Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
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by fps_anth » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:26 pm
Has to be the episode where Trunks kills King Cold. What makes it worse, is arguably the best animated episode of the series was right before it (it ends with Trunks slicing Freeza in half). As the next episode begins, we're greeted with the same scene that ended the last episode, but with 1/10'th the budget

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by Savage68 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:30 pm
fps_anth wrote:What makes it worse, is arguably the best animated episode of the series was right before it (it ends with Trunks slicing Freeza in half).
No, that isn't really arguable; It wasn't. Episode 279, for instance, had superb animation.
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by Innagadadavida » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:45 pm
I was editing today and I found this really funny looking in-between shot.

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by Goku100xKamehameha » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:36 am
Metalwario64 wrote:Goku100xKamehameha wrote:I think almost every important episodes are well animated and they look amazing on Kai and the Season Sets because they don't have grains!
It's that kind of mindset that has ruined many DVD and Blu-Ray releases, even outside of Dragon Ball Z, with needless, destructive DVNR which makes film look incredibly artificial. It doesn't make things smooth, it makes them blurry (unless it's done very lightly, which even then it's still a downgrade, and you can still see the blurred grain in the background, which just looks unnatural), and it damages line art if done to the point of completely removing grain.
On live action films, it makes people's skin look overly, unnaturally smooth, and it takes out any tiny details that would be there otherwise, just for the sake of having a "perfect, new looking smooth picture". The point of remastering isn't to make things look like they were made today, they were made to restore film to their purest, original forms, which includes grain, especially on smaller film stock such as 16mm film that Dragon Ball is on. Grain is part of the picture, in fact, in a way, grain is the picture, as film is made up of those tiny particles which is, in fact, grain. Removing that is only destructive, even if you do it in small amounts like Kai and the Dragon Ball season sets. They look okay, but the Dragon Boxes still look much sharper and more detailed.
You can even find articles on the internet, and videos on YouTube speaking out against, and explaining the destructive nature of DVNR, or commonly also referred to as simply "DNR". Believe it or not, Dragon Ball Z is not the first and only show to undergo such a travesty of a treatment for DVD and even Blu-Ray releases. People in such fandoms are just as angry about their releases as we were with the Z orange bricks. It's even sadder that some of those fandoms may never get a properly remastered, or even presented release for a long time, if ever.
I just don't like grains. I prefer Dragon Ball Kai's video quality than Dragon Ball Z's. I don't know why but it's probably because I viewed my Dragon Box on an 1080p HDTV but regardless, I still don't like grains, period!
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by Attitudefan » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:13 am
I just don't like grains. I prefer Dragon Ball Kai's video quality than Dragon Ball Z's. I don't know why but it's probably because I viewed my Dragon Box on an 1080p HDTV but regardless, I still don't like grains, period!
how does this have to do with the topic?
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by Ringworm128 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:13 am
Can someone send me that Twas the night before christmas screen shot without the Goku face in it?
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by Son Geeko » Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:37 pm
jjgp1112 wrote:I had to do this:

Just curious, what site is that?
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by Godo » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:35 pm
Son Geeko wrote:jjgp1112 wrote:I had to do this:

What site is that?
http://www.anaface.com/
Took me 1 minute to find it via Google.

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by LeprikanGT » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:39 pm
Innagadadavida wrote:I was editing today and I found this really funny looking in-between shot.

Reminds me of Dale Gribble for some reason.
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by Perfect » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:09 pm
Cell's perfect so this is rigged.

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by Kingdom Heartless » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:44 am
Wow.... I didn't know Cell would be perfect by real life standards.

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by Lance Freeman » Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:00 pm
There was that one episode at the end of the Garlic Jr. arc where Gohan looked like he was on serious steroids. That was terrible.
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by Savage68 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:27 pm
Western comics' take on Vegeta.
I-is this GT? Or does the Majin Charm come with the side effect of hair loss?
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by Metalwario64 » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:43 pm
Yeah, the episode that second cap is from was done by Last House, who's art was terrible by that point, possibly the worst at the time (they also did the Super Saiyan Goku that's circulating through this thread). Worse than Studio Live (triangle crap, Lupin Vegeta), which had become pretty decent by that point I feel.
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by dbboxkaifan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:27 pm
Tanooki Kuribo wrote:I know this wasn't in the TV series but, the second Coola movie has some of the shittiest animation, well to be fair it's mostly during the early fight scenes.
OK, so it's not really fair to screen cap an image when the characters are in the middle of a fight but, I just had to post this image.

Goku looks really badly drawn.
I noticed bad animation during the Z/GT series but did not ever stop to see it because I couldn't care for it. One Piece has weird animation too.

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by Son Geeko » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:39 pm
Since this thread has been brought back up from the dead, I'll just have to say that DBZ episode 39 "Friends or Foes? Children of the Mysterious Giant Spaceship" looks overall pretty bad.
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by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:12 pm
The episode where Goku fought Cell and Frieza in Hell.
Dragon Ball GT itself is pretty fugly but this one seals the deal. If you fuck up Perfect form Cell's design then there's something wrong.
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about
your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.