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by The GREAT D. » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:51 pm
xzero wrote:Just a quick update. Looks like the next two episodes of Kai air on Thursday at 8 and 8:30. No confirmation on next week yet. Only 4 more Freeza episodes to go after this
Additionally, we only have 2 more episodes in general with Chris Ayers unless they bring back the hell filler in the end of the Buu fight (I doubt the Paikuhan stuff will appear in Kai). Enjoy it, folks. Besides the video games, this is probably the last chance to hear his brilliant performance.
No it's not. There's still the 2 Trunks episodes he appears in. So that gives us 4 more episodes of Chris Ayres left. Still not enough though!

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by Mewzard » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:44 pm
According to my guide, the first episode has Bluma in it...NEW CHARACTER?!
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Joking aside, can't wait for more dubbed Kai goodness. More Goku vs Freeza can't be ignored. And won't. Good thing it's after finals.
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by linkdude20002001 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:50 pm
Hahaha. Wow... The guy who writes these guides is surely someone on this forum. Where else would you find someone who uses
Bluma?
But sadly it's probably just a typo...

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by ThunderPX » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:26 pm
As long as they don't use Big Green, we've got nothing to worry about.

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by xzero » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:29 pm
The GREAT D. wrote:xzero wrote:Just a quick update. Looks like the next two episodes of Kai air on Thursday at 8 and 8:30. No confirmation on next week yet. Only 4 more Freeza episodes to go after this
Additionally, we only have 2 more episodes in general with Chris Ayers unless they bring back the hell filler in the end of the Buu fight (I doubt the Paikuhan stuff will appear in Kai). Enjoy it, folks. Besides the video games, this is probably the last chance to hear his brilliant performance.
No it's not. There's still the 2 Trunks episodes he appears in. So that gives us 4 more episodes of Chris Ayres left. Still not enough though!

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The "2 more episodes in general" was intended to refer to the Trunks episodes. I guess I could have just said that...
Still, I think Ayers and Z Kai in general make the best argument for a complete, brand new redub when the Z series gets a complete Blu Ray release. I would be all over that if it happened.
Mewzard wrote:Joking aside, can't wait for more dubbed Kai goodness. More Goku vs Freeza can't be ignored. And won't. Good thing it's after finals.
My last final this semester is Thursday from 6-9pm. I don't get Nicktoons on TV, so in theory, I'll be able to watch both episodes online immediately after taking the exam when I get home. And I will need the break.
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by Daimo-Rukiri » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:00 am
xzero wrote:The GREAT D. wrote:xzero wrote:Just a quick update. Looks like the next two episodes of Kai air on Thursday at 8 and 8:30. No confirmation on next week yet. Only 4 more Freeza episodes to go after this
Additionally, we only have 2 more episodes in general with Chris Ayers unless they bring back the hell filler in the end of the Buu fight (I doubt the Paikuhan stuff will appear in Kai). Enjoy it, folks. Besides the video games, this is probably the last chance to hear his brilliant performance.
No it's not. There's still the 2 Trunks episodes he appears in. So that gives us 4 more episodes of Chris Ayres left. Still not enough though!

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The "2 more episodes in general" was intended to refer to the Trunks episodes. I guess I could have just said that...
Still, I think Ayers and Z Kai in general make the best argument for a complete, brand new redub when the Z series gets a complete Blu Ray release. I would be all over that if it happened.
Mewzard wrote:Joking aside, can't wait for more dubbed Kai goodness. More Goku vs Freeza can't be ignored. And won't. Good thing it's after finals.
My last final this semester is Thursday from 6-9pm. I don't get Nicktoons on TV, so in theory, I'll be able to watch both episodes online immediately after taking the exam when I get home. And I will need the break.
I don't see a reason for Z, yes there would be filler dubbed and garlic jr. I don't see the reason for Z.
Now, Dragon Ball on the other hand NEEEEEDS It!!!
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by xzero » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:11 am
The reason for Z is that it's still the series proper, whereas Kai is more of a director's cut. The reason for a redub of Z is pretty much summed up in two words: season three.
Even after they redubbed it in part for the Orange Brick release, they left the two key characters' dubs as-is, which is a huge problem.
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by linkdude20002001 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:09 am
I'd rather they re-dubbed DB. But they'd need to do so with an accurate script and new voice actors for Gyu-Maoh (sounds like his brain's broken), Turtle (also sounds like his brain's broken), Oolong (sounds too old, and not perverted), Yajirove (sounds like Shin-chan's fat loser of a neighbor), and Tenshinhan (sounds angry and stiff). 95% of the cast is great as is, and with the new voice actors for Gokuh, Bulma, and Pu-ehr, it's already heading in the right direction.

