When did Kuririn lose his passion as a martial artist?

[Kingdom Heartless]

When Kuririn first shows up, he lives for martial arts... sure, he hints that it's partly to impress girls, but he was definitely passionate about training and getting stronger.

As the series progressed, his fighting became less about passion and more about survival.

At what point do you think he no longer enjoyed martial arts? What were the factors that led to his loss of interest... can it all be gauged by his hair?!

[dbgtFO]

At what point do you think he no longer enjoyed martial arts?

When #18 introduced him to the concept of SEX.

And probably also because of being so outclassed by the Saiyans and Piccolo, that his strength didn't really mattered anymore...

[Godo]

At what point do you think he no longer enjoyed martial arts? What were the factors that led to his loss of interest... can it all be gauged by his hair?!

After he got killed once, and defeated and almost killed again and again. The last enemy he phased was Freeza in his second form. After that he was useless. So I guess that he gradually lost interest in martial arts and focused on survival instead. When the biggest threat was over, he finally gave martial arts up. And or course 18 has to have something to do with it too.

[NeoKING]

Wasn't there a scene in the anime where he was training during the three years of preparation for the androids in which he was lamenting on the fact that there's no way he could catch up to Goku anymore? I think the foreshadowing goes even further than that, like in the Freeza saga where he said that he wanted to settle down not too long before Freeza killed him.

[Strongbad456]

I think it was a combination of peace after Cell and Goku's death that made Krillin give up training. There was no need to train after cell and plus he had no one to try and keep up with after Goku was gone(even if Krillin was far out-classed by Goku at that point).

[Turtle Marked Stone]

I don't think it had anything to do with his lack of skill. I think he just outgrew the hobby after living a content life with 18 and his kid. I've been that way with a lot of hobbies where I had just lost interest due to other more important things taking priority. I used to write every day for hours on end but then I started needing to take care of loved ones and actually attempt to make a living. It's just people growing. You see the same thing happen to Yamucha and even Goten and Trunks at the end of the series. Hobbies can take a back seat for a very long time. That's true especially for things like fighting after years and years and years of peace.

[TobyS]

In the Viz manga it never says the humans or Piccolo gave up training, only that Kuririn stopped FIGHTING.

To me this means he stopped entering tournys, sparring with others or whatever. Or simply grew his hair becuse "the fighting was over"

What do you think he did with all his free time? I bet he trained.

Even in Yo! Son Goku and his friends return! He and Yamcha are shown still wearing their gi's even under their normal clothes, people spread these rumours about the humans/namek just to make their saiyans seem stronger by contrast. Like how Goku fans say Gohan stopped training, even though he woulda learnt his lesson from quitting training the first time. (couldn't stop fat buu, put the would in danger). In the hopes that Goku could somehow close the Canyon sized gap between their powers before DB ended.

Turtle School 4 Life man:
http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/imag ... School.png

[Turtle Marked Stone]

Er...did 3 or 4 posts get deleted here by accident or did we do something wrong?

[dbgtFO]

Er...did 3 or 4 posts get deleted here by accident or did we do something wrong?

There were other posts besides the above 8?
I've got to admit, that I've been browsing this particular sub forum, repeatedly updating it, but I haven't seen 3-4 extra posts beyond the ones shown currently...

[Turtle Marked Stone]

Er...did 3 or 4 posts get deleted here by accident or did we do something wrong?

There were other posts besides the above 8?
I've got to admit, that I've been browsing this particular sub forum, repeatedly updating it, but I haven't seen 3-4 extra posts beyond the ones shown currently...

Oh geeze, sorry. We're having the exact same argument about why humans are so super cool and everyone else is a big dumb liar pants in 2 separate 1st page threads. My bad, false alarm. I'm an idiot. I guess I'll post the relevant information found by DbgtFO here too.

Daizenshuu 2 confirms he stopped training:

No longer training, his hair has grown out.

http://www.kanzentai.com/trans-daiz02.p ... ow_up#link

[dbgtFO]

Oh geeze, sorry. We're having the exact same argument about why humans are so super cool and everyone else is a big dumb liar pants in 2 separate 1st page threads. My bad, false alarm. I'm an idiot.

