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Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by NEG » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:15 pm

Greetings

I, just today, finished my DBZ set. Having gotten seasons 5-9 online. So there is, to note, a long time difference since the last time I got another of these season sets. (at a guess, nearly two years*)

So I stacked them all on the shelf, and noticed the colour of the spine for Season 2 to be off. I noticed this when I originally bought the set as well, but figured it might be Funi being so stupid that they can't even keep the colour right, or perhaps that it was "meant" to look like that.
After some Youtube viewing of other people's sets (or indeed viewing other posters collections on this forum) it's evident theres a problem with mine. Inside, there is not a Funimation advert card/paper thing showing future releases etc (unlike most of the other sets I have, have nothing in 1 and 3, might have thrown them away) but instead a advert by some site called bcieclipse.com (theres mainly a lot of he-man adverts inside, the site itself seems defunct)

Again, didn't think about this being wrong at all at the time. It was sealed like any other as much as memory serves, checked all the discs before posting (correct features, marathon mode, japan/english etc), booklet is fine full colour, it all works. Slip box looks the same as all the others, discs have the correct goku image, the only giveaways that I can now see are the spine (that makes out the dragonball z image with all the sets) and the advert inside not being from Funi.

The item was bought on ebay (I'm from the UK)

Is it fake, then? Or just a small supply that got printed a slightly wrong colour? Has there been any report on this kind of thing? (a quick search on the forum brought me nothing.

Figured I'd ask if it's been seen before rather then post pictures from the get-go and being told "yeah, known issue". I'll post pictures if needed.

Cheers for any help. Its only a small niggle since everything works, but would be nice to know.



*The original intention was to simply stop at Frieza, but seeing as how affordable, and the slight possibility that Funi may never release "original" DBZ with the original US broadcast music again be it due to the Dragon Box being considered the end all be all and future sets/releases probably concentrating on Kai, not to mention the reputation of the orange bricks in general, I figured I should grab "my" childhood version of Z (or at least what remains of it, changed voices, cropped-o-vision and all) while it's still around.

EDIT: Boo hiss at Frieza being auto-corrected to Japanese name. :roll:
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:50 pm

Yeah, the color of the side cover is off. That's how it was like for mine and others. That was Funi's fault.
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by NEG » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:55 pm

Thanks for confirmation. Phew, I guess.
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by Kendamu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:48 pm

NEG wrote:EDIT: Boo hiss at Freeza being auto-corrected to Japanese name. :roll:
Boo hiss at "boo hiss"-ing Freeza's real name. :P

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:10 pm

NEG wrote: EDIT: Boo hiss at Freeza being auto-corrected to Japanese name. :roll:
Shhhhhh, or they'll hear you. One must not speak out against the sacred word filter.

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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by VegettoEX » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:24 pm

NEG wrote:EDIT: Boo hiss at Freeza being auto-corrected to Japanese name. :roll:
The official English subtitles and manga beg to differ about that being "Japanese".

Let's keep things on-topic, folks. Thanks!
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by NEG » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:38 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
NEG wrote:EDIT: Boo hiss at Freeza being auto-corrected to Japanese name. :roll:
The official English subtitles and manga beg to differ about that being "Japanese".

Let's keep things on-topic, folks. Thanks!
90-95% of viewers watching it with subtitles do so (assumably) when viewing the show in Japanese. Can't say for certain but I doubt the subtitles say "Spirit Bomb" when viewing the english dub (or any attack for that matter by its english name, big kick in the balls if it does, my bad). Should I assume whatever the subtitles say to be the "official" word when the voice actor is saying something different? No. It just means it relates to one version of the show, not all.

If you want to go by official this or that, consider all the funimation sources upto now that spelt the fellows name the english script way. Do you not see the funimation script/merchandise/characters names in the dvd booklets as official in any way? (without throwing the dragon box on my head of course for whatever is written there)

If you are correct, it's due indeed to the manga release since we have to consider that as the "holy source", but honestly, it just looks to be disrespect in regards to the forums word filter doing such a thing. This is a Dragon Ball fansite for "all" fans I'm assuming. We should not be dictated in having to see certain words different fans are familiar with changed for what the moderators deem is the "right" word in their own heads and preferences.

