there's the reason that's given, and then there's the real reason. who knows, in this situation...Herms wrote:We know it's unintentional. Toriyama's said several times that he made the Super Saiyans' hair that way because it was easier than having to black all the hair in like before. Sure, maybe he's repeatedly lied and the real reason was because The Man told him to, but come on, you have to use Occam's Razor here.FreezaSama wrote:Maybe the Wizard of Oz told him to do it. Maybe somebody behind the scenes. Maybe he did it unintentionally. Maybe he was affected by western culture.
Why do Super Saiyans have blonde hair and bluish-green eyes?
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No, remember FreezaSama was very clear that that line from the original article did not matter. Stop using logic people, it's giving you an unfair advantage over FreezaSama.Adamant wrote:So... Toriyama, knowing that since he was Japanese, 20 years in the future a larger amount of black-skinned citizens of foreign country x would be likely to watch a cartoon adaption of his work than white-skinned citizen of the same country, deliberately inserted vague hints of nazi ideologies for the sole purpose to fuck with this specific group of future-men?"However, anime has particular significance in the Black community because so many African Americans are anime fans."
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But the article provides no evidence to back up that accusation.FreezaSama wrote:it ain't just about black-skinned people. it's about his own people, too. did you read the article? it mentions Japanese kids being affected.Adamant wrote:So... Toriyama, knowing that since he was Japanese, 20 years in the future a larger amount of black-skinned citizens of foreign country x would be likely to watch a cartoon adaption of his work than white-skinned citizen of the same country, deliberately inserted vague hints of nazi ideologies for the sole purpose to fuck with this specific group of future-men?"However, anime has particular significance in the Black community because so many African Americans are anime fans."
Even if this article was correct in its points, I just can't take it seriously when it shows no actual research or anything to validate its statements.
Honestly, I think whoever wrote this was looking way too deeply into something fairly innocent.
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What's with the triple posting?
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I didn't use the words "close minded sheep", but I would call anyone who acts like there ain't no such thing as a conspiracy a "close-minded sheep."Gaffer Tape wrote:Your posts on the subject seem to be a bit contradictory. On one hand, you say you just want people to keep an open mind and consider the possibility. But then on the other hand, you seem to be saying that what you're saying is definitively correct, and that those who aren't agreeing with you are close-minded sheep.
As for me, I believe that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and this is one of those times.
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He's not even capable of starting sentences with a capital letter. Why on Earth would you think he's capable of following proper forum etiquette?dbgtFO wrote:What's with the triple posting?
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Do you mean conspiracys in general or a specific Dragon Ball conspiracy?FreezaSama wrote:I didn't use the words "close minded sheep", but I would call anyone who acts like there ain't no such thing as a conspiracy a "close-minded sheep."Gaffer Tape wrote:Your posts on the subject seem to be a bit contradictory. On one hand, you say you just want people to keep an open mind and consider the possibility. But then on the other hand, you seem to be saying that what you're saying is definitively correct, and that those who aren't agreeing with you are close-minded sheep.
As for me, I believe that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and this is one of those times.
Oh that's too bad then.CODii wrote:He's not even capable of starting sentences with a capital letter. Why on Earth would you think he's capable of following proper forum etiquette?dbgtFO wrote:What's with the triple posting?
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FreezaSama, do whatever you want with your conspiracy theories about Toriyama being racist or whatever the hell this is about. But for the love of Dende, fix your grammar and spelling, as you've already been asked to do once by the forum's head honcho.
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You have to understand that Toriyama drew the series intending it to be for Japanese children. It's not like when Goku powered up into Super Saiyan he transformed from being Chinese or Korean and then suddenly gained a Japanese nationalist appearance which would have brought up all the horrible things done in the name of Imperial Japan. They don't have the same history as the 'western' world does, so Goku looking Aryan, Mr. Popo and Black being racist are things that don't even come up at all. If you want to blame someone, blame Funimation for marketing the series towards American school children.FreezaSama wrote:Uub came way after the first appearance of Goku's super saiyan transformation... way after any damage (intentional or unintentional) had been done on the minds of children.beast mode wrote:Herms wrote:
Uub presumably could become as powerful as Buu and he's as far as anyone except Piccolo gets from Aryan looking. Goku thinks he's more suited for protector of Earth than Vegeta or Gohan.
