Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
-
dbgtFO
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 7977
- Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
-
Contact:
Post
by dbgtFO » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:30 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:dbgtFO wrote:
I think Raditz lied about him hanging out with Nappa or Vegeta and it was him, who was the one sent to a weak planet as a baby, which would support the Bardock Special somewhat...
What reason does Raditz have to lie?
He does not want to be grouped together with his weakass bro IMO.
Senzu_Bean wrote:The only reason Raditz went to Earth was cause he, Vegeta and Nappa aren't strong enough conquer whatever planet they ere to conquer. Of course they banded together.
Yeah, after Planet Vegeta's destruction.
-
Piccolo Daimao
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 8749
- Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am
Post
by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:44 pm
dbgtFO wrote:Piccolo Daimao wrote:dbgtFO wrote:
I think Raditz lied about him hanging out with Nappa or Vegeta and it was him, who was the one sent to a weak planet as a baby, which would support the Bardock Special somewhat...
What reason does Raditz have to lie?
He does not want to be grouped together with his weakass bro IMO.
I don't really see anything to support that. I just think it's a bit of a stretch. Just because he may or may not have been sent off to a weak planet as a baby doesn't mean he's suddenly just as crappy as Goku. They are both low-class Saiyans, only Goku's much weaker. Why should he care anyway? He's just explaining their story to him and only came to Earth to recruit him into conquering that planet they were having trouble with.
We don't have any reason to assume Raditz was suddenly lying to explain away something that probably wasn't even planned that far ahead. We don't even hear about classes until Vegeta's speech to Goku before their battle, and before that, Vegeta and Nappa are just Saiyans who are stronger than Raditz.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
-
dbgtFO
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 7977
- Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
-
Contact:
Post
by dbgtFO » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:06 pm
Piccolo Daimao wrote:I just think it's a bit of a stretch.
Of course it is. I'm trying to give my own desperate explanation of a supposed plothole, so it'll end up as a stretch sooner or later.
-
Dabooyaka
- Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 266
- Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:43 pm
- Location: Orlando, Fl
-
Contact:
Post
by Dabooyaka » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:35 pm
Well, its not like Goku could have been any help. He had no tail, and a power level of 422..
-
Piccolo Daimao
- Kicks it Old-School
- Posts: 8749
- Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:23 am
Post
by Piccolo Daimao » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:56 am
Dabooyaka wrote:Well, its not like Goku could have been any help. He had no tail, and a power level of 422..
Goku's battle power was 416. But Raditz didn't know how strong Goku was, nor if he had a tail or not.
Holden Caulfield in [b][i]The Catcher in the Rye[/i][/b] wrote:I hope to hell when I do die somebody has sense enough to just dump me in the river or something. Anything except sticking me in a goddam cemetery. People coming and putting a bunch of flowers on your stomach on Sunday, and all that crap. Who wants flowers when you're dead? Nobody.
-
macho_man
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 339
- Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:46 pm
Post
by macho_man » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:11 am
@Herms, do you think Super Saiyan Bardock could possibly be the true legendary Super Saiyan, according to your timeline and the one of the Episode Of Bardock by Ooishi Naho? Thanks.
-
hleV
- Banned
- Posts: 3325
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:15 pm
- Location: Lithuania
Post
by hleV » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:14 am
macho_man wrote:@Herms, do you think Super Saiyan Bardock could possibly be the true legendary Super Saiyan, according to your timeline and the one of the Episode Of Bardock by Ooishi Naho? Thanks.
Bardock was never a Super Saiyan to begin with, Episode of Bardock is just a what-if scenario.
-
TheDevilsCorpse
- Moderator
- Posts: 11378
- Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
-
Contact:
Post
by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:10 am
hleV wrote:macho_man wrote:@Herms, do you think Super Saiyan Bardock could possibly be the true legendary Super Saiyan, according to your timeline and the one of the Episode Of Bardock by Ooishi Naho? Thanks.
Bardock was never a Super Saiyan to begin with, Episode of Bardock is just a what-if scenario.
Not according to the magazine, it shares the same continuity as the Bardock TV special. You can chose not to include it in your personal canon if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that Episode of Bardock is still described as a sequel to the television special and not a what-if.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
-
Luke Groundwalker
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 351
- Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:20 am
Post
by Luke Groundwalker » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:02 pm
Hrm if he is I doubt it ties directly into the anime canon necessarily.
For example Vegeta basically implies the Legendary Super Saiyan to be this terrible thing of some sort. Basically when he breaks down emotionally after discovering Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan always implied, to me, that to a Saiyan the REAL Legendary Super Saiyan would be something to fear.
But I dunno, I don't think there is any indications that he's going to become this.
-
Herms
- Kanzenshuu Admin Emeritus
- Posts: 10550
- Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:40 pm
- Location: Jupiter
-
Contact:
Post
by Herms » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:52 pm
macho_man wrote:@Herms, do you think Super Saiyan Bardock could possibly be the true legendary Super Saiyan, according to your timeline and the one of the Episode Of Bardock by Ooishi Naho? Thanks.
Well it's possible, but we're really going to have to wait for the final chapter to know.
Luke Groundwalker wrote:For example Vegeta basically implies the Legendary Super Saiyan to be this terrible thing of some sort. Basically when he breaks down emotionally after discovering Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan always implied, to me, that to a Saiyan the REAL Legendary Super Saiyan would be something to fear.
In the main series Vegeta just says the Super Saiyan will be stronger than any other Saiyan could be, but Ginyu says the Super Saiyan is supposed to love slaughter and destruction, and that Goku's too nice to be one. Bardock does wipe out planets for a living, so that description could fit him, but I do kinda doubt Naho's going to conclude the mini-series by having Bardock become an unstoppable destructive force. Seems too dark for her. But she could make Bardock a nice(r) Super Saiyan and still have the legend be based on him, and then just explain away/ignore the inconsistencies. But again, we'll just have to wait and see.
-
macho_man
- Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 339
- Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:46 pm
Post
by macho_man » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:51 am
Thanks Herms.