Apologises for derailing.

Edit: took out a particular Z
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by VegettoEX » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:44 pm

All fans are welcome, but as the website and its forum introduction make abundantly clear, our focus is on the original Japanese version of the franchise -- one other country's dub does not globally define the franchise.

There are a few threads kicking around in the "General Discussion" area if you'd like clarification about what few word filters exist, nearly all of which were requested by the community. Go ahead and have a read if you consider it to be anything beyond a minor curiosity. I'd prefer to keep this thread on-topic.
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by AgitoZ » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:45 pm

NEG wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:
NEG wrote:EDIT: Boo hiss at Freeza being auto-corrected to Japanese name. :roll:
The official English subtitles and manga beg to differ about that being "Japanese".

Let's keep things on-topic, folks. Thanks!
90-95% of viewers watching it with subtitles do so (assumably) when viewing the show in Japanese. Can't say for certain but I doubt the subtitles say "Spirit Bomb" when viewing the english dub (or any attack for that matter by its english name, big kick in the balls if it does, my bad). Should I assume whatever the subtitles say to be the "official" word when the voice actor is saying something different? No. It just means it relates to one version of the show, not all.

If you want to go by official this or that, consider all the funimation sources upto now that spelt the fellows name the english script way. Do you not see the funimation script/merchandise/characters names in the dvd booklets as official in any way? (without throwing the dragon box on my head of course for whatever is written there)

If you are correct, it's due indeed to the manga release since we have to consider that as the "holy source", but honestly, it just looks to be disrespect in regards to the forums word filter doing such a thing. This is a Dragon Ball Z fansite for "all" fans I'm assuming. We should not be dictated in having to see certain words different fans are familiar with changed for what the moderators deem is the "right" word in their own heads and preferences.

Apologises for derailing.
Maybe because that's his name.

I mean you pronounce it freeza don't you, you don't pronounce it fry-ee-za as the dub spelling would like you to believe.

EDIT* Crap Mike got it already.
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by NEG » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:01 pm

VegettoEX wrote:All fans are welcome, but as the website and its forum introduction make abundantly clear, our focus is on the original Japanese version of the franchise

.....nearly all of which were requested by the community. .
Blimey. Well thank you for the clarification of the site. (which of course would lead me to question why then should the site review and indeed judge content and stuff that is released outside of Japan or outside the Japanese language if that is not the "focus" of the website, but I can always post a new thread on website discussion, so ignore this)

Disappointed about the filter but, if the community itself requested them, I can't say anything.

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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by Innagadadavida » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:39 am

NEG wrote:Disappointed about the filter but, if the community itself requested them, I can't say anything.
There are quite a few people around here who don't like the filter. Myself included. I think it's obnoxious, obtrusive, and wholly unnecessary (possibly counter-intuitive) to the "goals" of the community. But there are a few who like it though, and they're the only ones being catered too. They admittedly laugh when they see things like: "Tullece is my preferred spelling, I don't like the name Turles." :evil:

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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by OutlawTorn » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:41 pm

AgitoZ wrote:I mean you pronounce it freeza don't you, you don't pronounce it fry-ee-za as the dub spelling would like you to believe.
I would just like to point out that I have family whose last name is "Friesen" which rhymes with "freezin'" so it is not inconceivable that Freeza spelled with an IE combination could result in the proper pronunciation. Furthermore, the English word "relieved" is not pronounced "re-lie-ee-ved" as vowels tend to be blended together in English, whereas that's not necessarily the case in Japanese.

Just playing devil's advocate.

On topic, however, my copy of DBZ set 2 also has the paler orange colour, which is just a bit annoying for continuity's sake, but it would be even more annoying if the spine art wasn't aligned properly with each subsequent set.
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Post by Blue » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:31 pm

I love how Season 2 is so off color even the box managed to be so.
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Post by Kendamu » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:35 pm

Blue wrote:I love how Season 2 is so off color even the box managed to be so.
It was like the box was trying to warn us!

