wrote: it's still not up there with Ocean's 3 Gokus.
I don't know. I thought that Kirby Morrow's Goku sounds a little too collected and smooth. Like he's way too tranquil to be Goku. I love Kirby Morrow to death, but it's always jarring to hear him as Goku.
When I first heard his Cyclops in X Men Evolution, I immediately thought the voice is just like Goku, but less well acted. I don't watch X Men but I used to see some of it when it was on Cartoon Network, there's a character which sounds a lot like McNeil's Piccolo.Maybe I'm just so used to him as Van Flanel, Trowa Barton, and Miroku.
I'm with you on that. On top of that I hear Mikami too. As you said he's definitely a talented Voice Actor, he's just more miscast than the other English Goku's. I happen to like Schemmel's Goku at this point. I mean sure, Kirby could've improved if they weren't rushing to get everything out the door as soon as possible. But, I don't believe Mr. Corlett, Mr. Morrow or Mr. Kelamis are as good as Seán Schemmel's now. Is Seán's Goku perfect? Hell no. But, it's much better, acceptable in my opinion. and I'm so glad he'll never sound like his Season 3 performance ever again.penguintruth wrote:You don't think Schemmel's current Goku is better than Kirby's Morrow's Goku?RazorX wrote: it's still not up there with Ocean's 3 Gokus.
I don't know. I thought that Kirby Morrow's Goku sounds a little too collected and smooth. Like he's way too tranquil to be Goku. Kirby Morrow is a very talented VA, but it's always jarring to hear him as Goku. Maybe I'm just so used to him as Van Flanel, Trowa Barton, and Miroku.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
Alright, but MasakoX's Goku sounds like what it is; a parody fandub voice. Yes MasakoX's voice for Goku is better than a lot of fandub voices, but as it stands now, taking into account Sean's performance in Kai, all of the dub voices of Goku are much better than MasakoX's Goku.penguintruth wrote:I think I'm just going to write a blog entry about my official stances on Goku's voices and point to it every time I'm asked. So exhausted!
I guess that's what I get for having that thing in my signature.
If "Big Green", "Come Magic Cloud!" Goku is exempt from that list, then I agree.RazorX wrote:Alright, but MasakoX's Goku sounds like what it is; a parody fandub voice. Yes MasakoX's voice for Goku is better than a lot of fandub voices, but as it stands now, taking into account Sean's performance in Kai, all of the dub voices of Goku are much better than MasakoX's Goku.
Lol, that voice was a different take on the character than what Ocean or FUNi did.Metalwario64 wrote:If "Big Green", "Come Magic Cloud!" Goku is exempt from that list, then I agree.RazorX wrote:Alright, but MasakoX's Goku sounds like what it is; a parody fandub voice. Yes MasakoX's voice for Goku is better than a lot of fandub voices, but as it stands now, taking into account Sean's performance in Kai, all of the dub voices of Goku are much better than MasakoX's Goku.
Agreed. MasakoX can really portray the naive and light-hearted side of Gokū well, but really falls short when it comes to the angry and pissed off side of the character. He just doesn't have the intensity that Mr. Schemmel has in that role.RazorX wrote:Alright, but MasakoX's Goku sounds like what it is; a parody fandub voice. Yes MasakoX's voice for Goku is better than a lot of fandub voices, but as it stands now, taking into account Sean's performance in Kai, all of the dub voices of Goku are much better than MasakoX's Goku.penguintruth wrote:I think I'm just going to write a blog entry about my official stances on Goku's voices and point to it every time I'm asked. So exhausted!
I guess that's what I get for having that thing in my signature.
Not that MasakoX should be expected to be as good as any of the dub Gokus.
So this is what you look like when you hear Schemmel speak softly?JulieYBM wrote:
Anyhow, some quick thoughts: Schemmel's got a naturally rough voice. He lacks the ability to hide it without sounding forced. I grimmace every time I hear him try to speak softly, because it sounds completely unnatural.
Nothing can kill the Grimace.Sketch wrote:
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
The Grimace was originally introduced as an evil character, which is why he has that name. McDonald's later redesigned him and reintroduced him as a good character, but his old name stayed.penguintruth wrote:Nothing can kill the Grimace.Sketch wrote:
http://www.catsandbeer.com/wp-content/u ... rimace.jpg
(Which is a strange name for a character that's all smiles.)
Herms wrote: The DB wikai lists “Rolie Buu” as one of this form’s alternate name, though I have no clue who calls him that.
I don't think anything is ever going to live up to the awesomeness of this post.Blue wrote:Man Grimmace is in dire need of a recast. That clip exemplifies the classic voice work that used to go into each and every character. Then during season 3 they up and changed everyone's voice. They added cheesy "bouncy" kid music instead of the emotion swelling classic ballads we used to get. Don't get me started on the censorship they added to Grimmace's fat rolls. What's with this new "super hero" voice they gave Ronald? In that clip you've posted you can hear the fatherly charming side of him and then the actor changed and suddenly it's all "HEY EVERYONE RONALD HERE!!!11". Whatever I'm sick of talking to you newdonald fans. (Also I'm leaving this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzOcX8UL9U)
Erm...sorry.
