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Hellspawn28 wrote:So who in Dragon Ball would be a good match up for Nova (Richard Rider)?
Full-Power Nova won't pass SSJ3 Gotenks' level if he can't destroy a dimension wall simply because Trion Juggernaut is superior to Full-Power Nova.
Hellspawn28 wrote:lonewolf wrote:The hearsay about Odin destroying the galaxy was a lie, there's no scan showing Odin destroyed the galaxy in a single shot. If you're using that feat for Odin, we might as well use Majin-Buu as a universal buster since it was stated by Old Kaiohshin and Goku. MJJ was reduced to skeleton by a non-city buster attack, MJJ is weak in defense ala Babidi.
MJJ can not solo DB? 616 MJJ warp was able to effect across the entire omniverse, threatening all of reality. The Fruy only killed him since he was in void seeing that he needs a reality in order for his powers to work. Also he pretty much reform after getting reduced to a skeleton afterwards.
He would have no chance to reform because DB characters would reduce him to dust or erase him from existence. My vote should go to MJJ if he had that strong defense but no, after seeing him reduced to skeleton, it's a big no, most likely X-men or Fantastic Four or Avengers could beat him with good strategy. MJJ is powerful but can be killed.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I doubt anyone in anyone in DBZGT can beat The Destroyer since not even the blasts from a host of Celestials was able to hurt it.
The blast from the host Celestial was not a planet buster. Why Marvel fans keep on thinking that every blast that cosmics' releases is an equivalent of a thousand planet buster?
lonewolf wrote:Odin's galaxy feats where legit since it was stated directly by an omniscient narrator. Other characters like Surtur, have destroyed Galaxies before and Odin beat him from what I can remember. Also Marvel has powerful characters Blackheart, Dormammu, Molecule Man, Kubik, Void Sentry, Shuma-Gorarth, Galactus (If he is not a very hungry rate), Exitar the Execultioner, and several other characters that have shows well above anything in DBZ.
Iron Man crashes the H.A.M.M.E.R. carrier into Void Sentry, then the Void reverts to Bob Reynolds. H.A.M.M.E.R. carrier's explosion is less powerful to DB, one ki blast and that would revert Void to Bob Reynolds.
Black Heart is powerful indeed but out-skilled by The Punisher, Ghost Rider and Wolverine. I wouldn't buy this if I were you.
As for Exitar the Executioner, we never seen his full power yet, all I can say is full-strength hammer blow(that shook the the planet Pangoria) from Thor only managed to punch a small hole in his armor. If Thor could do that with a force that can shake the whole planet, why can't DB?
Shuma-Gorath's is virtually omnipotent in his native dimension. And it is unknown if he can ever truly be killed, it's pointless to discuss some statements if he can do that or anything without clear evidence.
I didn't say DB is stronger than Marvel/DC, what I'm saying is 85% to 95% of Marvel/DC would get killed. The names you mentioned above was not even 1% of Marvel/DC characters.
lonewolf wrote:Even so, other powerful characters like Parallax was hurt by a attack from Green Arrow in Zero Hour. The same Parallax who beat The Specter and had the power to reset the whole universe.
He's still using Hal Jordan as it's host, power up doesn't necessarily mean increase in defense, this isn't DragonBall where power up is equivalent in defense.
Savage68 wrote:lonewolf wrote:I'm just saying, you didn't show anything that surpasses SSJ3 Gotenks' in terms of punching power.
Um, I'm fairly certain that punching someone
from the Earth to the Moon requires more force than punching a crater into the Earth's surface.
Don't change the topic, it's not an equivalent feat because I'm talking about the
destruction scale and now you brought up about the calculated force, the author didn't generally calculate any formula for the force, this is fiction. Yes Superman can punch from the Earth to Moon or from the Sun to Earth, but there is no DragonBall feats to do a relevant crossover comparison to that, what I mean is there is no equivalent feats for that. The whole point here is which is more destructive or damaging or who can hit harder?
Blood lusted Superman punched WonderWoman from Sun to Earth = the destruction scale was smaller
Superman punched Orion from Earth to Moon = the destruction scale was smaller
SSJ3 Gotenks punched Super Boo from stratosphere to the ground = the destruction scale was larger
To make it short, SSJ3 Gotenks' punch hits harder than Superman's.
It was not stated by the narrator, but by Odin or Infinity and there is no narration captions but character captions. And it didn't blow-up the galaxy in a single shot. Look, it couldn't destroy the Planet Earth in an instant.
Look, it couldn't destroy the Planet Earth in an instant.
Hellspawn28 wrote: you're using that feat for Odin, we might as well use Majin-Buu as a universal buster since it was stated by Old Kaiohshin and Goku.
Are you talking about when Goku said "That the universe will be done for"? Goku means that no one would able to stop Buu if Goku or Vegeta to stop him. Nothing about Buu destroying a universe.
He could have said that but Goku chose to said that the universe will be done for. The Odin feat was not stated by the narrator, I could use this as evidence that Buu is superior to Odin who can make the galaxy fall but couldn't destroy the Earth in an instant.