Goku's Super Saiyan 3 transformation looks similar to a Lion's mane. Might be some English/Animal supremacy being hidden in there subliminally!!!
you don't think stuff like this can affect people? read the autobiography of Malcolm X, where he writes about how he was taught to hate himself.
All i'm doing is trying to get other people's opinions... not accusing Akira Toriyama of anything.
...whining about the anime because it doesn't follow my "manga volumes agenda."
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conspiracy in general... like the conspiracy that there are dictators in the middle east (instead of democracy) in order to have stability in the region.dbgtFO wrote:Do you mean conspiracys in general or a specific Dragon Ball conspiracy?FreezaSama wrote:I didn't use the words "close minded sheep", but I would call anyone who acts like there ain't no such thing as a conspiracy a "close-minded sheep."Gaffer Tape wrote:Your posts on the subject seem to be a bit contradictory. On one hand, you say you just want people to keep an open mind and consider the possibility. But then on the other hand, you seem to be saying that what you're saying is definitively correct, and that those who aren't agreeing with you are close-minded sheep.
As for me, I believe that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and this is one of those times.Oh that's too bad then.CODii wrote:He's not even capable of starting sentences with a capital letter. Why on Earth would you think he's capable of following proper forum etiquette?dbgtFO wrote:What's with the triple posting?
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There ARE dictators in the Middle East.
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I beg your pardon, but I did not know that this was English class. I am very sorry, my good sir. I will write like this from now on.Kaboom wrote:FreezaSama, do whatever you want with your conspiracy theories about Toriyama being racist or whatever the hell this is about. But for the love of Dende, fix your grammar and spelling, as you've already been asked to do once by the forum's head honcho.
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Uh.FreezaSama wrote:like the conspiracy that there are dictators in the middle east (instead of democracy) in order to have stability in the region.
What?
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...whining about the anime because it doesn't follow my "manga volumes agenda."
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There are, but some people think it is just a coincidence. Some people do not want to believe that they were put there by the Freezas of the world.beast mode wrote:There ARE dictators in the Middle East.
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FreezaSama, I am already completely fed up, here.
You will abandon your nonsensical, conspiracy-theorist agenda-pushing immediately, and if English is your first language (which you have not confirmed for us), you will also immediately begin posting properly (as you agreed to prior to registration -- drop the sarcastic bullshit in response to moderators asking you to clean up your act).
A temporary ban will be put in place if you can not follow the rules that everyone else follows in a friendly and conversational way.
You will abandon your nonsensical, conspiracy-theorist agenda-pushing immediately, and if English is your first language (which you have not confirmed for us), you will also immediately begin posting properly (as you agreed to prior to registration -- drop the sarcastic bullshit in response to moderators asking you to clean up your act).
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Re: Why do Super Saiyans have blonde hair and bluish-green e
So now Toriyama is at the center of an international, subliminal Nazi conspiracy that has stretched on for over 25 years? Thank you so much FreezaSama for opening our eyes. If I had kept watching this evil show any longer, I may have ended up tattooing a swastika onto my forehead!FreezaSama wrote: I didn't use the words "close minded sheep", but I would call anyone who acts like there ain't no such thing as a conspiracy a "close-minded sheep."
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I am not the only one who was sarcastic. Check out Mr. "tin-foil hat" guy.VegettoEX wrote:FreezaSama, I am already completely fed up, here.
You will abandon your nonsensical, conspiracy-theorist agenda-pushing immediately, and if English is your first language (which you have not confirmed for us), you will also immediately begin posting properly (as you agreed to prior to registration -- drop the sarcastic bullshit in response to moderators asking you to clean up your act).
A temporary ban will be put in place if you can not follow the rules that everyone else follows in a friendly and conversational way.
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FreezaSama wrote:There are, but some people think it is just a coincidence. Some people do not want to believe that they were put there by the Freezas of the world!!!beast mode wrote:There ARE dictators in the Middle East.
...whining about the anime because it doesn't follow my "manga volumes agenda."
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When did I say that?CODii wrote:So now Toriyama is at the center of an international, subliminal Nazi conspiracy that has stretched on for over 25 years? Thank you so much FreezaSama for opening our eyes. If I had kept watching this evil show any longer, I may have ended up tattooing a swastika onto my forehead!FreezaSama wrote: I didn't use the words "close minded sheep", but I would call anyone who acts like there ain't no such thing as a conspiracy a "close-minded sheep."

