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Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:08 am

Which technique do you think is the most powerful in Dragon Ball? I think it's the Ki-Kô-Hô, or to more specific, Tenshinhan's advanced version of the technique: The Shin Ki-Kô-Hô.

What does the Daizenshuu say about it again? I think it's explained that it's a technique that draws upon the user's life force, and is so dangerous it can kill them. As we see in the series, the times Tenshinhan uses it in a dire situation to finish off an opponent, he's extremely exhausted. Even when he used it just destroy the arena at the 22nd Tenka'ichi Budôkai, it exhausted his energy considerably. Plus, after Tenshinhan has his arm punched off by Nappa and is beaten to the ground, he's still able to generate an attack of enough power to make Piccolo think that Nappa was immortal for surviving it.

And then, of course, there's Tenshinhan's Shin-Kô-Hô, capable of holding off even Semi-Perfect Cell, an enemy even Artificial Human #16 could not defeat. Is there any extra information in one of the guidebooks on this technique as well? I was just wondering whether it is indeed stronger than Tenshinhan's regular Ki-Kô-Hô, or just a series of Ki-Kô-Hôs, with maybe not as much power put into it as when he fired it at Nappa, fired in consecutive amounts, since it seems quite much for Tenshinhan to perform full power Ki-Kô-Hô and be able to do more than one of them without collapsing after the first couple.

Anyway, that's why I think the Ki-Kô-Hô is the most powerful technique in the series. Something else I want to enquire...doesn't Kame-sennin say that it's a technique of the Crane School? Does this mean that Tsuru-sennin knows the technique? Can he actually perform it, or is it like with Kaiô and his Kaiô-Ken, that he knows the technique, its rules and can teach it, but is unable to master it and either can use it but automatically die from it, or just flat-out can't use it?
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Suupaa Gohan 2 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:14 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Which technique do you think is the most powerful in Dragon Ball? I think it's the Ki-Kô-Hô, or to more specific, Tenshinhan's advanced version of the technique: The Shin Ki-Kô-Hô. ... I think it's explained that it's a technique that draws upon the user's life force, and is so dangerous it can kill them. As we see in the series, the times Tenshinhan uses it in a dire situation to finish off an opponent, he's extremely exhausted.
For basically the same reason, I'd say the Kaiouken. The Kikoho, even with its consequences, is just an energy blast. The Kaiouken, however, amplifies absolutely everything, with the same consequences, though even more of a risk especially when multiplying it. It's such a shame it fell into disuse once everyone started becoming Super Saiyajin left and right, but it makes sense - if you have the ability to unlock a legendary power with a means that doesn't put you at the risk of blowing yourself up, then yeaaaaah, opt for that instead.

Alternatively, the Mafuba, though if we imagined anyone trying to perform that later in the series (like, to trap Buu again or something), for some reason I think it would be pretty easy to evade...and whether you hit your target or not, whoops, you're dead.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:38 am

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Which technique do you think is the most powerful in Dragon Ball? I think it's the Ki-Kô-Hô, or to more specific, Tenshinhan's advanced version of the technique: The Shin Ki-Kô-Hô. ... I think it's explained that it's a technique that draws upon the user's life force, and is so dangerous it can kill them. As we see in the series, the times Tenshinhan uses it in a dire situation to finish off an opponent, he's extremely exhausted.
For basically the same reason, I'd say the Kaiouken. The Kikoho, even with its consequences, is just an energy blast. The Kaiouken, however, amplifies absolutely everything, with the same consequences, though even more of a risk especially when multiplying it. It's such a shame it fell into disuse once everyone started becoming Super Saiyajin left and right, but it makes sense - if you have the ability to unlock a legendary power with a means that doesn't put you at the risk of blowing yourself up, then yeaaaaah, opt for that instead.