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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:30 pm

Once upon a time when the Season Sets first started coming out and they were up to Season 3, I was on another Forum site where they all thought they were DB gurus. So one of them was trying to convince everyone that Kyle Herbert was talking to him on AIM and said that they were going to go back and redub the first two "Seasons" to follow the Japanese version. I told him that it sounds dumb and they would not re-release the same set under the same title under the same packaging like that. Plus, told him that the chances of him talking to Kyle Herbert on AIM were pretty looney. He tried to convince me that Herbert was "known to" give out his AIM and be interactive with fans. In the end, I guess "Kyle Herbert" was wrong... or simply wasn't him at all.

Why did I bring this up? Just thought it was hilarious and this Thread reminded me of that. Sorry.

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Post by Puto » Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:05 am

Blue wrote:I love how Season 2 is so off color even the box managed to be so.
Totally putting this on my signature.
Blue wrote:I love how Season 2 is so off color even the box managed to be so.

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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by ThunderPX » Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:34 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Once upon a time when the Season Sets first started coming out and they were up to Season 3, I was on another Forum site where they all thought they were DB gurus. So one of them was trying to convince everyone that Kyle Herbert was talking to him on AIM and said that they were going to go back and redub the first two "Seasons" to follow the Japanese version. I told him that it sounds dumb and they would not re-release the same set under the same title under the same packaging like that. Plus, told him that the chances of him talking to Kyle Herbert on AIM were pretty looney. He tried to convince me that Herbert was "known to" give out his AIM and be interactive with fans. In the end, I guess "Kyle Herbert" was wrong... or simply wasn't him at all.

Why did I bring this up? Just thought it was hilarious and this Thread reminded me of that. Sorry.
Actually, before the first US Dragon Box came out, I remember reading that Kyle Hebert said the episode previews were being dubbed. Did FUNi change their minds, or was that also just a silly rumour?
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by DB_Fan1991 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:47 pm

ThunderPX wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:Once upon a time when the Season Sets first started coming out and they were up to Season 3, I was on another Forum site where they all thought they were DB gurus. So one of them was trying to convince everyone that Kyle Herbert was talking to him on AIM and said that they were going to go back and redub the first two "Seasons" to follow the Japanese version. I told him that it sounds dumb and they would not re-release the same set under the same title under the same packaging like that. Plus, told him that the chances of him talking to Kyle Herbert on AIM were pretty looney. He tried to convince me that Herbert was "known to" give out his AIM and be interactive with fans. In the end, I guess "Kyle Herbert" was wrong... or simply wasn't him at all.

Why did I bring this up? Just thought it was hilarious and this Thread reminded me of that. Sorry.
Actually, before the first US Dragon Box came out, I remember reading that Kyle Hebert said the episode previews were being dubbed. Did FUNi change their minds, or was that also just a silly rumour?
Likely a rumor since the Dragon Boxes only had the Japanese previews, and besides most of them were dubbed when they dubbed DBZ the first time, so he may of meant he redubbed the ones Dale Kelly did, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by Rory » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:38 pm

NEG wrote:why then should the site review and indeed judge content and stuff that is released outside of Japan or outside the Japanese language if that is not the "focus" of the website
I'm guessing it's 'cause.. y'know, they're from America. Therefore they buy the American products... and review them (The Japanese DVDs/games can be outrageously expensive).
The American releases have a Japanese language track + subtitles too ya know.
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Re: Fake DBZ Season 2 (orange brick) set?

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:43 pm

Rory wrote:
NEG wrote:why then should the site review and indeed judge content and stuff that is released outside of Japan or outside the Japanese language if that is not the "focus" of the website
I'm guessing it's 'cause.. y'know, they're from America. Therefore they buy the American products... and review them.
The American releases have a Japanese language track + subtitles too ya know.
That about sums it up. Emphasis on all of these products (for the most part) have the original Japanese version on them... which is what we cover. Furthermore, we don't cover only American products -- we cover plenty of products straight from Japan.
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