The power of Mr.Satan

[LeprikanGT]

Yamcha cares about it, he "jokingly" asked everyone to ask the dragon to make them all rich. [he should have stayed with Bulma]

Hercule has been brave [technically] in from of the planet when he went to fight Cell [even though he didn't know what he was doing] and then when he talked to the Earth from the kai planet after Vegeta failed to give energy.

Going to face Buu all by himself was pretty brave, even though the Navy ...and Army? had already failed at just that. Then in front of Fat Buu Goku, and Vegeta he went up against Kid Buu to help them give Goku more time for the spirit bomb.

He is just as much a hero [in that account] as Goku was. Without Mr. Satan, they would have been killed.

[Gaffer Tape]

Yamcha cares about it, he "jokingly" asked everyone to ask the dragon to make them all rich. [he should have stayed with Bulma]

Wait... when did that happen? The only failed Yamucha wish I can remember is when he wanted to get a necklace for his girlfriend.

[LeprikanGT]

Yamcha cares about it, he "jokingly" asked everyone to ask the dragon to make them all rich. [he should have stayed with Bulma]

Wait... when did that happen? The only failed Yamucha wish I can remember is when he wanted to get a necklace for his girlfriend.

May have been the dub - it was when Krillin wished for the bomb to be removed from 18.

[rereboy]

Yamcha cares about it, he "jokingly" asked everyone to ask the dragon to make them all rich. [he should have stayed with Bulma]

Wait... when did that happen? The only failed Yamucha wish I can remember is when he wanted to get a necklace for his girlfriend.

May have been the dub - it was when Krillin wished for the bomb to be removed from 18.

It was the dub. In the original he just wants a necklace for his girlfriend.

[LeprikanGT]

Was there a mention beforehand o him having a girlfriend? The dub sounds a bit more logical if not.

He was a bandit, I doubt 'getting' a necklace would be too hard.

Anywho, back to Mr. Satan and his world saving power.

[dbgtFO]

Was there a mention beforehand o him having a girlfriend? The dub sounds a bit more logical if not.

He was a bandit, I doubt 'getting' a necklace would be too hard.

Anywho, back to Mr. Satan and his world saving power.

Since you are talking about his world saving power instead of what was originally asked ie. his strength compared to others(Edit: real world fighters) are you indirectly admitting he was weaker than even Yajirobe? Not to be an ass, but the original question was regarding his strength not his Universe saving power(which I actually like Mr. Satan for btw).
I still think he is above normal human he is probably an all rounder with special emphasis on wrestling(he was stated to be a wrestling champion, though I'm not sure if that was retconned to be World Tournament winner).

[LeprikanGT]

Was there a mention beforehand o him having a girlfriend? The dub sounds a bit more logical if not.

He was a bandit, I doubt 'getting' a necklace would be too hard.

Anywho, back to Mr. Satan and his world saving power.

Since you are talking about his world saving power instead of what was originally asked ie. his strength compared to others(Edit: real world fighters) are you indirectly admitting he was weaker than even Yajirobe? Not to be an ass, but the original question was regarding his strength not his Universe saving power(which I actually like Mr. Satan for btw).
I still think he is above normal human he is probably an all rounder with special emphasis on wrestling(he was stated to be a wrestling champion, though I'm not sure if that was retconned to be World Tournament winner).

All I meant was that 'power' doesn't JUST mean how strong you are or who can beat who. Mr. Satan is no where near the strongest person on the planet but he's shown to have power that the others didn't. [And I'll never believe that Yajirobe would beat Mr. Satan in a tournament fight....or that Yajirobe would beat Roshi.]

[dbgtFO]

Was there a mention beforehand o him having a girlfriend? The dub sounds a bit more logical if not.

He was a bandit, I doubt 'getting' a necklace would be too hard.

Anywho, back to Mr. Satan and his world saving power.

Since you are talking about his world saving power instead of what was originally asked ie. his strength compared to others(Edit: real world fighters) are you indirectly admitting he was weaker than even Yajirobe? Not to be an ass, but the original question was regarding his strength not his Universe saving power(which I actually like Mr. Satan for btw).
I still think he is above normal human he is probably an all rounder with special emphasis on wrestling(he was stated to be a wrestling champion, though I'm not sure if that was retconned to be World Tournament winner).

