Inconsistency? (Cell Regeneration)

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Post by Gamingdevil » Wed May 25, 2005 3:53 pm

waw, what a coincidence that of all the cells, exactly the nucleas survived that enourmous explosion that obliterated Goku and King Kai completely :roll:
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Post by Pilgrim Sun » Wed May 25, 2005 4:48 pm

Well going with my theory that this cell is just a regular cell that makes up the rest of him, then it would work because this nucleus is found in every cell. So it would not matter which cell survives.

Its not much of a coicidence because there are thousands of billions of cells in the body and the survival of one is not that irregular. The obliteration of Goku and King Kai does not matter because they do not have the ability to regenerate.

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Post by tarsonis » Wed May 25, 2005 5:14 pm

His cells, or at the very least the nucleus, are probably self-replicating and contain the programming necessary to remember how to recreate the rest of the body.

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Post by Pilgrim Sun » Wed May 25, 2005 5:23 pm

It just hit me...

Every cell has the ability to regenerate, thats why all your cuts heal up and you get 'dead skin'. Again, this is constant in the human body but this is obviously different in the Namekians and Cell, this is probably because the Namekians regenerate much faster so to put this entire theory simply, Cell's cells just duplicate (Cells split and become two) much faster.

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Post by Gamingdevil » Thu May 26, 2005 2:00 am

Indeed you are right, our body is in constant motion and every day millions of cells die and millions of cells are born.
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Post by Pilgrim Sun » Thu May 26, 2005 9:31 am

Exactly, so Cell must be able to regenerate just like that exept on a larger scale and in a much faster time.

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Post by Bejiita » Thu May 26, 2005 12:05 pm

Pilgrim Sun wrote:Well going with my theory that this cell is just a regular cell that makes up the rest of him, then it would work because this nucleus is found in every cell. So it would not matter which cell survives.

Its not much of a coicidence because there are thousands of billions of cells in the body and the survival of one is not that irregular. The obliteration of Goku and King Kai does not matter because they do not have the ability to regenerate.
This is the post I was lokking to find before posting it myself.

There's no 'The nucleus'.

Every cell has a nucleus, and if only half of he's body was removed then regeneration was easily possible, even if piccolo can't regenerate if he's head is damaged. Cell's cells all have a life of there own, so even if a piece of he's finger remained he could reform in time. Since he was in space when he he reformed, there was no disturbance and he done it with ease.

Gohan's Final Kamehameha desintegrated him completely, and it even showed the very last pink cell being dissolved. Just to show that no more cells remained.

So no plot hole, no mysteries, Toriyama wouldn't have done such a blatant error in he's manga like that, he always tries to make things logical.

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Post by El_Diablo » Thu May 26, 2005 12:57 pm

He points at his head. Referring to a nucleus which needs to survive. What else is there?
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Post by Fuujin » Thu May 26, 2005 1:00 pm

Um... no he doesn't.

It's nice you're trying to apply real-world biology and logic, but Cell is just a different type of spieces. His body is made of cells, of course, but it also appears to be build in a manner similar to a single cell. Aside from nuclei in each cell, he has a large organ called "nucleus" and so on. Besides, look at the flash back when he's regenerating, you can clearly see that this blob floating in space can't possibly be a random nucleus from one of his cells, it's too big.

Why am I writing all this anyway? A quote from Polish manga would just as easily prove my point.

"I have a lump in my head that you could call the nucleus of my whole body. If it remains undamaged, I can regenerate."
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Post by Gamingdevil » Sat May 28, 2005 3:36 pm

I've been thinking about it for a while now and I'm positive that the nucleus is in fact the core of every cell.
Even if Toriyama thought it over, it still remains rather vage to me that not one cell of the upper body survived when Goku blasted him, thus creating 2 Cells.
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Post by Vaeran » Sat May 28, 2005 4:01 pm

If more than one cell had survived, they probably would have joined together during the regeneration process, rather than independently forming into multiple Cells. Cell wants to be the single supreme life form in existence; I doubt he'd be interested in being tied-for-first with himself.

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Post by Gamingdevil » Sun May 29, 2005 3:16 am

True, but how would the cells find each other, after say one was blasted far away with no chance of knowing the other part survived. Now don't say magnetism, because Cell is bio-chemical and magnetism only works on some kinds of metal (I know them all in Dutch, but I can only say iron in English)
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Post by Xyex » Sun May 29, 2005 6:03 am

True, but how would the cells find each other, after say one was blasted far away with no chance of knowing the other part survived.
They could just be attracted to each other in some fasion. Not unheard of, as Buu's the same way. Granted he reformed into many little Buus twice (at least) but most of the time he just gathered into one clump and then reformed. True, he's got a bit more control over the missing parts of his body, but still...
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Post by Fuujin » Sun May 29, 2005 6:23 am

- Don't try to apply logic to DBZ. It's impossible. Instead, try and realise the truth.
- What truth?
- The is no logic.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun May 29, 2005 11:34 am

Fuujin wrote:- Don't try to apply logic to DBZ. It's impossible. Instead, try and realise the truth.
- What truth?
- There is no logic.
Woah.


Anyway, about the real world comparisons, I'm pretty sure real life cells can't regenerate from only a nucleus.

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Post by Gamingdevil » Sun May 29, 2005 12:38 pm

Real-life cells can't regenerate, one cell just starts dividing into another and then they both divide into 2 and so on...
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