If Gohan and Super Perfect Cell had actually fought.

[Kingdom Heartless]

Let's say that Gohan didn't get injured and actually had his chance to fight Cell again, without the intent of making it slow.

Do you think it is likely he could have won?

Personally, I think it's hard to say... but I think the favour slightly belongs to Gohan. Considering how much power he was able to put up after supposedly losing about "half his ki."

Then again, Cell's fighting abilities left Gohan's for dead. Power may not have been the deciding fact in the match.

Still, I guess I'd like to believe that Gohan could have beaten him.

[Savage68]

I'm pretty sure that Gohan's injury made a world of difference. His full power erased Cell and overpowered his regeneration. He had to have been stronger.

[JulieYBM]

I think we would have seen a fight just as intense and long as Gokû's with Cell, only with the battle progressively turning back to Gohan's side. While Cell did have the techniques of the other fighters, Gohan had both witnessed his fighting style and fought him previously himself. With nearly even power, speed, and stamina, as well as an even understanding of his foe, I think in the end Gohan would have prevailed with his 'full power' that killed Cell.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Gohan and Cell were ROUGHLY equal at the beginning of their match, and then both attained SS2, or at least something like it in Cell's case. Had he not been injured, Gohan would have wiped the floor with his perfect ass because Gohan wasn't just a Super Saiyan 2, he was also "rage haxed".

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Aside from Cell putting up a better effort than he did when he was being bullied by Gohan, I still see him losing here. I know he believes he's powered-up enough to be on Gohan's level, but I doubt it. And yeah, being erased by Gohan's full-power says a lot.

I would've liked to have seen them fight.

[Rocketman]

Gohan only has one attack - CHAERG HEADFIRST. If Cell is anywhere close to equal, Gohan is fucked because he is a shitty fighter who relies on strength alone.

[Super Vegito]

Gohan only has one attack - CHAERG HEADFIRST. If Cell is anywhere close to equal, Gohan is fucked because he is a shitty fighter who relies on strength alone.

This.

Once you level out the power field, the only thing left is fighting skill and techniques. Cell obviously has the upperhand in that area; not to mention his regeneration. Going to be a tough one for Gohan unless he can get another rage boost.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Gohan only has one attack - CHAERG HEADFIRST. If Cell is anywhere close to equal, Gohan is fucked because he is a shitty fighter who relies on strength alone.

I thought you were the person who said that skill and technique doesn't matter in battle if the opponent's too powerful (which you then referred to Kame-sennin's statement at the 21st TB).

And just to counter your argument, Gohan was trained by Goku and Piccolo, two of the most skilled warriors in the universe.

[TobyS]

Gohan only has one attack - CHAERG HEADFIRST. If Cell is anywhere close to equal, Gohan is fucked because he is a shitty fighter who relies on strength alone.

I thought you were the person who said that skill and technique doesn't matter in battle if the opponent's too powerful (which you then referred to Kame-sennin's statement at the 21st TB).

And just to counter your argument, Gohan was trained by Goku and Piccolo, two of the most skilled warriors in the universe.

This, just because he was previously able to beat Cell up w/o having to showcase any fancy moves does not mean he lacked the capacity.

The Gohan hate, like human hate, just reads as a roundabout way of wanking Goku/Vegeta by extension/contrast.

And the claim that he was ooc is silly, he was a emotionally immature 4/5 year old when he killed henchmen on namek. Becoming a pacifist after like 7 more years of life/education is not impossible, I was pro death penalty as a child and am now largely a pacifist since my teenage years.

If he can beat him with one attack with one arm after being loosing a lot of chi and being pressed down by Cells attack which was winning up untill this point then from fresh he would have definetly still messed Cell up just slightly less easily then before.

[Godo]

Gohan would have crushed Cell and his newfound powers into smithereens, before Cell could even start feel happy about them. It's plainly obvious that Gohan, uninjured, was much stronger than Cell. This was compensated with giving Gohan an injury.

And yeah, Gohan could fight as well as say, Vegeta could.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think that Gohan would fight a roughly even battle with Cell, but the battle would progressively turn in Gohan's favour, and he'd eventually overpower Cell once he tapped into his full power. After all, he was able to cancel out Cell's regeneration and destroy him, even injured with one arm.

[CatouttaHell]

The Gohan hate, like human hate, just reads as a roundabout way of wanking Goku/Vegeta by extension/contrast.

...How did you come to the conclusion that saying that SPC would beat Gohan is Goku/Vegeta wanking?

[Rocketman]

And just to counter your argument, Gohan was trained by Goku and Piccolo, two of the most skilled warriors in the universe.

Has Gohan ever, at any time in the entire series, used strategy? Has he ever used any kind of tactic except "attack headfirst"?

[Savage68]

Has Perfect Cell?

[goku the krump dancer]

Has Gohan ever, at any time in the entire series, used strategy? Has he ever used any kind of tactic except "attack headfirst"?