All I meant was that 'power' doesn't JUST mean how strong you are or who can beat who. Mr. Satan is no where near the strongest person on the planet but he's shown to have power that the others didn't. [And I'll never believe that Yajirobe would beat Mr. Satan in a tournament fight....or that Yajirobe would beat Roshi.]

Well since the title of this thread is in fact "The power of Mr. Satan" it is valid to talk about his universe saving power.
Well you might be right, that Yajirobe couldn't beat Satan in a tournament because there are several factors you have to consider(ring out can be caused if one is too careless), but that would probably only be a post Cell arc Yajirobe who could be so careless. If they fought in the 23rd Budokai in the preliminaries I'm sure Yajirobe would win, since he only had one match left, but it was against God himself, so yeah he lost, but getting so far must mean, he has some skill and if Satan could have topped that I would be surprised.
If Roshi was to face Yaji it could be possible he had some strategy to get him out of the ring, since he's facing an opponent, who is without a doubt stronger than him.
So I'm okay with your example only talking about a tournament match.

[LeprikanGT]

I think the Buu Saga Yajirobe would be a lot weaker than the Buu Saga Yajirobe and Mr. Satan since that's like his prime.

I think a lot of wins in the tournament would go differently if theye was no ringouts and you had to make your opponent either give up or do a ten count.

[Senzu_Bean]

To that extent, he has more power than the Z fighters.

What are you implying? That he could beat Goku in a fight?

Anyway, Satan is strong for sure but he is strong among "normal" Earthlings. Videl was stronger than him after trained with Gohan and we all know how "weak" she is compared to the likes of Roshi, Yajirobe and even Chichi.

[LeprikanGT]

To that extent, he has more power than the Z fighters.

What are you implying? That he could beat Goku in a fight?

Anyway, Satan is strong for sure but he is strong among "normal" Earthlings. Videl was stronger than him after trained with Gohan and we all know how "weak" she is compared to the likes of Roshi, Yajirobe and even Chichi.

I mean that he got Buu to stop killing people, and got the people of Earth to give their energy for the spirit bomb, then went up against Kid Buu to give them time for the spirirt bomb and then moved Vegeta out of the way else Goku wasn't going to use the spirit bomb.

{Don't want to start ANOTHER off topic discussion, but I think Videl would OWN ChiChi in a fight.}

Mr. Satan is just one of those characters that all of his power ISN"T strength in a show based on people depending on strength.

[Olympian]

Yamcha cares about it, he "jokingly" asked everyone to ask the dragon to make them all rich. [he should have stayed with Bulma]

No, i mentioned fame. That moment you mean is when he jokingly asks the Dragon for a gift to a girlfriend, something he remarks to Kuririn moments after that he was joking around, when his friend was apologizing for having made another wish. I hardly consider that a serious moment, given the tune and the fact that even Toryama would not write the character as being so morally bankrupt (pun intended), that he didn`t knew personal wishes were second ground of importance in that instance.

The Man is munching over his ex and her mate at they`r place. Using filler that fits into canon, he is a known sporstman, and we have never see him having problems using different suits, haircuts and cars. Heck, he could steal if he wanted to, who would catch him?

(the H-word) has been brave [technically] in from of the planet when he went to fight Cell [even though he didn't know what he was doing] and then when he talked to the Earth from the kai planet after Vegeta failed to give energy.Going to face Buu all by himself was pretty brave, even though the Navy ...and Army? had already failed at just that. Then in front of Fat Buu Goku, and Vegeta he went up against Kid Buu to help them give Goku more time for the spirit bomb.

Yes, i mentioned it. Like Yajirobe, he can rise up the task and be brave. But usually, brave is not something he is.

He is just as much a hero [in that account] as Goku was. Without Mr. Satan, they would have been killed.

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Yeah, okay, but that got nothing to do with power, unless you simply mean power of suggestion.

