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by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:23 pm
Savage68 wrote: Gohan usually is an idiot,
Agreed!
Savage68 wrote:and he was never purposefully contributing energy to a demon. So, yea.
Doesn't matter, since he knows, that if he gets hurt he will contribute energy to the demon, yet he doesn't go SSJ 2 to prevent him himself from getting hurt(which he did), like his father did, when facing Vegeta.
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by Savage68 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:38 pm
dbgtFO wrote:Doesn't matter, since he knows, that if he gets hurt he will contribute energy to the demon, yet he doesn't go SSJ 2 to prevent him himself from getting hurt(which he did), like his father did, when facing Vegeta.
1. All of which brings us back to ---> Gohan being an idiot.
2. As it were, he
still never contributed a thing to Buu. Because he knows that damage is the key, and he had yet to sustain any damage.
3. I don't think he was a regular Super Saiyan to begin with, so we may as well just drop it.
4. You're sorta... over-abusing the uasge of commas.
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by Savage68 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:39 pm
dbgtFO wrote:Doesn't matter, since he knows, that if he gets hurt he will contribute energy to the demon, yet he doesn't go SSJ 2 to prevent him himself from getting hurt(which he did), like his father did, when facing Vegeta.
1. All of which brings us back to ---> Gohan being an idiot.
2. As it were, he
still never contributed a thing to Buu. Because he knows that damage is the key, and he had yet to sustain any damage.
3. I don't think he was a regular Super Saiyan to begin with, so we may as well just drop it.
4. You're sorta... over-abusing the usage of commas.
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by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
Savage68 wrote:dbgtFO wrote:Doesn't matter, since he knows, that if he gets hurt he will contribute energy to the demon, yet he doesn't go SSJ 2 to prevent him himself from getting hurt(which he did), like his father did, when facing Vegeta.
1. All of which brings us back to ---> Gohan being an idiot.
2. As it were, he
still never contributed a thing to Buu. Because he knows that damage is the key, and he had yet to sustain any damage.
3. I don't think he was a regular Super Saiyan to begin with, so we may as well just drop it.
4. You're sorta... over-abusing the usage of commas.
Gohan being hit by Dabra's energy ball was definetly taking damage, and we know he received some, considering Babidi's statement.
And yeah let's just drop it..
And I don't man, english isn't my first language anyways, so I just try to remember the rules about when to use commas.
If I'm abusing it? I don't know, I just use them, where I feel it's right to put them.
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by p123 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:26 pm
Gohan is drawn as a SSJ. Gohan at the Budokai, Majin Vegeta, Goku , Vegeta on the Kai's planet, are all drawn with sustained lightning for more than one frame. Hell even, Dabura's blast has lightning around it.
Nothing in the drawings suggest Gohan was a SSJ2. Goku makes a comment regarding Dabura's strength. Vegeta and Goku both laugh off Dabura's power. If you think PC is laughable at this stage of the game, that's beyond me.
So you have to options
1) Did Goku make a funny comment
2) Or did the author intentionally leave out lightning, imply that Gohan is a SSJ by statements, and get the aura/art wrong , which he has never showed previously?
This should be on an IQ test seriously, this is a no brainer.
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by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:49 pm
Yeah p123, but Savage68 thinks he was a SSJ 2 before the story went back to the main plot, ie. somewhere in between they began the fight up till right before we see them again.
I agree with you of course, as you can see in one of my previous qoutes.
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by p123 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:52 pm
Oh really? So Gohan was fighting Dabura as a SSJ2 when we can't see, then when we can see he someone magically lost SSJ2 and is fighting as a SSJ for what reason?
That's a twisted POV if you ask me.
Gohan needs rage to turn SSJ2. No rage, no SSJ2. Flat out.
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by dbgtFO » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:55 pm
p123 wrote:Oh really? So Gohan was fighting Dabura as a SSJ2 when we can't see, then when we can see he someone magically lost SSJ2 and is fighting as a SSJ for what reason?
That's a twisted POV if you ask me.
Tell that to Savage68
p123 wrote:Gohan needs rage to turn SSJ2. No rage, no SSJ2. Flat out.
Go to the previous page then, and maybe you'll learn something new

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by p123 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:46 pm
What about rage Gohan? It definitley isn't anything new.
Gohan uses rage for SSJ2 and turns SSJ2 twice.
1) Cell
2) Kibito
But but but but but but wait p123, Gohan can't use a delayed rage catalyst it doesn't make sense! Oh wait, that's right, it's implied that Gohan used a delayed rage catalyst to turn SSJ in the first place???? WATTTT?