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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by TripleRach » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:28 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:I'm sure part of that huge price tag was because they were taking orders and THEN making them. If they were mass producing them I am sure the prices would have dropped, especially if places outside of Japan was selling them. Japanese DVD prices ARE pretty ridiculous [comparing to US prices.]
The MSRP for the two Z boxes combined is 200,000 yen (2 x 100,000).

The MSRP for the 49 (mass produced) Z singles combined is 186,200 yen (49 x 3,800).

So, not really.

And keep in mind that these prices are actually cheaper than many other series in Japan. Just search around on CD Japan. Four episodes of FMA are 5800 yen. Three episodes of One Piece are 4500 yen. As opposed to six DBZ episodes for 3,800.
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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Puto » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:52 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:A: In my eyes, the Japanese Dragon Boxes are truly perfect. There is no flaw at all.
- Crap quality audio (VHSes recorded from the original airing have better audio quality than the Dragon Box!), especially in GT which still has high quality audio in reruns, but sounds like crap on the Dragon Box. This is my #1 biggest complaint about the Dragon Boxes.
- Lack of certain extras (as noted by that Kanzentai page)
- Faded colors (arguable, but still). It was discussed here on Daizex last year, I think.
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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Choice195 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:38 pm

Japanese Dragonbox = Perfect Dragonball release YET!

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:48 pm

Choice195 wrote:Japanese Dragonbox = Perfect Dragonball release YET!
For sub fans, Yes.
For Dub/Faulconer fans, I'd say the brick sets.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by nathantheguitarist » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:03 pm

I'd say the old singles, as troublesome as theyd be to get all of them. But that's just me. I'd take saturation and shitty encoding over... whatever the fuck they did to the bricks.
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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by SonGokuGT » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:08 pm

@Maakuo,

Dragon Boxes are great, but I would not call them perfect. You can say we complain too much or whatever but on the other side of the coin we can just say that you're blinded by the fact that you're defending your purchases. Look at the facts: They are not "perfect" by definition.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:09 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:I'd say the old singles, as troublesome as theyd be to get all of them. But that's just me. I'd take saturation and shitty encoding over... whatever the fuck they did to the bricks.
I HAVE all the old singles, it took awhiiiile to get, and way too much money. Those used to be like 17.99 a single disc.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by nathantheguitarist » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:18 pm

Yeah, but now they're only a couple dollars or less, just glancing around anyways. I'd like to get them myself after getting the Dragon Boxes, because I like Faulconer's score, but could care less about the dub music for the first two Saga's, which my preference lies in the Ocean dub anyways. :lol:
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Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:19 pm

I can't even remember the music from then. I love like the Cell saga stuff and the SS3 stuff.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Choice195 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:21 pm

Yeah, after I finish collecting the Dragonboxes I'll collect some of the old singles.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by LeprikanGT » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:33 pm

Choice195 wrote:Yeah, After i finish collecting the Dragonboxes ill collect some of the old singles.
Good luck finding the boxes, that was the hardest part for me.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Choice195 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:51 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:
Choice195 wrote:Yeah, After i finish collecting the Dragonboxes ill collect some of the old singles.
Good luck finding the boxes, that was the hardest part for me.
I meant the US dragonboxes.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:21 pm

I'm pretty sure a blood vessel in my eye popped while I was reading this thread.

Let's get one thing straight: The Dragon Box is not perfect. However, it is as good as we're ever going to get, likely. While there's so much good about it, there are a few detracting issues: the worse sound quality thanks to Toei throwing away the original audio tapes, the degraded colors, and other things. That can't be denied. The English Dragon Boxes are a perfectly reasonable American version of the original Dragon Box release: the same footage (sure, it's a little bit compressed and runs slightly worse in motion, but still fantastic) spread out in 7 boxes at an affordable price. Sure, the English boxes aren't as fucking huge as the JP Box, but they're still much bigger than your average DVD Box. They still stand out from other releases. Sure, you can complain about the lack of extras, but as other people have pointed out: who cares? And not only that, but it would be a much more difficult process for Funi to get said extras, so those shouldn't have been an immediate expectation anyway.
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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Puto » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:29 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:
Puto wrote:
AnimeMaakuo wrote:A: In my eyes, the Japanese Dragon Boxes are truly perfect. There is no flaw at all.
- Crap quality audio (VHSes recorded from the original airing have better audio quality than the Dragon Box!), especially in GT which still has high quality audio in reruns, but sounds like crap on the Dragon Box. This is my #1 biggest complaint about the Dragon Boxes.
- Lack of certain extras (as noted by that Kanzentai page)
- Faded colors (arguable, but still). It was discussed here on Daizex last year, I think.
You complain way too much. I've seen lots of comparisons to other VHS tapes and coloring. It's not bad at all. Are you pointing it out because you don't have it and you needed to make an unnecessary "nit pick" just so you can justify your response? We've already talked about those that you've mentioned. If you absolutely CAN'T live without the MINOR extras, then so be it. They already included the main extras, and that's really all you need. I'm sure Toei knew what he was doing when he released it all. Besides, the old video remaster gives it an old classic feel. Fact of the matter, it came out in 2003, its been the best remaster since, and still is (Imo). "Kai" is nothing more than cheap animation, and a whole heartly crop cash bringer. I know I'll get a lot of attention for that, but that's my opinion.. as everyone else has theres. :P
You still haven't mentioned my #1 problem with the Dragon Box: The horrible audio quality. Semi-justifiable in the DB and DBZ boxes because Toei are morons and threw away the original audio tapes, but not with GT, since GT reruns still have the original high quality stereo audio.
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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:43 pm

