Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

[OutlawTorn]

Actually, before the first US Dragon Box came out, I remember reading that Kyle Hebert said the episode previews were being dubbed. Did FUNi change their minds, or was that also just a silly rumour?

Did Kyle Hebert actually say that? I could have sworn it was actually somebody else bringing it up to Kyle and his response was something along the lines of "There's more for the narrator to say?" I don't ever remember there being any statement that the previews were, in fact, being dubbed.

[NEG]

why then should the site review and indeed judge content and stuff that is released outside of Japan or outside the Japanese language if that is not the "focus" of the website

I'm guessing it's 'cause.. y'know, they're from America. Therefore they buy the American products... and review them.
The American releases have a Japanese language track + subtitles too ya know.

That about sums it up. Emphasis on all of these products (for the most part) have the original Japanese version on them... which is what we cover. Furthermore, we don't cover only American products -- we cover plenty of products straight from Japan.

I was fine enough to let this pass and fade since I figured (along with my end point being already made), at the end of the day, it isn't worth arguing about it further when the majority of the community may support it. Plus my head going "its generally a great freaking site/podcast, don't let the annoying bias get you down, we're all loving the same thing essentially at the end of the day, dragon ball news and content, the forum should not be subject to the enjoyment of said news, let them have their spelling epeen-o-rama"

But since it was answered.

If the sites focus is primarily on the Japanese content, but "accepts" (judging from the response) the fact that other territories "EXIST" (and thats the key word here) because of American/Worldwide releases of Dragon Ball content/merchandise being reviewed/talked about, then surely with that acceptance it would make sense not to region-lock specific spelling onto the fan community?

Because only if the site were to truly ignore every dub/toy/cake/underwear around the world outside of Japan with not the correct spelling, voice, text font, and lacking a Toriyama seal of approval on it, would this forum justify a spelling filter. To stick with "the original".

My only plea were to have been to make the forum vote on words in the filter, or having the filter at all, at least once every few years (if it remains). If indeed as a earlier poster suggested that there is a number of folk who dislike the filter, you might be surprised to find the community the site deems to cater to dislikes forced region fandom on the forum just as much.






I really shouldn't particularly care that much, I mean sure it is annoying (just as much as it may annoy to others seeing it spelt another way) but thats due to us all being geeks about this stuff I guess. I just wanted to generate some sense of "fairness" in regards to being able to spell a characters name how some may want to, due to there being nothing wrong with that spelling.

Thanks for the time given reading.

PS. What next, is there a Sonic The Hedgehog forum out there that filters Dr Robotnik into Dr Eggman? Oh wait sorry, Sonikku*

PPS. I kid, I kid.

[NEG]

Whoever posted the ECI stuff (seems to be gone now), thanks. That solves the other mystery.

[Metalwario64]

PS. What next, is there a Sonic The Hedgehog forum out there that filters Dr Robotnik into Dr Eggman? Oh wait sorry, Sonikku

Sonic 1 actually came out in America before Japan, so technically his real name is Robotnik.

Also, the name filter doesn't change names into romanizations. That would be entirely counterproductive, and would not achieve the goal of the filter, which is to change terms which were entirely changed in FUNimation's dub, or are just incorrect in general, into more accurate, universal terms. Terms like "Herc­ule" and "Ti­en", which were completely different from their Japanese counterparts. Even the popular in Japan "Go­kou" is filtered, so it's not just dub terms, which may explain why terms like "Turl­es" are also filtered, even though it wasn't an actual FUNimation change, just a really off adaptation like the aforementioned "Gok­ou", which is used all over Japan.

It's not about being as Japanese as possible, its about being as accurate as possible, as to avoid confusion amongst fans from other regions who are unaware of FUNimation's alterations (which has genuinely led to some confusion on this forum at times).

[Super Sayian Prime]

Whoever posted the ECI stuff (seems to be gone now), thanks. That solves the other mystery.

I honestly don't know what happened to that post. Wasn't me, haha.

Anyways, basically I said that BCI was a sister company of Funimation (BCI was shut down in 2008). So it was likely that both companies parent, Navarre, stuffed BCI inserts to draw a new audience into their nostalgic animation, martial arts movies, and mixed martial arts sets. I say this because my season 2 set came with a BCI insert (my season 2 set is also slightly off colour compared to the rest).

[Innagadadavida]

It's not about being as Japanese as possible, its about being as accurate as possible, as to avoid confusion amongst fans from other regions who are unaware of FUNimation's alterations (which has genuinely led to some confusion on this forum at times).

This goal can be achieved without forcing others to use the terms that a select few want them to use. And I'd wager that the times confusion and frustration occurs when one is filtered (when, for example, trying to discuss different adaptations), far outweigh the times when one would be legitimately confused when different spellings/name changes are posted.

The word filter is stupid. I hate it.

[Metalwario64]

This goal can be achieved without forcing others to use the terms that a select few want them to use. And I'd wager that the times confusion and frustration occurs when one is filtered (when, for example, trying to discuss different adaptations), far outweigh the times when one would be legitimately confused when different spellings/name changes are posted.