[LeprikanGT]

Yamcha cares about it, he "jokingly" asked everyone to ask the dragon to make them all rich. [he should have stayed with Bulma]

No, i mentioned fame. That moment you mean is when he jokingly asks the Dragon for a gift to a girlfriend, something he remarks to Kuririn moments after that he was joking around, when his friend was apologizing for having made another wish. I hardly consider that a serious moment, given the tune and the fact that even Toryama would not write the character as being so morally bankrupt (pun intended), that he didn`t knew personal wishes were second ground of importance in that instance.

The Man is munching over his ex and her mate at they`r place. Using filler that fits into canon, he is a known sporstman, and we have never see him having problems using different suits, haircuts and cars. Heck, he could steal if he wanted to, who would catch him?

(the H-word) has been brave [technically] in from of the planet when he went to fight Cell [even though he didn't know what he was doing] and then when he talked to the Earth from the kai planet after Vegeta failed to give energy.Going to face Buu all by himself was pretty brave, even though the Navy ...and Army? had already failed at just that. Then in front of Fat Buu Goku, and Vegeta he went up against Kid Buu to help them give Goku more time for the spirit bomb.
Yes, i mentioned it. Like Yajirobe, he can rise up the task and be brave. But usually, brave is not something he is.

He is just as much a hero [in that account] as Goku was. Without Mr. Satan, they would have been killed.

Yeah, okay, but that got nothing to do with power, unless you simply mean power of suggestion.

Power can mean anything; not just brute strength. He had the power to do a lot in the show that the strong people couldn't [named above].

[Olympian]

power can mean anything, not just brute strength. He had the power to do a lot in the show that the strong people couldn't [named above]

He had the charisma. And said charisma only worked because he successfully built a reputation bigger than himself, based on clever marketing. If say, Yamucha, cared about it, he could be the best professional athlete of all time, clean over two Budokai with ease, and charm the audience too.

He even got the Hollywood looks. All those Twilight teenage girls would eat his image up :p

[LeprikanGT]

power can mean anything, not just brute strength. He had the power to do a lot in the show that the strong people couldn't [named above]

He had the charisma. And said charisma only worked because he successfully built a reputation bigger than himself, based on clever marketing.

That sounds like Power to me.

[caejones]

(Videl Vs. ChiChi would be awesome, regardless of outcome. XD )

I always did like it when Mr. Satan accomplished things. Victory doesn't have to be a matter of who's the strongest, even at the end of DBZ...

(Yajirobe Vs. Cymbal was awesome. Just sayin'. )

[LeprikanGT]

(Videl Vs. ChiChi would be awesome, regardless of outcome. XD )

I always did like it when Mr. Satan accomplished things. Victory doesn't have to be a matter of who's the strongest, even at the end of DBZ...

(Yajirobe Vs. Cymbal was awesome. Just sayin'. )

I always loved him for that reason, all paparazzi aside he does really do things and damn if he wasn't around to witness some of the most amazing battles the universe has ever seen [opinion?]

Mr. Satan = The only survivor of the human race.......[after Kid Buu blew up the Earth]....right?

[Silver Sinspawn]

(Videl Vs. ChiChi would be awesome, regardless of outcome. XD )

I always did like it when Mr. Satan accomplished things. Victory doesn't have to be a matter of who's the strongest, even at the end of DBZ...

(Yajirobe Vs. Cymbal was awesome. Just sayin'. )

I always loved him for that reason, all paparazzi aside he does really do things and damn if he wasn't around to witness some of the most amazing battles the universe has ever seen [opinion?]

Mr. Satan = The only survivor of the human race.......[after Kid Buu blew up the Earth]....right?

Him surviving just means he has friends, and was closer than other people at the time.

[LeprikanGT]

It wasn't me trying to prove a point or anything, just a fact that makes him a bit cooler.

Also I don't know how the #$%^&* Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan magicly got SO far away from Goku and Vegeta if they all came out of Buu at the same spot....but thats a whole different plot hole.

[Rocketman]

Also I don't know how the #$%^&* Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan magicly got SO far away from Goku and Vegeta if they all came out of Buu at the same spot....but thats a whole different plot hole.

Goku and Vegeta carried them away and hid them there so they wouldn't be in the way during the fight with Buu.