No need to be sorry about it. It was a minor goof

[TobyS]

Sorry for the confusion made the same point here because it was relavent.

I seem to have been disproved over in the other thread.

Kuririn took a between a 3-4 year break from training, because he had a young family, no more enemies around, his martial arts schoolmate died, and he would not likely be a factor in any fight Teen Gohan could not win (he prolly didn't expect Gohan to stop training too.)

[TobyS]

why humans are so super cool and everyone else is a big dumb liar pants

Don't straw man, that's not what I said, don't be childish, I thought we were having an interesting discussion.

[Goten Forever]

why humans are so super cool and everyone else is a big dumb liar pants

Don't straw man, that's not what I said, don't be childish, I thought we were having an interesting discussion.

xD but you're not gonna quit until you win, are you?
I saw the other thread and replied to it and in both you are defending the humans a little too far, in the same way I defend Goten.

[Turtle Marked Stone]

why humans are so super cool and everyone else is a big dumb liar pants

Don't straw man, that's not what I said, don't be childish, I thought we were having an interesting discussion.

I was playing around. It's not like I was trying to actively offend you. I don't even really consider this an argument or anything truthfully.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think Kuririn lost his passion as a martial artist once he settled down with a family, like he always wanted. He's always wanted to have a girlfriend, and now that he has a wife, along with a kid, he's content. Plus, the world was at peace and I think he just felt completely outclassed by the others that he just didn't bother anymore.

I think this was nice because it showed how much the series had progressed, from when they were all hardened martial artists, to now, when the world was at peace and the next generation of martial artists had emerged (although they ended up losing their passion as a martial artist too once they became teenagers and discovered girls).

[painfuldeath]

I think Kuririn just got fed up with fighting when he got blown up by Frieza. The final straw though would have to be as he watched helplessly as Gohan struggled to fight Cell's Kamehameha. By then he gave up on fighting and settled for a family as he had always wished.

[SylentEcho]

He and Yamcha together lost interest right after the Freeza arc, Kurririn because he got killed just before that and didn't have any way to reach Goku's level of power.

Yamcha quit after seeing how strong Trunks and Freeza were on earth. He was training, but when he sensed Freeza's enormous ki, he said, "I've been wished back just to die again."

It's not that the two of them stopped training from time to time because they were still pretty fit, it's just that they knew they couldn't try and fight villains any more.

[TheGreatness25]

I think Kuririn lost his passion for martial arts way before the Freeza fight. In Dragon Ball, he was quick to fight, but even when Z first starts, he doesn't want to fight anyone right off the bat (Raditz, etc.). Just because he HAS to fight, doesn't mean he has a passion for it. I think he lost his passion for the same reason anyone would lose passion for something, the fact that there were SO many people who surpassed him. He HAD to train for the Saiyans and HAD to fight on Namek. That doesn't mean that he ever wanted to. So I say he lost his passion right when Dragon Ball ends and Z begins.

He really lost his passion when Akira Toriyama lost his interest in making Kuririn a center stage character lol

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think Kuririn lost his passion for martial arts way before the Freeza fight. In Dragon Ball, he was quick to fight, but even when Z first starts, he doesn't want to fight anyone right off the bat (Raditz, etc.). Just because he HAS to fight, doesn't mean he has a passion for it. I think he lost his passion for the same reason anyone would lose passion for something, the fact that there were SO many people who surpassed him. He HAD to train for the Saiyans and HAD to fight on Namek. That doesn't mean that he ever wanted to. So I say he lost his passion right when Dragon Ball ends and Z begins.

He really lost his passion when Akira Toriyama lost his interest in making Kuririn a center stage character lol

I disagree. He doesn't want to fight Raditz because he just saw the aforementioned planet-destroying space invader take out Goku, who's the most powerful person he knows, in one hit, not to mention that he knows he can't get revived with the DBs because he's only been killed once before. He didn't lose his passion for fighting, he just didn't want to get killed. By that point in the series, he wasn't so much outclassed by the rest of them yet. There was still sometime yet until Vegeta, Super Saiyan, Gohan at the Cell Games.

I don't think there's anything that ever implies that Kuririn lost his passion as a martial artist before the Boo arc.