The video quality of Dragon Box spoil anyone else?

[jjgp1112]

Dragon Ball has received a Blu-Ray release. Dragon Ball Z Kai.

Plus, isn't YuYu Hakusho shorter and newer? Dragon Ball was a huge show, and the production team probably had a lot of scraps to get rid of when any given episode was finished. It's very possible and has been brought up before that Toei may not have kept the best of the best resources after finishing episodes of Dragon Ball. Too much space, too expensive... Kei17 posted some interesting topics on the issue:

Accuracy of Dragon Box Colors
Better Audio on TV Run
35mm Film Masters for DBZ Episodes 73-80

I'm serious about those 35mm Negative film masters for those episodes. Check them out on your Dragon Boxes... Compare them to episode 72 and 81. The difference in clarity, crispness, and jitter-free-ness is astounding. If I could post some screencaps, I would. Anyway, with shorter shows like YuYu Hakusho, they may have had the capabilities to keep better quality footage. It may be possible that Dragon Ball Z can never look that good in High Def.

I can help you with that!

[Innagadadavida]

Nice! That's a comparison of the episode and the preview on the next one, right? In motion there is also almost no noticeable jitter.

[jjgp1112]

Nope. The darker looking scene was actually recycled animation from the previous episode (the brighter one). The brighter ones are from the end of episode 80, while the darker ones were from the beginning of episode 81.

[Innagadadavida]

Wait.... What? Okay, so it's a recap? What do you mean by "recycled animation?"

[jjgp1112]

Wait.... What? Okay, so it's a recap? What do you mean by "recycled animation?"

At the beginning of the episode 81, after the recap, they recycled the scene from the end of episode 80 using the same animation.

[Kunzait_83]

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[TonyTheTiger]

Plus, isn't YuYu Hakusho shorter and newer?

Shorter than Dragon Ball/Z? Most definitely yes. Short in general and in itself? I'd hardly call anything clocking in at 112 episodes "short".

You have no idea how much DBZ has skewed my perception of length. Now whenever I hear about a show going "only" 150 episodes or less I'm like "that's not too bad."

Oddly enough, it's only Dragon Ball that did this to me. Probably because it's not episodic and tends to move painfully slowly at times. The super long running shows like The Simpsons never had the same effect. Probably because there's less of a need to watch multiple Simpsons episodes in a row. Dragon Ball episodes are independently not informative enough.

[baragon_kun]

This is asinine and ignorant. It's not an entire country making these decisions. I guarantee you there are people in Japan who believe using DVNR is a good idea, and people in the United States who believe it's not. Quit limiting entire countries to beliefs you perceive the majority to be. And quit parroting ideas you've heard without doing any research or personally evaluating the situation.

If somebody doesn't like grain, they don't fucking like grain. That's their opinion. They're not wrong. You're not right. And vice versa. Obviously enough people felt it was a hinderence or DVNR wouldn't exist and/or be used. Don't act like it's ruining something because it's artificial or whatever. Digital, DVNR, analog, film, grain. They're all inventions by human beings, designed for entertainment purposes. None of it is real. None of it is more authentic than the others.

That seems to be defensiveness shrouded in dismissiveness. And it's very silly of you.

Are there probably people in Japan who think heavy DVNR is good? Of course. At the same time...

Look at the kinds of remasterings that anime gets in Japan in recent history. Take a large, sweeping look at it. Look at the Macross Plus remaster. Look at the Cowboy Bebop remaster. Look at the Utena remaster. What do you see in those? Bright, bold colors. Progressive transfers. And what's that? Oh, right -- a hint of the film that's inherently a part of the image .

(I'd be happy to provide example screen shots of any of those, by the way...)

As a whole, it definitely seems that Japan is taking a different approach with it -- it's a generalization, but generalizations exist for a reason (usually because there's some basis in reality).

I don't understand your attitude of running in, arms waving, saying the conversation is asinine, and then concluding by saying you don't even care. Yes, you do care. You responded for a reason, and it's not just because you don't like stupid things. It got under your skin for some reason, and you don't like how it makes you feel... right?

Dont forget about the Card Captor Sakura Series Remaster and Fist of the North Star 1986 Movie Remaster.

[Rory]

So? The quality of Blu-Rays is superior to the quality of DVDs. Nerds will want their favourite cartoons shows looking as good as possible. C'mon FUNi, DBZ and Yū Yū Hakusho for Blu-Ray!

What about Naruto, Yu-Gi-Oh!, Slam Dunk and etc?

Eh, I'm not really fussed about Naruto and Yu-Gi-Oh!, since they're relatively new shows. I know next to nothing about Slam Dunk, though.

Yu-Gi-Oh!'s anime adaptation is twelve years old now, Naruto's is also 8 years old (Jesus fucking Christ!) I wouldn't really call either "new" at all.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

It's the first series that's twelve years old but the second one is ten years old.

[Castor Troy]

Considering the pic on the left was actually considered "great" quality back in 1999, I'm definitely more than spoiled by it.

[Budogenkai]

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Considering the pic on the left was actually considered "great" quality back in 1999, I'm definitely more than spoiled by it.

Holy..

Oh and the YYH Blu-Ray's do looks really awesome. I can hope that someday there will be less fear of reverse importing and FUNi will release it here.

[Metalwario64]

the pic on the left was actually considered "great" quality back in 1999, I'm definitely more than spoiled by it.

Those certainly were the good ol' days!

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Yu-Gi-Oh!'s anime adaptation is twelve years old now, Naruto's is also 8 years old (Jesus fucking Christ!) I wouldn't really call either "new" at all.

I said relatively new. That is, in comparison to Dragon Ball. Plus, I was thinking of Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters, not the original Yu-Gi-Oh!, when I made that statement.

[SonGokuGT]

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Considering the pic on the left was actually considered "great" quality back in 1999, I'm definitely more than spoiled by it.

Holy..

Oh and the YYH Blu-Ray's do looks really awesome. I can hope that someday there will be less fear of reverse importing and FUNi will release it here.

Or maybe Japanese companies will decide to offer REASONABLE pricing on their DVD's and Blu-rays...

[Innagadadavida]

Or maybe Japanese companies will decide to offer REASONABLE pricing on their DVD's and Blu-rays...

If they did that then they wouldn't put out expensive remastering projects like the Dragon Boxes. And then we (as in the rest of the world) wouldn't in turn get that same footage for ridiculously reasonable prices.

[bkev]

OVAs with one episode can go for $50 a pop, Inna. It's not just the remastering that does it.

[Rory]

Yu-Gi-Oh!'s anime adaptation is twelve years old now, Naruto's is also 8 years old (Jesus fucking Christ!) I wouldn't really call either "new" at all.

I said relatively new. That is, in comparison to Dragon Ball. Plus, I was thinking of Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters, not the original Yu-Gi-Oh!, when I made that statement.

I can see where you're coming from in that case, especially in comparison to Dragon Ball.
Still, uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! Blu-Rays would make me moist.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

Still, uncut Yu-Gi-Oh! Blu-Rays would make me moist.

Same, but as long as Yu-Gi-Oh! is in 4kids' hands, that is unlikely to happen.

[Puto]

New Yu-Gi-Oh! releases with Japanese audio won't happen, period. The license to use Yugi's VA's voice expired and the Japanese company chose not to renew it. This is also why 4Kids' subtitled Yu-Gi-Oh project had to be cancelled.