"DragonBall Z Kai" TV Broadcast Talkback

[Cowboy Dev]

I wonder if, so they could match up to the way the Japanese did it, if Colleen Clinkenbeard could the entire Son family? She is already perfect as Son Gohan and what we heard of young Son Goku she is amazing in that role. What do you guys think?

Perhaps if they redubbed all of Goku's dialouge with Clinkenbeard and for the heck of it Rial for Bulma's dialouge in say, an American release of the Dragon Ball Box? I would not only buy it, I would also write a thank you letter to FUNimation telling them all is forgiven for the fifteen years of abuse to their flagship title. Something to that effect.

[Innagadadavida]

I wonder if, so they could match up to the way the Japanese did it, if Colleen Clinkenbeard could the entire Son family? She is already perfect as Son Gohan and what we heard of young Son Goku she is amazing in that role. What do you guys think?

What have we heard? A couple of grunts from the flashback in episode one of Kai? I don't believe you can determine that she is "amazing" from that. I don't doubt her acting abilities. But, for one, I don't want the same person voicing Luffy and Goku (that's just unsettling, they're already practically the same character)

DB Origins 2 lists Nadolny as Goku, right? When those redubs of movies 1-3 come out, they better frickin' have Nadolny as Goku. Not only for consistency with the TV Series, but because that's the only way I'll buy it. You can blame nostalgia all you want, I won't deny it. Stephany Nadolny is Goku. She never fit Gohan, but Goku is a completely different story. I ran home from the bus stop every day in '02/03 to watch Dragon Ball on Toonami. That is who I heard. I never questioned the casting decision, not once in my life. That is who is permanently ingrained in my psyche. If I'm watching an English production of Dragon Ball, and I don't hear Stephany Nadolny, I just turn it off.

Without her, it's just not for me. Not in English.

[Cowboy Dev]

I wonder if, so they could match up to the way the Japanese did it, if Colleen Clinkenbeard could the entire Son family? She is already perfect as Son Gohan and what we heard of young Son Goku she is amazing in that role. What do you guys think?

What have we heard? A couple of grunts from the flashback in episode one of Kai? I don't believe you can determine that she is "amazing" from that. I don't doubt her acting abilities. But, for one, I don't want the same person voicing Luffy and Goku (that's just unsettling, they're already practically the same character)

DB Origins 2 lists Nadolny as Goku, right? When those redubs of movies 1-3 come out, they better frickin' have Nadolny as Goku. Not only for consistency with the TV Series, but because that's the only way I'll buy it. You can blame nostalgia all you want, I won't deny it. Stephany Nadolny is Goku. She never fit Gohan, but Goku is a completely different story. I ran home from the bus stop every day in '02/03 to watch Dragon Ball on Toonami. That is who I heard. I never questioned the casting decision, not once in my life. That is who is permanently ingrained in my psyche. If I'm watching an English production of Dragon Ball, and I don't hear Stephany Nadolny, I just turn it off.

Without her, it's just not for me. Not in English.

I somewhat agree with that. I liked her Goku when I was a kid, but as I've gotten older I'm now so-so with the performance.
I mainly want Clinkenbeard as Goku for the same reason I want her as Goten as well; to play all the Son males as boys and because she's my favorite dub young Gohan and I think she's talented enough to put her own take on the other two.

[JulieYBM]

I must mildly disagree on the subject of Gokû and Luffy being the same. While I would like to avoid the two sharing the same voice actor, the use of Clinkenbeard as Gohan has already practically shattered that seperation. What's more Clinkenbeard is already the official new Gokû for FUNimation, there's little getting around it at this point. Getting back to the Gokû and Luffy being different there is actually a very critical character trait that seperates Gokû from Luffy, or rather Luffy from Gokû. Without getting too enveloped in spoiler territory, Luffy is needy. Gokû has obviously shown to be a free spirit of sorts, but Luffy (espicially as we've learned over the past two or so years of the comic) is bound by his ties. It will be Clinkenbeard's ability to perform Luffy's vulnerability that will ultimately seperate her Luffy from her Gokû. Judging by her Gohan, though, that won't be too hard for her.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I wonder if, so they could match up to the way the Japanese did it, if Colleen Clinkenbeard could the entire Son family? She is already perfect as Son Gohan and what we heard of young Son Goku she is amazing in that role. What do you guys think?