I would like to hear Frasier Crane voice 4th form Freeza guys. Can we make this happen?
Appears being the key word, I too have issues with Sean's Goku, about as much as I do with Sabat's Vegeta. They're both uneven, with Sabat having a slight edge in the acting department. But then that may be because Sabat is voicing two of the most developed characters in Dragon Ball so he has a unfair advantage.RazorX wrote: I wouldn't praise Schemmel's Goku as much as Mr.Mark appears to be.
Exactly my point, why is it only "fairly decent" instead of, at the very least, "good"? What is Sean doing with Nail currently that only makes it fairly decent?penguintruth wrote:I've never had a problem with Schemmel's Nail, but it's not like it's a difficult role. It would be like praising whoever's doing Puar and/or Chaozu.
100% agreed with you here, Morrow may he been at least pleasant to listen too compared to Kelemis. But his voice was just completely wrong at all times for Son Goku compared to every other English Goku, way too mellow.penguintruth wrote:You don't think Schemmel's current Goku is better than Kirby's Morrow's Goku?RazorX wrote: it's still not up there with Ocean's 3 Gokus.
I don't know. I thought that Kirby Morrow's Goku sounds a little too collected and smooth. Like he's way too tranquil to be Goku. Kirby Morrow is a very talented VA, but it's always jarring to hear him as Goku. Maybe I'm just so used to him as Van Flanel, Trowa Barton, and Miroku.
A-fuckin-men.Mountain wrote:To me, it honestly sounds like people around here just love to play "mod". Well, no one's in charge of me. I'll discuss and/or argue whatever and whenever I want. What's the point of a discussion board if we're not allowed to have them? I thought the discussion was going just fine until a few of you started to chime in with your opinions on our conversation. I think that gets old, too. If it was seriously out of hand, then I'd understand. Otherwise, bite me. Whatever happened to "freedom of speech", anyhow?
Well, back on topic... before we were so rudely interrupted:
You do realize I wrote all of those lists off the top of my head, right? That's why there were always so many blank slots.Sketch wrote:
Though considering your dream cast list had Kara Edwards the dub voice of Goten in Z voicing all the males of the Son family I'm really having hard time taking your tastes in Goku voices seriously.
Ah... the old Goku voice debate. Well I don't really know which one is my favorite. I kind of don't like any of the voices for Goku I've heard. Each one has something about it that rubs me wrong. I'm speaking strictly about adult Son Goku however. Really I more or less tolerate all of them so that I can continue enjoying the show in whichever language I'm watching it in at the time.
None of them seem all that natural to me.
My ideal Goku would be a tenor rage male who had a bit of bite for when he got angry but sounded naturally peppy. You've got to be able to be happy go lucky and deadly serious without either sounding unnatural. Not too many good candidates come to mind if any at all. Though I know some amateur VAs who I think could do an admirable job with the role.
She/Her 
I honestly read that post a good 2/3 times wonder what the heck you were talking about....Blue wrote:Man Grimmace is in dire need of a recast. That clip exemplifies the classic voice work that used to go into each and every character. Then during season 3 they up and changed everyone's voice. They added cheesy "bouncy" kid music instead of the emotion swelling classic ballads we used to get. Don't get me started on the censorship they added to Grimmace's fat rolls. What's with this new "super hero" voice they gave Ronald? In that clip you've posted you can hear the fatherly charming side of him and then the actor changed and suddenly it's all "HEY EVERYONE RONALD HERE!!!11". Whatever I'm sick of talking to you newdonald fans. (Also I'm leaving this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzOcX8UL9U)
Erm...sorry.
I would like to hear Frasier Crane voice 4th form Freeza guys. Can we make this happen?
Rocketman(In response to a post about Pandora's Box) wrote: I sat here for ten damn minutes wondering what the hell God of War had to do with any of this.
Youtube | Art/Animation BlogInsertclevername wrote:I plan to lose my virginity to Dragon Box 2.
Not so much actually.MR.Mark wrote:Since we all love Masako Nozawa so much
... Todd Haberkorn, maybe? Or just, a talented male VA who's got a very good control over his higher ranges?Sketch wrote:Not so much actually.MR.Mark wrote:Since we all love Masako Nozawa so much
While I do believe Jacob that Colleen would be a much better choice than Kara Edwards to voice the males of the entire Son family. I wouldn't believe her as an adult male beyond their teens (ie, Luffy). I wouldn't even want her to voice Gohan in high school much less as an adult at the end of Z. Colleen is great for Luffy and good for kid Gohan but adult Goku? I'd find that much less appealing than even Schemmel's less than stellar performances.
Somewhere out there the appropriate English speaking Goku exists. We've just yet to find that person. Mostly because FUNimation stopped looking.