Alternatively, the Mafuba, though if we imagined anyone trying to perform that later in the series (like, to trap Buu again or something), for some reason I think it would be pretty easy to evade...and whether you hit your target or not, whoops, you're dead.
I didn't say the Kaiô-Ken because I just think you'd get more results with a Ki-Kô-Hô than if you just used Kaiô-Ken. If the Ki-Kô-Hô works by multiplication, I just think it would generate a power so much higher than even a Kaiô-Ken x20 used in conjunction with a Kamehameha because 1) when Tenshinhan was injured without an arm, he could still fire a Ki-Kô-Hô that made Piccolo scared shitless Nappa survived it and 2) the Shin Ki-Kô-Hô held off Semi-Perfect Cell.

As for the Mafuba...yeah, it's a damn powerful technique, but it's more of a one-shot attack where if you miss the pot, you're fucked. It probably would be easy to evade if anyone used it later in the series, and dare I say it--it's probably a more flawed technique than the Ki-Kô-Hô or Kaiô-Ken. And what if someone like Cell or Boo, who can copy techniques easily, performed the Reverse Mafuba?
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:And then, of course, there's Tenshinhan's Shin-Kô-Hô, capable of holding off even Semi-Perfect Cell, an enemy even Artificial Human #16 could not defeat. Is there any extra information in one of the guidebooks on this technique as well? I was just wondering whether it is indeed stronger than Tenshinhan's regular Ki-Kô-Hô, or just a series of Ki-Kô-Hôs, with maybe not as much power put into it as when he fired it at Nappa, fired in consecutive amounts, since it seems quite much for Tenshinhan to perform full power Ki-Kô-Hô and be able to do more than one of them without collapsing after the first couple.
Daizenshuu 4 says that it's a rapid-fire variant of the Kikoho (ie Tenshinhan didn't simply fire the Shin-Kikoho multiple times at Cell, it's just the nature of the attack to consist of multiple blasts), while Daizenshuu 7 simply says it's a strengthened version of the regular Kikoho. Based on that, I like to think it works the way it's portrayed in Attack of the Saiyans: a series of Kikoho blasts where each one is individually more powerful than a regular Kikoho.
Anyway, that's why I think the Ki-Kô-Hô is the most powerful technique in the series. Something else I want to enquire...doesn't Kame-sennin say that it's a technique of the Crane School?
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Does this mean that Tsuru-sennin knows the technique? Can he actually perform it, or is it like with Kaiô and his Kaiô-Ken, that he knows the technique, its rules and can teach it, but is unable to master it and either can use it but automatically die from it, or just flat-out can't use it?
His Daizenshuu 7 bio says that he "can use all the techniques of the Tsuru-sen School, such as the Dodon-Pa and Kikoho", but he can't use the Taiyo-ken, because it's a "New Tsuru-sen School technique, which Tenshinhan invented on his own".
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by LeprikanGT » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:06 pm

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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Cipher » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:10 pm

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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:14 pm

Herms wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:And then, of course, there's Tenshinhan's Shin-Kô-Hô, capable of holding off even Semi-Perfect Cell, an enemy even Artificial Human #16 could not defeat. Is there any extra information in one of the guidebooks on this technique as well? I was just wondering whether it is indeed stronger than Tenshinhan's regular Ki-Kô-Hô, or just a series of Ki-Kô-Hôs, with maybe not as much power put into it as when he fired it at Nappa, fired in consecutive amounts, since it seems quite much for Tenshinhan to perform full power Ki-Kô-Hô and be able to do more than one of them without collapsing after the first couple.
Daizenshuu 4 says that it's a rapid-fire variant of the Kikoho (ie Tenshinhan didn't simply fire the Shin-Kikoho multiple times at Cell, it's just the nature of the attack to consist of multiple blasts), while Daizenshuu 7 simply says it's a strengthened version of the regular Kikoho. Based on that, I like to think it works the way it's portrayed in Attack of the Saiyans: a series of Kikoho blasts where each one is individually more powerful than a regular Kikoho.
I'll go with what Daizenshuu 4 and Attack of the Saiyans says then.
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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Does this mean that Tsuru-sennin knows the technique? Can he actually perform it, or is it like with Kaiô and his Kaiô-Ken, that he knows the technique, its rules and can teach it, but is unable to master it and either can use it but automatically die from it, or just flat-out can't use it?
His Daizenshuu 7 bio says that he "can use all the techniques of the Tsuru-sen School, such as the Dodon-Pa and Kikoho", but he can't use the Taiyo-ken, because it's a "New Tsuru-sen School technique, which Tenshinhan invented on his own".
So the Taiyô-Ken is automatically a Tsuru-sen School technique because one of its members invented it. I guess that would make Tenshinhan's Shiyô-Ken a Tsuru-sen School technique too.

