Should "Dragon Box: The Movies" be released on Blu-ray?

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Re: Should "Dragon Box: The Movies" be released on Blu-ray?

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:31 pm

1080p isn't the highest available resolution, just TV resolution. Actually that's changed as 2160p TVs are now being made.

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Post by Ringworm128 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:34 pm

Castor Troy wrote:It would be like scans coming to life! :shock:
That would look awesome.
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:1080p isn't the highest available resolution, just TV resolution. Actually that's changed as 2160p TVs are now being made.
The DBX look ok in 1080p especialy the movies. But I'm not sure about 2160p they would look pretty blurry and that would be the case other for series to.

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Re: Should "Dragon Box: The Movies" be released on Blu-ray?

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:57 pm

720p would work out the best for the movies, 1080p kinda pushes it.
And 2160p is the highest available tv resolution today.

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:04 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:1080p isn't the highest available resolution, just TV resolution. Actually that's changed as 2160p TVs are now being made.
How about 4320p?

@AnimeMakkuo A proper remastering from the original film reel would make the movies looks fantastic on 1080p.
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Post by MarcFBR » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:05 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:720p would work out the best for the movies, 1080p kinda pushes it.
Even with no difference, 1080p would still be better due to the way most TVs scale.
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:And 2160p is the highest available tv resolution today.
Not quite.

First, starting with QHD they will be switching the names over to the theatrical designation, so it'll be called 4K.

Second, the few TVs that accept that generally won't accept anything resolution wise above 1080p (a few will, most won't.) They are generally for overly rich people who want to watch multiple sports at a time without losing resolution info.

Resolution doesn't matter if you can't do anything with it, so the only thing relevant right now (outside of the quality they digitize cel footage at) is 1080p and lower.
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Post by MetalMadness » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:17 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:1080p isn't the highest available resolution, just TV resolution. Actually that's changed as 2160p TVs are now being made.
Well you would have to be sitting literally inches from the TV to actually notice and appreciate the difference at 2160p.

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Post by MarcFBR » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:35 am

MetalMadness wrote:Well you would have to be sitting literally inches from the TV to actually notice and appreciate the difference at 2160p.
No, you wouldn't need to be literally 'inches'. With a 42 inch television you'd notice the MAX difference if you sat roughly 3 feet (this doesn't take into account quirks that can affect visual quality like brightness or any other number of things), but you'd still notice quite an improvement even with more of a distance.
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Post by Kakarotto » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:16 pm

Did Toei release any of the Dragon Boxes or singles in BR in Japan? And if not why would they give Funimation a copy of it on BR? In my opinion Funimation should not tamper with the original Dragon Box masters. You never know what the end result might be with Funimation.
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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:28 pm

Kakarotto wrote:Did Toei release any of the Dragon Boxes or singles in BR in Japan?
As of now, no.

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:00 pm

While this is far from done and the blacks are..um a bit green here"well just the first rendering anyway just for the colors alone" Not including blacks, highlights, and general lighting and the fact that I'm going through each frame doing this.

but this does give a somewhat idea of what they would look at 720p, 1080p was just pushing it for the series.
I obviously missed a few pixels when selecting this frame but I like how it's coming out so far, the colors are becoming crisp(the water scene from the first few seconds if gorgeous!) Blue's are becoming vivid and the skin tones are becoming very natural, problem is while doing this it did fade the blacks so obviously i have to go back and work on the blacks and whites.. as the OP is ugh..not that great atm..

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Even if Toei did this, this is probably what it'd look like or just upscaled like what I'm pretty much doing..

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Post by Taku128 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:34 pm

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MetalMadness wrote:Well you would have to be sitting literally inches from the TV to actually notice and appreciate the difference at 2160p.
No, you wouldn't need to be literally 'inches'. With a 42 inch television you'd notice the MAX difference if you sat roughly 3 feet (this doesn't take into account quirks that can affect visual quality like brightness or any other number of things), but you'd still notice quite an improvement even with more of a distance.
But at that point aren't you too close to actually see the entire picture? At a certain point don't you have to get so close to tell the difference that it actually hinders the viewing experience?
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Post by MarcFBR » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:47 pm

Taku128 wrote:But at that point aren't you too close to actually see the entire picture? At a certain point don't you have to get so close to tell the difference that it actually hinders the viewing experience?
As I said, that would be for the max difference. You would still notice a difference.

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:Even if Toei did this, this is probably what it'd look like or just upscaled like what I'm pretty much doing..
You've given no context or comparison to what you are scaling so everything you have said is moot.
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Post by KKZ » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:02 pm

I think the Blu-ray Double Features of the movies look great as they are, so a Blu-ray version of Dragon Box: The Movies honestly seems arbitrary to me... I'm seriously pumped for the Blu-ray release of Yu Yu Hakusho coming out in the States and I'm definitely buying them as they're released. I'd be similarly psyched for properly remastered Blu-ray releases of Dragon Ball, Z, and GT.
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Krillin's head is also pretty big like a balloon. :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote][quote="Thanos"]Eh... it gets kinda old hearing elitists say things like "IT SHOULD HAVE ENDED WHEN GOKU MET BULMA"[/quote]

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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 pm

We have NO idea if FUNimation received the HD Remasteres from Japan(for yu yu hakusho). It's probably just an upscale, I could be wrong.. Maybe they just couldn't get the Japanese box art?

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Post by KKZ » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:18 pm

I really hope it's not just an upscale, I have the latest DVD releases and the quality is merely serviceable. :? I can't imagine the Japanese masters for Yu Yu Hakusho being very expensive, and it hardly seems productive for FUNimation to spend money re-distributing the same content only with slightly better picture quality based off their own masters...
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Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:21 pm

Still why would they use the dvd's cover art?.. why upscale?.. Meh I have it preordered and I'll be ranting like crazy if it's an upscale.

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Post by KKZ » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:23 pm

Maybe it's just easier to slap the Blu-ray logo onto their existing box art templates than to design something entirely new based off the Japanese box art?
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Post by MarcFBR » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:25 pm

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:Still why would they use the dvd's cover art?.. why upscale?.. Meh I have it preordered and I'll be ranting like crazy if it's an upscale.
Stop acting like an idiot.

You've said it's probably just an upscale, that you've preordered it, and you'll be mad if it's an upscale.

You've ordered it with the belief it's an upscale, if you get an upscale, you have no right to be mad.


Which is besides the point. It isn't an upscale from the footage I've seen.

Your entire reasoning for it being an upscale is they are using their own cover art for it.
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