"Top 10 Male Mangaka Who Draw The Cutest Girls"-Toriyama 9th

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"Top 10 Male Mangaka Who Draw The Cutest Girls"-Toriyama 9th

Post by Adamant » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:14 pm

This story was passed on to me:

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/0 ... est-girls/

Bizarre. Sadly, there's absolutely no information given concerning who was polled or how the poll was held, so it's hard to put into some sort of perspective. I take it Toriyama's presence at least hints towards people giving one of the few names they could think of, though.
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Post by Ahiru77 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:22 pm

Sankaku....Animesuki takes "news" from this site as seriously as E!. :lol:

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:18 pm

Damn, everyone in the comments section was bashing Toriyama... People don't find his girls cute? Sure, they're not number one material, but I like them well enough. (My top three would be Masakazu Katsura, who draws the most amazing females imaginable, Takeshi Obata, and Hiroya Oku (Gantz).)
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Post by SonEric84 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:34 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Damn, everyone in the comments section was bashing Toriyama... People don't find his girls cute? Sure, they're not number one material, but I like them well enough. (My top three would be Masakazu Katsura, who draws the most amazing females imaginable, Takeshi Obata, and Hiroya Oku (Gantz).)

Based on the fact that he did character designs for Iria Zeiram: The Animation alone, I'll agree with that one.
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Post by Adamant » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:44 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Damn, everyone in the comments section was bashing Toriyama...
From what I can tell from the comments on this and other "articles" I looked at, the majority of commenters on that site seem to be your average modern, American anime nerd who watch all the newest "moe" series and have no other knowledge of Toriyama than "he made that deebeezee shit I watched on Cartoon Network when I was 8".

Some other "article" listing poll results for most influential series had page up and page down of angry comments on why people would vote for a dumb sports series like Slam Dunk. These aren't exactly people who know anything about the industry.
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Post by TonyTheTiger » Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:48 pm

I'm surprised Satoshi Urushihara wasn't on the list. His entire shtick is about cute girls and the perversions surrounding them. Though I guess there's a difference between "cute" and "sexually appealing."
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Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Damn, everyone in the comments section was bashing Toriyama...
From what I can tell from the comments on this and other "articles" I looked at, the majority of commenters on that site seem to be your average modern, American anime nerd who watch all the newest "moe" series and have no other knowledge of Toriyama than "he made that deebeezee shit I watched on Cartoon Network when I was 8".
I can sort of see the complaints about his position. Toriyama isn't specifically known for cute girls like so many other artists. Though I'd put him higher than a few of the others on the list, myself, so...yeah.

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http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/10/2 ... nd-traits/ :lol:

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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:09 pm

Wow, no Watsuki Nobuhiro? Rurôni Kenshin's Kaoru and Misao were really 'cute'.

I can understand Toriyama being on the list, too. A lot of his early stuff was 'cute', beyond just his females.
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Post by Herms » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:52 pm

I will say this, at least Toriyama’s women look like, well, women, and not just fetish objects. They’re stylized of course, but their proportions aren’t skewed outside of realistic bounds, and Toriyama goes through the effort of making them look like they actually have muscles, bones, and organs under their skin (I remember in the joint interview between Oda and Toriyama in some One Piece book, Oda noted how in the scene where Ran-Fan strips down to her undies, Toriyama drew very detailed shoulder blades on her, or something like that). He doesn’t just slap the largest boobs he can draw on top of the thinnest waist he can draw and call it a day, unlike some manga artists.
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Post by Perfect » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:27 pm

Those people are idiots, they also bashed Oda and various others.
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Post by Scarz » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:38 pm

Herms wrote:He doesn’t just slap the largest boobs he can draw on top of the thinnest waist he can draw and call it a day, unlike some manga artists.
*cough!* Eiichiro Oda *cough!*

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:44 pm

Herms wrote:I will say this, at least Toriyama’s women look like, well, women, and not just fetish objects. They’re stylized of course, but their proportions aren’t skewed outside of realistic bounds, and Toriyama goes through the effort of making them look like they actually have muscles, bones, and organs under their skin (I remember in the joint interview between Oda and Toriyama in some One Piece book, Oda noted how in the scene where Ran-Fan strips down to her undies, Toriyama drew very detailed shoulder blades on her, or something like that). He doesn’t just slap the largest boobs he can draw on top of the thinnest waist he can draw and call it a day, unlike some manga artists.
Oda was also obsessed with Ran-Fan's armpits, when she's holding her arm up... Funny guy.

Takeshi Obata also draws good women. They're pretty realistic, and you never get the sense that he's drawing them just for the sake of fanservice. Besides maybe Misa from Death Note, but even she didn't have gigantic F-cup boobs.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:51 am

Hate to rag on Kami-sama, but I can think of at least five other Manga artists more deserving of that spot. Not saying that the way he draws Bulma and Fleurette isn't cute, though.

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Post by DBfan4life » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:33 am

It's cool Toriyama is in there, but I'm sort of surprised Oh Great isn't there.

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Post by Big Momma » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:41 pm

Is that an ad for "Sailor and the 7 Balls" at the bottom there? :wink:
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Post by Darkbloom » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:38 pm

The picture at the top isn't cute at all. It's crossing into the uncanny valley. Scares the hell out of me.

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Post by Bardo117 » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:56 pm

The one at #1 sucks.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:24 pm

Is the chick they used to represent Toriyama's art a Dragon Quest character? Also I'm glad they chose to place him on this list instead of a person where all their characters look like girls.
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Post by NeoKING » Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:45 pm

DBfan4life wrote:It's cool Toriyama is in there, but I'm sort of surprised Oh Great isn't there.
It's a ranking for the "cutest girls artists," not "sexiest girls artists." Though, I do agree with you completely; I was expecting him to be in the top 3 at least. The fact that Oda is there but Oh!Great isn't is very strange.

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Post by johnboy1 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:27 am

Big Momma wrote:Is that an ad for "Sailor and the 7 Balls" at the bottom there? :wink:
Goddamn, what an utter piece of shit that was. It's not even good for wanking material because the characters are obviously traced and the animation is unbelievably lazy. I'm sorry, but I hold my porn up to higher standards.
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Re: "Top 10 Male Mangaka Who Draw The Cutest Girls"-Toriyama 9th

Post by The Time Traveller » Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:32 am

Do they even know who they're talking about? Can they even SEE the picture?! I don't really see how that looks exactly like Vegeta or Goku, or even Arale.

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