I can afford this now, so maybe I'll get it if nobody bids.... maybe. :x

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by ShadowDude112 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:49 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I'm pretty sure a blood vessel in my eye popped while I was reading this thread.

Let's get one thing straight: The Dragon Box is not perfect. However, it is as good as we're ever going to get, likely. While there's so much good about it, there are a few detracting issues: the worse sound quality thanks to Toei throwing away the original audio tapes, the degraded colors, and other things. That can't be denied. The English Dragon Boxes are a perfectly reasonable American version of the original Dragon Box release: the same footage (sure, it's a little bit compressed and runs slightly worse in motion, but still fantastic) spread out in 7 boxes at an affordable price. Sure, the English boxes aren't as fucking huge as the JP Box, but they're still much bigger than your average DVD Box. They still stand out from other releases. Sure, you can complain about the lack of extras, but as other people have pointed out: who cares? And not only that, but it would be a much more difficult process for Funi to get said extras, so those shouldn't have been an immediate expectation anyway.
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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:23 am

ShadowDude112 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I'm pretty sure a blood vessel in my eye popped while I was reading this thread.

Let's get one thing straight: The Dragon Box is not perfect. However, it is as good as we're ever going to get, likely. While there's so much good about it, there are a few detracting issues: the worse sound quality thanks to Toei throwing away the original audio tapes, the degraded colors, and other things. That can't be denied. The English Dragon Boxes are a perfectly reasonable American version of the original Dragon Box release: the same footage (sure, it's a little bit compressed and runs slightly worse in motion, but still fantastic) spread out in 7 boxes at an affordable price. Sure, the English boxes aren't as fucking huge as the JP Box, but they're still much bigger than your average DVD Box. They still stand out from other releases. Sure, you can complain about the lack of extras, but as other people have pointed out: who cares? And not only that, but it would be a much more difficult process for Funi to get said extras, so those shouldn't have been an immediate expectation anyway.
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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Kendamu » Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:29 am

SuperSaiyan3Goku wrote:
ShadowDude112 wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:I'm pretty sure a blood vessel in my eye popped while I was reading this thread.

Let's get one thing straight: The Dragon Box is not perfect. However, it is as good as we're ever going to get, likely. While there's so much good about it, there are a few detracting issues: the worse sound quality thanks to Toei throwing away the original audio tapes, the degraded colors, and other things. That can't be denied. The English Dragon Boxes are a perfectly reasonable American version of the original Dragon Box release: the same footage (sure, it's a little bit compressed and runs slightly worse in motion, but still fantastic) spread out in 7 boxes at an affordable price. Sure, the English boxes aren't as fucking huge as the JP Box, but they're still much bigger than your average DVD Box. They still stand out from other releases. Sure, you can complain about the lack of extras, but as other people have pointed out: who cares? And not only that, but it would be a much more difficult process for Funi to get said extras, so those shouldn't have been an immediate expectation anyway.
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Too bad no-one who should actually read it won't. :|
I've noticed that such is the trend in this thread. The better your point is from the angle of, "Chill out. Yeah, the Japanese DBox is most awesome, but the American DBox is still very, very cool and much more affordable. Plus, some of us don't really care about anything else besides just being able to watch the show as it was meant to be seen :lol:," the more you're ignored for it. Because I don't feel like repeating myself again, I figure that everyone who is going to see things that way already saw them that way when coming into this thread and noticing how a sale turned into a debate.

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Re: Japanese Dragon Box Z Volume 1 for sale

Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:18 am

I really don't one is "better" than the other. Some people can argue that the Japanese Dragon Boxes are better because they have a bit of extra footage. But on the other hand, some people can argue that the American Dragon Boxes are better because they are more compact, affordable and contain the English dub. It's all subjective, and neither is "perfect".

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