What have we heard? A couple of grunts from the flashback in episode one of Kai? I don't believe you can determine that she is "amazing" from that. I don't doubt her acting abilities. But, for one, I don't want the same person voicing Luffy and Goku (that's just unsettling, they're already practically the same character)

DB Origins 2 lists Nadolny as Goku, right? When those redubs of movies 1-3 come out, they better frickin' have Nadolny as Goku. Not only for consistency with the TV Series, but because that's the only way I'll buy it. You can blame nostalgia all you want, I won't deny it. Stephany Nadolny is Goku. She never fit Gohan, but Goku is a completely different story. I ran home from the bus stop every day in '02/03 to watch Dragon Ball on Toonami. That is who I heard. I never questioned the casting decision, not once in my life. That is who is permanently ingrained in my psyche. If I'm watching an English production of Dragon Ball, and I don't hear Stephany Nadolny, I just turn it off.

Without her, it's just not for me. Not in English.

I agree completely with you there, Inna. The way she portrays Kid Gokū is unparalleled. The way she captures the character's curiousness and naivety is extremely believable and funny at times. If FUNimation ever gets around to redubbing the movies, they should cast Stephaine Nadolny as Kid Gokū again. Not only for consistency's sake, but also because she is best suited for the role.

[Innagadadavida]

What's more Clinkenbeard is already the official new Gokû for FUNimation, there's little getting around it at this point.

Can you please point me to a source for this? When did FUNimation ever claim Clinkenbeard to be the official new voice actor for Goku? I don't buy it. She did a few grunts and a laugh in ONE flashback. There was no need to bring in Stephanie for that.

Also, have you noticed how you're the only person who uses accents on the names? It's obnoxious.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Also, have you noticed how you're the only person who uses accents on the names? It's obnoxious.

I do too. Just sayin'.

[Innagadadavida]

Also, have you noticed how you're the only person who uses accents on the names? It's obnoxious.

I do too. Just sayin'.

What is the point in going through the extra effort? Really. Everybody will know what you mean if you just do it normally. Nobody looks at it and pronounces it like the way you want. They filter it out. It's absolutely entirely pointless. So what are you trying to achieve?

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Also, have you noticed how you're the only person who uses accents on the names? It's obnoxious.

I do too. Just sayin'.

What is the point in going through the extra effort? Really. Everybody will know what you mean if you just do it normally. Nobody looks at it and pronounces it like the way you want. They filter it out. It's absolutely entirely pointless. So what are you trying to achieve?

You cannot say "just write it normally", because there is more than one correct way to write the character name. Just because you write it a specific way, it doesn't make the "normal" way.

[linkdude20002001]

Agreed. I write it Gokuh, and it's correct as well. It should not bother you as long as it's an accurate romanization. I mean, it's not like we're going around using Tien instead of Tenshinhan, or something obnoxious like that.

[Innagadadavida]

You cannot say "just write it normally", because there is more than one correct way to write the character name. Just because you write it a specific way, it doesn't make the "normal" way.

I'm not talking about names. I'm talking about writing in a way that isn't pretentious. Accents in words that do not need it is annoying and obnoxious. Especially when everyone else gets along fine without using it.

Using Tien isn't obnoxious. That's his official English dub name. It's more ignorance than obnoxious. If someone went around circumventing the word filter just to refer to the character, that would be obnoxious.

I love that everyone has their own naming conventions. I just find it incredibly irritating when somebody goes to the effort to include an accented character in an informal environment like this. I'd also raise an eyebrow if someone wore a tuxedo to a slumber party.

[obiwan23s]

You cannot say "just write it normally", because there is more than one correct way to write the character name. Just because you write it a specific way, it doesn't make the "normal" way.

I'm not talking about names. I'm talking about writing in a way that isn't pretentious. Accents in words that do not need it is annoying and obnoxious. Especially when everyone else gets along fine without using it.

Using Tien isn't obnoxious. That's his official English dub name. It's more ignorance than obnoxious. If someone went around circumventing the word filter just to refer to the character, that would be obnoxious.

Viz did that romanization notation on vowels throughout the whole manga if I'm not mistaken, so someone more familiar with that version of the story is going to be used to seeing the names that way. I don't see what's the big deal, as many versions and translations of Dragon Ball as there are doesn't mean everyone is going to go by one universal set.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I'm talking about writing in a way that isn't pretentious.

Oh, I see what this is about. This is about you thinking that I put macrons over some Japanese words because I want to seem like a more hardcore fan or something. Lots of people do it. Grow up.