Yeah, I understand. I'm trying to say that the filter is aiming for that, not that it necessarily achieves it (if I implied that, then it's poor wording on my part). I am not entirely sure on how I feel about it, because I generally go around it when I need to, but I know there are people who don't know how to do so, and for them it's confusing, and can feel almost oppressive in a way.

On the other hand, you could just tell them to go to a more dub based site like FUNimation's forum and whatnot, but on the other side of that, why would you want to drive people away from Daizenshuu EX over a word filter? I'm pretty torn on it. I mean, it sounds like a good idea, to have one universal set of terms that everyone can understand and discuss with each other, and it has gotten me to use "Tenshinhan" over "Ti­en", but I don't think it actually does what it's intended to sometimes, when fans of FUNimation's dub come here wondering why their terms are being altered... Not only that, but the "go to another forum" card people have touted doesn't sit with me that well either. On the other hand, the rules page does indeed state that the Japanese version is the primary focus here.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

My only plea were to have been to make the forum vote on words in the filter, or having the filter at all, at least once every few years (if it remains). If indeed as a earlier poster suggested that there is a number of folk who dislike the filter, you might be surprised to find the community the site deems to cater to dislikes forced region fandom on the forum just as much.

I second this. The filter was asked for by Daizex users a while ago. Since then, a lot of new members have joined (including me). So why not make it fair for these new users to have their say?

[Puto]

PS. What next, is there a Sonic The Hedgehog forum out there that filters Dr Robotnik into Dr Eggman?

Just minor nitpicking, but just wanted to say that the name "Robotnik" was made canon in Japanese continuity, starting with Sonic Adventure 2, with "Eggman" becoming a nickname that everybody uses (including himself).

[Kendamu]

You guys are still on this? Really, why is it such a big deal to spell it the way some random dub spells it? Sure, the US gives a lot of money to Dragonball, but we're still just a country with some random dub. I like the notion of there being some universality in the names used here because it's not just Americans who post here.

[ShadowDude112]

Off Topic:Can we filter love to lesbians?

On Topic:...Uh. I dunno I just wanna to speak my mind in the off topic section of my post.

[NEG]

PS. What next, is there a Sonic The Hedgehog forum out there that filters Dr Robotnik into Dr Eggman?

Just minor nitpicking, but just wanted to say that the name "Robotnik" was made canon in Japanese continuity, starting with Sonic Adventure 2, with "Eggman" becoming a nickname that everybody uses (including himself).

This was in my post initially, but figured if I mentioned it the example would somehow get the impression the "outside Japan" DB names are un-official due to not being mentioned "in Japan". Which is not the case/goes against my "names being different and thats ok" argument.

Dr Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik would indeed technically be the name for all regions since SA2, but past the Sonic Advance 1 manual (which was....2002/3?) the Robotnik name has not been used in any game or material since (might have been mentioned when they covered the SA2 story in Sonic X, I don't know). Essentially killing off the western name fans grew used to for over 10+ years (since thats about 7-8 years since the name, despite canon, has been used?)

I suppose something like Rockman/Megaman would have worked better. Regardless the fact Rockman even makes more sense to use due to character names being based off instruments/music, Capcom would never change the name given to those outside Japan. Its ingrained into fans memory/love for the character. Nor would I decide to call him by the Japanese name having learned it. You can, you just shouldn't be forced to, as a fan.

Getting rid of uniformity of names on the forum doesn't suddenly destroy the content of the site/how the writers wish to portray names in their articles/character bios, because as the writer you don't have to be subject/claim to having to list 5 names per character just incase a couple of readers don't know which character you are talking about. They prefer the Japanese names as fans themselves, that is fine. On the forum however, you'd expect fellow fans to have the same amount freedom as the writers.

The thread is now derailed to hell. I don't know if I should re-name the topic/edit the starting post, or if it is possible to move the latter discussion (that is not about the season 2 box set) to another thread/sub-forum.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

You guys are still on this? Really, why is it such a big deal to spell it the way some random dub spells it? Sure, the US gives a lot of money to Dragonball, but we're still just a country with some random dub. I like the notion of there being some universality in the names used here because it's not just Americans who post here.

For a few characters like Gohan, Piccolo and Goten, universality exists in regards to how to spell their names. But for most of the characters, no such universality exists, due to the character having mulitple romanized names (like Guld and Burta). So, a lot of people are using a plethora of different names for specific characters. My point is that there is no one convention for how to spell Dragon Ball characters' names, and there never will be (regardless of the American dub).

[Puto]

Dr Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik would indeed technically be the name for all regions since SA2, but past the Sonic Advance 1 manual (which was....2002/3?) the Robotnik name has not been used in any game or material since (might have been mentioned when they covered the SA2 story in Sonic X, I don't know). Essentially killing off the western name fans grew used to for over 10+ years (since thats about 7-8 years since the name, despite canon, has been used?)

Well... if it helps, the French dub of Sonic X called him "Dr. Robotnik" (removing the "Eggman" name entirely). And it could be worse... the Italian dubs of the original Sonic cartoons renamed Robotnik to "Dr. Nick".