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by B » Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:02 pm
FUNi would be lazy and "re-dub" Z in the sense of "new voices." They aren't going to bother fixing Z's mongoloidian script.
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by linkdude20002001 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:52 pm
But they fixed it for Kai...
Well, hey, they gave us the Dragon Boxes! Anything's possible!

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by penguintruth » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:06 pm
I'd be happy if they just redubbed all of the movies and called it quits.
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by DB_Fan1991 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:24 pm
penguintruth wrote:I'd be happy if they just redubbed all of the movies and called it quits.
For consistency they should. Wait a minute this is FUNi and Dragon Ball we're talking about there is no consistency.
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by Turtle Marked Stone » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:57 pm
penguintruth wrote:I'd be happy if they just redubbed all of the movies and called it quits.
This really needs to happen, I fear it wont but I'd like it to. Even for the movies with a decent script we still have some major voice inconsistencies going on (be it the actual voices or the acting that goes along with them.)
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by SolarBlade52 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:29 am
I highly doubt that they are going to redub Z. Seeing as how Kai is handling well, there really is no point in redubbing Z.
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by SuperSaiyan3Goku » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:26 pm
In my eyes, their dub of Dragon Ball Kai is their "Second chance" at dubbing Z.
I mean, all Kai is is Z with less filler.
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by ohaimynameiserik » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:43 am
The new episodes are out, and I have to say the worst part about them was that they're the edited versions. The only things that bothered me were phrases like "you're going down", or a hit reaction that I know exists being cut out.
Honestly, I don't have any complaints about these performances... save Kaio.
... Okay and maybe Kami saying "Come in, King Kai" was pretty stupid, too... THIS DUB'S STILL GOOD, DAMMIT!!

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by penguintruth » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:55 am
It does bother me that they add in lines here and there. However, many of the regular lines are just about word-for-word from the Japanese script. Especially many of Freeza's lines. So all and all, I'm pretty satisfied with the script.
Performances were excellent from nearly all parties, except Schemmel's Kaio. Schemmel's been on a roll with Goku. And Ayres' Freeza still blows me away.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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by ohaimynameiserik » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:03 am
penguintruth wrote:It does bother me that they add in lines here and there. However, many of the regular lines are just about word-for-word from the Japanese script. Especially many of Freeza's lines. So all and all, I'm pretty satisfied with the script.
Performances were excellent from nearly all parties, except Schemmel's Kaio. Schemmel's been on a roll with Goku. And Ayres' Freeza still blows me away.
Those screams as Goku have been pretty consistent. I was hoping he wouldn't be belting out the same old "eeeyyyaaaaAAAAHHHH?!"
And he hasn't. He sounds pissed. And it makes me warm and fuzzy in my stomach.
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by DB_Fan1991 » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:16 am
So Freeza's line about teaching Goku geology was in the original as that really sounded like a stupid TV line to me?
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by penguintruth » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:21 am
DB_Fan1991 wrote:So Freeza's line about teaching Goku geology was in the original as that really sounded like a stupid TV line to me?
I'm pretty sure it wasn't quite like that in the Japanese version. But given how accurate Freeza's been, I forgave it.
Kentai wrote:Son Gokuu is a fascinating character anyway, because he is - at face value, anyway - an idiot savant. The victim of violent head trauma as an infant [...] he's a simple bumpkin with a fair share of brain damage who's natural talents to work out what's wrong compensate for his broad lack of common sense. But he's also a fighter, through and through [...] he fight until he has, in no uncertain terms, beaten his enemy on terms they can both acknowledge. He doesn't want to kill anyone, or even prove that he can win... he just wants to know he can. He's an ineffably charming bastard who's manly leanings were really incendental, and yes, the fact that he was voiced by a squeaky woman made the combination perhaps all the more charming.
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