Wow! Your right. Now that I think about about heres a list of all of Gohan's battles in the manga and his many strategies used against each foe:

1. Vs Nappa- Gohan was to chicken to fight until Piccolo died and he lashed out and attacked head on.

2. Vs Vegeta- he was too weak to do anything but ended up overpowering him once he became an Oozaru.

3. Vs Freeza's henchmen- He simply overpowered him.

4. Vs Dodoria- He lashed out again after witnessing the brutality of Freeza and his men thus attacking Dodoria head on even though it also was a surprise attack aswell.

5. Vs Gurd- Attacking head on almost got him killed.

6. Vs ReCoome- was completely overpowered by the brute and yet still he attacked head on.

7. Vs Ginyu in Goku's body- He and Krillin managed to overpower him.

8. Vs Freeza- Lashed out yet again but twice in a row against Freeza and attacked head on both times.

9. Vs Cell- He was overpowered at first but then managed to overpower Cell later on.

10. Vs Bank Robbers- He easily overpowered them.

11. Vs Dabra- He tried to be strategic but his lack of training only resulted in him attacking head on again.

12. Vs Fat Boo- Was over powered and he also attacked head on which put him at death's door.

13. Vs Super Boo- Overpowered the pink monster but then was quickly over powered an hour later. He did however try to not only keep away from GotenksBoo but also mask his power from him witch ended in failure for the poor half breed.

So yeah Rocketman is right, if its not attacking head on Gohan's fighting strategies are poorly surrounded by either lashing out or just being strong enough to plain ol' stomp his enemy.

[SuperForteX]

I think the only reason people dwell so much on "Super Perfect Cell" supposedly being "so powerful", is the damage he caused to Gohan's arm. They're quick to point out that one "quick, uncharged ki blast" broke Gohan's arm, but then turn right around and ignore the fact that Gohan overwhelmed Cell's Kamehameha. I mean, Gohan won that battle, and he did it with one hand "tied behind his back."

I know real world analogies don't hold over that well in Dragon Ball discussion... but have any of you ever broken a bone like that before? It hurts. A lot. The pain is a constant, rending thing, that prevents you from feeling any comfort. It sucks.

Gohan won a Kamehameha duel with Cell in that condition, while his arm is dripping blood and hanging limply at his side. He couldn't even raise his arm up, so we know he probably suffered a major fracture at least.

Sure maybe he was underestimating himself when he said "I lost half my power", but he probably did lose at least some.

I see no case at all for Cell being close to Gohan in power. I don't care if he broke Gohan's arm with a ki blast or not. You can either accept that Gohan's guard was down, or you can reject the idea--in the end it doesn't change the fact that Gohan overwhelmed Cell's Kamehameha and disintigrated Cell's body to the point where he couldn't regenerate anymore.

Gohan was simply that much stronger than Cell. Super Perfect Cell is overrated. He got stronger than Gohan expected... but, clearly, Gohan didn't expect him to get that strong at all to begin with.

[hleV]

I believe fighters could handle pain well at that time.

Gohan won with a disabled arm, so Gohan would have won with it as well. Goku would've still shown up if Gohan had trouble.

They're just talking about a "What If" where Gohan and Cell are equal in power and Gohan can't use his rage to boost his power even more. It should be pretty obvious that Cell is a better fighter and he also has regeneration, so...

[Fox666]

Sure maybe he was underestimating himself when he said "I lost half my power", but he probably did lose at least some.

I see no case at all for Cell being close to Gohan in power. I don't care if he broke Gohan's arm with a ki blast or not. You can either accept that Gohan's guard was down, or you can reject the idea--in the end it doesn't change the fact that Gohan overwhelmed Cell's Kamehameha and disintigrated Cell's body to the point where he couldn't regenerate anymore.

Gohan was simply that much stronger than Cell. Super Perfect Cell is overrated. He got stronger than Gohan expected... but, clearly, Gohan didn't expect him to get that strong at all to begin with.

Cell lost because he got distracted by Vegeta, you can't "measure" that

As far I can tell, the manga is not clear about how Cell is compared to Gohan in real terms of power. But in my oppinion it was suggested that there is somewhat an equality beetween them

and Gohan can't use his rage to boost his power even more.

I am not sure if Gohan had any "rage boost" here, except for turning in a Super Saiyan 2. I suppose a lot of people find it hard to suit the SEG multiplier in the battle with Cell or so

It should be pretty obvious that Cell is a better fighter and he also has regeneration, so...

Cell is somewhat an incompetent fighter in the same sense as Vegeta, since he relies too much in power and get flabbergasted whenever his power is surpassed

[Rocketman]

Cell is somewhat an incompetent fighter in the same sense as Vegeta, since he relies too much in power and get flabbergasted whenever his power is surpassed

And at his worst, Vegeta is a better fighter than Gohan ever was. Compare them fighting Fat Buu.

[Michsi]

And at his worst, Vegeta is a better fighter than Gohan ever was. Compare them fighting Fat Buu.

How was he at his worst with the Babidi upgrade and having just eaten a senzu? At that time Piccolo states he was way stronger than Gohan when he fought Cell and ge still couldn't defeat Buu.