Accents in words that do not need it is annoying and obnoxious.

I don't use macrons wherever or whenever I feel like it. I use them to indicate long vowels in Japanese words. For your information, Goku and Gokū wouldn't be pronounced the same way.

Especially when everyone else gets along fine without using it.

Again with these generalizations. A lot of people use them, you know. Maybe not on these specific forums, but on the internet in general.

[Metalwario64]

For your information, Goku and Gokū wouldn't be pronounced the same way.

Yeah, accents were a real bitch for me at first when I started taking French classes in high-school.

[Innagadadavida]

Yeah, maybe I have a wild hair up my ass. I still feel like its unnecessary, but I should have kept it to myself.

[Ashy-kun]

I'd also raise an eyebrow if someone wore a tuxedo to a slumber party.

As someone who dresses quite casually in waistcoats and such other supposed "posh" items, I take offence to that.

[JulieYBM]

What's more Clinkenbeard is already the official new Gokû for FUNimation, there's little getting around it at this point.

Can you please point me to a source for this? When did FUNimation ever claim Clinkenbeard to be the official new voice actor for Goku? I don't buy it. She did a few grunts and a laugh in ONE flashback. There was no need to bring in Stephanie for that.

Also, have you noticed how you're the only person who uses accents on the names? It's obnoxious.

I seriously doubt that relations between FUNimation and Nadolny are going to be solid after recasting her as Gohan, her first role in anime and pretty much the only role she was doing (barring the occasional child Gokû). We're led to believe in this series of panel videos that the recast was done because Nadolny isn't very involved with voice acting and that it was just easier for FUNimation to use an actress who practically lived at FUNimation (thus the casting of Clinkenbeard). Sabat's (unintended?) backhanded remarks about 'the previous voice' aside, it looks like FUNimation pulled a 1999 on fans again. From what I understand the recordings for Dragon Ball DS 2 are just reused dialogue (a cheaper route to take), so should not be taken as a clear marking that Nadolny (and subsequently Vollmer) would return.


As for my use of accent marks: I find it fun. Yes, I get some small personal enjoyment out of seeing circumflexes (or in the case of Pokémon, 'é'). It also helps me memorize the spellings of certain keywords in case the occasion evers arrives that such knowledge is needed and I am available. I have the luxury of doing something fun that has no negative reprocussions on anyone else, so I'm going to do it. It's right up there with using proper English on message boards, Tweets, and IMing (or setting out to do so). It lends to an intended sense of professionalism in the way I communicate (not that I don't make really stupid errors at times, but I do fix them if I catch them).

[Cowboy Dev]

Yeah, it would just seem weird that Clinkenbeard was only doing the character's for Kai. With all due respect to Nadlony's fans, I think the latest, already recorded video games are the last were going to hear of her Goku and Gohan. That includes Tiffany Vollmer as Bulma.

[penguintruth]

So we've gone to arguing over the best voice for Goku to where/if to put an accent mark on the name?

For the record, I think Naldony was a decent voice for kid Goku, mostly because it was sort of different from her Gohan, but hardly indispensible.

[Innagadadavida]

I seriously doubt that relations between FUNimation and Nadolny are going to be solid after recasting her as Gohan, her first role in anime and pretty much the only role she was doing (barring the occasional child Gokû). We're led to believe in this series of panel videos that the recast was done because Nadolny isn't very involved with voice acting and that it was just easier for FUNimation to use an actress who practically lived at FUNimation (thus the casting of Clinkenbeard). Sabat's (unintended?) backhanded remarks about 'the previous voice' aside, it looks like FUNimation pulled a 1999 on fans again. From what I understand the recordings for Dragon Ball DS 2 are just reused dialogue (a cheaper route to take), so should not be taken as a clear marking that Nadolny (and subsequently Vollmer) would return.

It is a completely different case with Goku. Gohan may have been a main character, but he has never had the same spotlight as Goku. Goku was in every episode of Dragon Ball, he was the main focus through the entire series. He has been consistently voiced by the same actress through the entire run of the TV series (both Dragon Ball and GT) and one movie. Whereas Gohan has had a few. Not only that, but fans have never praised her Gohan the way they do her Goku. FUNimation is in touch with their fans, they know what is up. And seeing as how they shipped Nadonly in to record for Dragon Ball Origins 2, I don't think she's going anywhere.