The Dodonpa was Tsuru-sennin's techinque first, right? That makes it a Tsuru-sen School technique, and Tsuru-sennin's younger brother Taopaipai just copied it.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Senzu_Bean » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:11 pm

The Genki-Dama. All the other techniques are based on the user's battle power or at least in their mastery of manipulating their battle power. The Genki-Dama does not and only God knows how strong it can be.
Piccolo Daimao wrote:I think it's explained that it's a technique that draws upon the user's life force...
Life force is hardly used on Dragonball and when it is doesn't mean something other than ki.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by MajinVejitaXV » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:13 pm

The Toei Punch. Of course.

Or Gohan's whistling.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Perfect » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:20 pm

Cell's absorbing capability.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Savage68 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:42 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Which technique do you think is the most powerful in Dragon Ball?
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Ahiru77 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:21 pm

Most powerful technique ??

It's called "the Kill".
Rarely any of the z-fighter succesfully execute the technique and even with those who do, most of them need assistence.

It's the most powerful because nobody survives it. 8)

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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Bussani » Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:23 pm

Surprised no one has said this one yet:
Akumaito Beam [Devil-Mite Beam]
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Special Characteristics: A beam that expands the evil that everyone has in their heart, blowing the opponent to smithereens. After touching his fingertips to his temples and concentrating ki, he launches a swirling beam at his opponent. Those hit with the technique are wrapped in sinister light, and explode. However, this attack doesn’t affect those without an evil heart. This is Akkuman’s secret weapon that he fired in order to counter Goku’s strength, during their battle in the Devil’s Toilet, a special ring in Uranai Baba’s palace. (Daizenshuu 2, p.205)
Instant death to most people. The only evil opponents who might survive it are those who can survive exploding, like Cell and Buu.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Bardo117 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:24 pm

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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Aeon Amber » Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:38 pm

Bussani wrote:Surprised no one has said this one yet:
Akumaito Beam [Devil-Mite Beam]
First Appearance: Chapter 104
Category: special
People: Akkuman
Special Characteristics: A beam that expands the evil that everyone has in their heart, blowing the opponent to smithereens. After touching his fingertips to his temples and concentrating ki, he launches a swirling beam at his opponent. Those hit with the technique are wrapped in sinister light, and explode. However, this attack doesn’t affect those without an evil heart. This is Akkuman’s secret weapon that he fired in order to counter Goku’s strength, during their battle in the Devil’s Toilet, a special ring in Uranai Baba’s palace. (Daizenshuu 2, p.205)
Instant death to most people. The only evil opponents who might survive it are those who can survive exploding, like Cell and Buu.
Having just re-read that volume recently, I have to second this.

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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Herms » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:21 pm

Bardo117 wrote:KaMeHaMeHA.
Eh, Kame-sennin flat-out says the Kikoho has far more destructive power than the Kamehameha, and you'd think he'd be the one to know things like that.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Bardo117 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:26 pm

What about that attack that Bojack's henchmen use against Gohan? If it where handled by a stronger foe, it might be the strongest attack ever.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by penguintruth » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:27 pm

Uh, Genki Dama.

Provided you gather enough ki.
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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Bardo117 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:37 pm

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Re: Most powerful technique in the series

Post by Rocketman » Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:18 pm

Vegetto's voice. It could completely obliterate Gohan-Buu, while the entire energy of Earth, Namek and the Afterlife struggled against Kid Buu.

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