Plot Holes?

[SSJ2bardock]

Guys my friend just asked me to give him some examples of plot holes within the series, but I can't really seem to think of any. I swear I remember it coming up here before, so I need your help.

I'm looking for legitimate plot holes, also things that happened in the anime or with filler don't really count, so thanks in advance.

[GamingBuddha]

The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Goku looking for the Dragon Balls right after the 21st Budokai. It had only been 8 months since Oolong's wish for panties, so they should have still been rocks.

[LeprikanGT]

Wouldn't the anime and filler be the same thing?

[Jackal puFF]

Goku going all the way to the moon with his power pole? Maybe?

I'm still confused how Oolong can transform into a robot and then magically have soup appear.

Oh, and Bardock being able to talk and breathe in space will always be a mystery.

[lash]

Inconsistencies:

Kaioken times 2.
Evil Buu & Pure Buu.

[Fox666]

Vegeta said he couldn't wear the little (or how is that race called) armor model because they were too small. But don't they stretch as much as he can use it in Oozaru form?

Nail mention that Namek Dragon Balls grant 3 wishes. It seems like everybody forgot about that when they summon Porunga, despite that their deal with Vegeta was all about it.

Trunks mentioning no.19 and no.20 instead of no.17 and no.18.

Goku going all the way to the moon with his power pole? Maybe?

This is a good one. It happens right in the beggining of the series

I'm still confused how Oolong can transform into a robot and then magically have soup appear.

If he can create an iron-like armor from nothing, it's not really a surprise.

Oh, and Bardock being able to talk and breathe in space will always be a mystery.

Well, he might still be in the atmosphere. The manga don't show almost anything, besides a panel. (and of course you won't die instantly in the space)

[LeprikanGT]

I'm preeeetty sure you die instantly in space without a suit or ship.

[ggf31416]

Oh, and Bardock being able to talk and breathe in space will always be a mystery.

Well, he might still be in the atmosphere. The manga don't show almost anything, besides a panel. (and of course you won't die instantly in the space)

Since the primary use of oxygen is produce energy for the cells perhaps saiyajins can power their cells with their own ki reserves, surviving as long as their ki reserves don't run out. Also some cells in humans can produce energy without oxygen (e.g. muscles) but it's quite inefficient.

[Adamant]

Halfway through the Red Ribbon arc, Goku and friends go to Kame Sennin's island to give him the diamond they found, and Lunch steals it and takes off in their only helicopter. Shortly after, Blue arrives and ties everyone up with a bomb, before leaving with the Dragonballs in his own plane. Lunch then returns in the stolen helicopter and rescues everybody, and Goku takes off after Blue.
...then for the rest of the arc, Bulma is apparantly "stranded" on Kame Sennin's island with no way of getting off, even though the helicopter is still there.

There. That's an actual, legitimate plot hole.

[kaialone]

The Boo plothole, but then again I think most people agree that we shouldn't try to make sense out of a magic pink goo guy.

Also, what happened to Babidi, Boo and co. in Future Trunks' timeline.

And in the Japanese version Cell says that he can regenerate as long as the nucleus in his head in intact but earlier Goku blew his head off with an attack.

Also Mr. Popo is able to summon Shen Long in the Namek Saga even though he had been summoned a few weeks prior to revive Goku. One could argue that this is due to God dying and being revived, but when The Namek Elder died and then came back and Polunga was revived, he could only grant one more wish instead of them being reset to three wishes.

[TripleRach]

Also Mr. Popo is able to summon Shen Long in the Namek Saga even though he had been summoned a few weeks prior to revive Goku. One could argue that this is due to God dying and being revived, but when The Namek Elder died and then came back and Polunga was revived, he could only grant one more wish instead of them being reset to three wishes.

That's a good point, but keep in mind that Porunga was actually active (and the Dragon Balls weren't stone yet) when the elder died, so the situations were a little different. It's possible it just works differently when reviving a summoned dragon.

And there's also the fact that in the Piccolo arc, Shen Long and the Dragon Balls were also re-usable instantly, so there is precedent for it.


...Here's another plot hole related to the Dragon Balls being reused too soon. When they're used for the first time in the Pilaf arc, it's explained that it takes a year for the Dragon Balls to become active again. But only 8 months pass between the events at Pilaf's castle and the 21st Budoukai. Gokuu starts searching for them with the Radar immediately after, and I believe the Red Ribbon Army already has one ball at that point.

[Savage68]

That was the first plot hole brought up.

[TripleRach]

So it was. Somehow I missed that post and thought no one had mentioned it yet.

[Herms]

I'm preeeetty sure you die instantly in space without a suit or ship.

Well you're preeeetty wrong on that count:

Humans and animals exposed to vacuum will lose consciousness after a few seconds and die of hypoxia within minutes.

[dbgtFO]

And in the Japanese version Cell says that he can regenerate as long as the nucleus in his head in intact but earlier Goku blew his head off with an attack.

Just because his head was blown off doesn't mean his nucleus was...

All he needs to survive is the clump inside his head not the head itself.

He did in fact also lose his head, when he self destructed, so if the example with Goku is a plothole, then Cell's regeneration after self destructing also is.

[Drabaz]

And in the Japanese version Cell says that he can regenerate as long as the nucleus in his head in intact but earlier Goku blew his head off with an attack.

Are you sure that's what he said? I'm pretty sure Cell just points to his head, but in Japan, that's just how somebody points to themselves.

[Michsi]

The german version I own has the same statement!

And in the Japanese version Cell says that he can regenerate as long as the nucleus in his head in intact but earlier Goku blew his head off with an attack.

Just because his head was blown off doesn't mean his nucleus was...

All he needs to survive is the clump inside his head not the head itself.

He did in fact also lose his head, when he self destructed, so if the example with Goku is a plothole, then Cell's regeneration after self destructing also is.

It looked like he regenerated from his lower body. If it was his nucleus that was needed then logically he should've discarded the previouse body and grown a new one from that.

Also in that self destructive explosion, he got blown to bits but that doesn't mean a piece of him didn't survive. Goku literally desintegrated his upper body.

If you ask me this is a pretty legitamate plot hole. I remeber noticing this the first time I read it.

[Michsi]

The german version I own has the same statement!

And in the Japanese version Cell says that he can regenerate as long as the nucleus in his head in intact but earlier Goku blew his head off with an attack.

Just because his head was blown off doesn't mean his nucleus was...

All he needs to survive is the clump inside his head not the head itself.

He did in fact also lose his head, when he self destructed, so if the example with Goku is a plothole, then Cell's regeneration after self destructing also is.

It looked like he regenerated from his lower body. If it was his nucleus that was needed then logically he should've discarded the previouse body and grown a new one from that.

Also in that self destructive explosion, he got blown to bits but that doesn't mean a piece of him didn't survive. Goku literally desintegrated his upper body.

If you ask me this is a pretty legitamate plot hole. I remeber noticing this the first time I read it.

[Herms]

Are you sure that's what he said? I'm pretty sure Cell just points to his head, but in Japan, that's just how somebody points to themselves.

Yes, in the Japanese manga Cell explicitly refers to his nucleus as being inside his head.

[dbgtFO]

It looked like he regenerated from his lower body. If it was his nucleus that was needed then logically he should've discarded the previouse body and grown a new one from that.

His nucleus crawled back to his lower body, problem solved.
Or his nucleus automatically is drawn to the leftovers of his body, so it doesn't have to create a new one.

Also in that self destructive explosion, he got blown to bits but that doesn't mean a piece of him didn't survive. Goku literally desintegrated his upper body.

Cell's upper body got blown to bits, but that doesn't mean his nucleus didn't survive, which it did.