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Obscure DB rumours

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:54 am

Does anyone have any obscure Dragon Ball rumours that's unheard of? I don't mean the common ones like "Goku died on Namek" and "Janemba was the one who trapped Kaiôshin in the Z-Sword", ones that not many people would've known of.
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Post by Herms » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:06 pm

Don't a lot of people have to have heard about something for it to count as a rumor? Otherwise it's just an ordinary misconception.

I heard someone claim once that Toriyama wrote the Evil Dragon story arc in GT, and designed the dragons for it. I don't think that one's too widespread (at least I hope it isn't).
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Re: Obscure DB rumours

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:10 pm

Herms wrote:Don't a lot of people have to have heard about something for it to count as a rumor? Otherwise it's just an ordinary misconception.

I heard someone claim once that Toriyama wrote the Evil Dragon story arc in GT, and designed the dragons for it. I don't think that one's too widespread (at least I hope it isn't).
OK...let me rephrase. Not the typical ones that everyone's heard of...you know what I mean. Like, the 12,000,000 and 15,000,000 mistranslations. Just obscure ones that you've heard some people throw about.
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Re: Obscure DB rumours

Post by The Time Traveller » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:27 pm

I swear I've read this one being presented as a possibility before.



Freeza is Goku's mother.

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Post by linkdude20002001 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:29 pm

Back in fifth grade (1999), I was told that Piccolo had a son (turns out, no, that's just Dende); Bulma's stupid for acting like she didn't know Gokuh had a son, 'cause she should've remembered the time she used to baby sit him (turns out, no, they obviously hadn't actually watched DB); Gohan gets kidnapped by a group of Saiyans and they make him evil (What!?).

Also, my friend told me he first thought Freeza was Gokuh's wife. Lol.
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Re: Obscure DB rumours

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:36 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:I swear I've read this one being presented as a possibility before.



Freeza is Goku's mother.
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linkdude20002001 wrote:Also, my friend told me he first thought Freeza was Gokuh's wife. Lol.
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Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:40 pm

Not the above plan..... Kakarotto's father is truly Goku's father, Bardock.
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Re: Obscure DB rumours

Post by Dayspring » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:43 pm

I heard that Kaio and Bubbles are referenced in Toriyama's children's book/manga called "Toccio The Angel." The rumor is that Toccio gets caught being lazy all the time by having claimed that his pet monkey angel was Bubbles, whom Kaio had asked to be babysat. The Big Boss (the head angel) finds out it's a lie because Kaio and Bubble now live in Heaven.

No idea if it's true or not, but I doubt it is.

I also remember hearing pretty often that reason Bardock is so strong is because his father was King Vegeta's father. IE: Bardock's a fitzroy.
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Post by the_abberration » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:23 pm

The whole "catch Bubbles" thing was an homage to Rocky II's catch the chicken scene.

Broli was actually Vegeta's younger half brother, which is why Paragus sought vengeance on him in the movie (avenge the affair and eliminate the rightful Saiyan heir so Broli could take the title).
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Re: Obscure DB rumours

Post by Adamant » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:45 pm

linkdude20002001 wrote:Gohan gets kidnapped by a group of Saiyans and they make him evil (What!?).
That's not too far away from what happpens in the third Z movie,though.
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Post by linkdude20002001 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 3:33 pm

Yeah, that's the closest I could think of... But even that's not quite the same. You see, my friends were saying he was brought into outer space for years, and then they return and he's all evil and whatnot. :/
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Post by ThunderPX » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:49 pm

Isn't that sort of like what happens in the second Super Goku Den if you lose to Raditz? I've never seen that outcome myself, but I remember reading about that in a walkthrough.
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Post by Big Momma » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:17 pm

The whole, "Toriyama died of a heart attack" rumor
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:26 pm

When I was in the 5th grade they where rumors about Dragon Ball GT, and that villains such as Broly, and Lord Slug would come back to life. And that Piccolo got marry with a female namke later on in the series.
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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:06 am

Herms wrote:Don't a lot of people have to have heard about something for it to count as a rumor? Otherwise it's just an ordinary misconception.

I heard someone claim once that Toriyama wrote the Evil Dragon story arc in GT, and designed the dragons for it. I don't think that one's too widespread (at least I hope it isn't).
I've corrected somebody on GameFAQs on that one, actually.
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Post by Kid Buu » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:18 am

That Toriyama wanted to end the series after Goku vs Freeza...

...wait, what?
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Post by Eire » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:20 am

As I've heard at first DB was planned as 13 chapters.

Vegeta and Goku are brothers- the suspended is Polish translation from French script.
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Post by Ahiru77 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:45 pm

Kid Buu wrote:That Toriyama wanted to end the series after Goku vs Freeza...

...wait, what?
Please tell me that this was just a filthy rumor.

Then I can finally read vol. 12 without thinking he actually wasn't up for it at all. I mean how can you create such a masterpiece, reluctantly. :(

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Post by the_abberration » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:55 pm

I also once heard rumor/speculation of Mr. Satan being based off a real life martial artist, known as Count Dante.

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Re: Obscure DB rumours

Post by Herms » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:15 pm

Ahiru77 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:That Toriyama wanted to end the series after Goku vs Freeza...

...wait, what?
Please tell me that this was just a filthy rumor.
Yeah, it is basically just a rumor with no real evidence behind it, other than the general fact that Toriyama never intended the series to go on as long as it did. He mentions in one of the early tankoubon Q&As (around DB volume 5 I think) that he was thinking of the series running a total of 9 volumes (ie ending before the 22nd TB), and he suggested the name "DragonBall Z" because Z was the last letter in the alphabet and he was hoping to end things soon. So he actually didn't even originally intend things to get anywhere near as far as the Freeza stuff, really. All the rumors about Toriyama specifically wanting to end things with the Goku vs. Freeza fight, or wanting Goku and/or Freeza and/or Piccolo and/or pretty much the whole cast to die and stay dead aren't supported by anything Toriyama has ever said in an interview. Unfortunately these rumors are also some of the most widespread and commonly accepted bits of misinformation in the fandom, so they don't really meet the criteria for this thread.
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