Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

[Hellspawn28]

I do know that this would be an entertaining fight, though.

I think it would a very enteratining battle, I think it might go either way. Tao is a lot faster but Deadpool was able to regen from his own stomach acid before. If Tao can find alway to knock him out then he might pull off of a win.

[Kirby456]

A. The Hulk, like i said before I'm a dragon Ball Z fan but the Hulk will crush Piccolo.
B. Popeye with spinach and cartoon physics, he'll defeat Krillin.
C. Superman he destroyed a universe with just one sneeze, i perfer Goku but even at Super Saiyan 4 Goku is not mach for Silver age superman, who played baseball with planets.

also what about these three fights, i believe Odin can destroy galaxy's and universes with his hammer.

D. Ed (Ed Edd n Eddy) vs Final Form Frieza (note Ed has incredible strength, for those of you who don't wach Ed Edd n Eddy, Ed can lift buildings and destroyed the moon several times, he also cracked the sky, and lifted the earth)
E. Courage the Cowardly Dog vs King Cold (for those of you who don't know, Courage destroyed the sun, and has incredible endurance and physical strength)
F. Silver Surfer vs Vegito Super Saiyan 3 (this should be close both can destroy planets with out even trying)

[SonGokuh]

I'm sorry but Superman has got the entire Dragon Ball universe licked in terms of strength, speed and durability. I HATE to admit it, but Goku has the best chance of beating the initial Post-crisis Superman or Superman about 10 years or so after he debuted.

[Kirby456]

I'm sorry but Superman has got the entire Dragon Ball universe licked in terms of strength, speed and durability. I HATE to admit it, but Goku has the best chance of beating the initial Post-crisis Superman or Superman about 10 years or so after he debuted.

i agree with you man, i like Goku more then Superman, but Superman is just much stronger then Goku.

[Ex-SOLDIER]

The more I think about Piccolo vs Hulk, the more interesting it seems to become. On the one hand, Hulk has been shown to withstand some incredible damage and displayed strength on an insane scale, but at the same time so has Piccolo. However, what if instead of just comparing speed and strength and general durability, we look at it from different angles. I've always been a subscriber to the theory that everyone in Dragon Ball, though they may share the same power, are not necessarily complete equals in all areas. Taking this theory, Piccolo may be exceptionally strong and fast, while the Hulk may posses great strength, but much higher durability than Piccolo. Though Piccolo has tanked some incredibly strong techniques, so has the Hulk. I suppose the basis of my thought is that while it is entirely possible to compare characters from their own individual universes against each other, it can be just as interesting if you sort of "level the playing field" so to speak. (Though this may not be the thread for it....but I'd like to present my theory all the same)

Say for example, an event occured that allowed these matches to be possible, lets say, a merging of the Marvel universe with the Dragon Ball universe. Both universes bring many of their unique features to the table, but ultimately the end result is a NEW universe, wherein things such as Ki manipulation are completely possible, but so are things like gamma-radiation related mutations. Here, things can really start getting interesting, because we don't necessarily have to leave it at "He can destroy entire planets on a whim, therefore he wins".

In the case of Piccolo vs the Hulk, we have Piccolo, who's strength, speed, durability and energy projection are all based in his mastery of, and intense training in, the usage of Ki; and the Hulk, granted exceptional strength and durability, as well as a hyper-advanced healing factor by a gamma-radation related accident. Basic knowledge, I know. But what if both events resulted in a similar "kind" of strength, that is to say, that the Hulk's mutation actually caused his body to kind of genetically adapt to the use of Ki and unconciously incorporate it into his strength, durability and healing? This would be particularly useful in the battle, as it would help to explain how the Hulk's body could resist being fried be even the smallest energy attack, and at the same time help Piccolo in being able to "sense" Hulk. (Because honestly, that would be a big factor, in these DB vs. Non-DB conflicts, would the DB characters be unable to sense their opponents? Because they may not necessarily produce any Ki)

I apologise if this isn't really appropriate for this thread, but seeing as how this thread raised the idea of DB characters vs Non-DB characters, I thought that this could be an interesting way to make some of these conflicts a little more viable.....

[Kingdom Heartless]

I apologise if this isn't really appropriate for this thread, but seeing as how this thread raised the idea of DB characters vs Non-DB characters, I thought that this could be an interesting way to make some of these conflicts a little more viable.....

It seems incredibly appropriate to me.

[SegaSaturnGamer]

I hear SM has character that can fight and move at FTL speed. From what I have known, SM is a stronger series then Dragon Ball.

When does this happen? I spent years waiting for anything close to resembling a decent-ish fight to occur. Rarely saw any fisticuffs if Mars or Jupiter weren't involved, and that was fairly rare. Most fights seemed kinda like small-scale beam spams to wipe out the baddies a la the the end of an episode of a Super Sentai series. Occasionally Tuxedo Mask would throw a rose. I remember the big showdown with Rubeus, and how that didn't really impress me. When does the series kick into FTL combat and being stronger than Dragon Ball on the whole?

Seems to me you only watched the Sailor Moon anime

Go read the Sailor Moon Manga.They are so damn powerful that they can bust planets!In fact Tuxedo Mask even has planet busting attacks and psychic abilities!Sailor Moon Manga is among the top 10 most powerful anime/manga universes and Sailor Moon alone can solo the Dragon Ball Z universe(she can in fact destroy an entire galaxy in the manga!).Even with GT added, Sailor Moon solos still.Even the weakest of Sailor Soldiers(who are at least city busting ability) could easily slaughter most of DBZ characters from Saiyan Saga and Frieza Saga including the Nappa and Saiyan Saga Vegeta and the Ginyu squad. Many of the stronger Sailor Soldiers could be on par with Frieza or easily kill him in less than a minute(Tuxedo Mask would probably even solo Mecha Frieza and his father and possibly the Artificial humans in the Manga).

The anime Sailor Moon powers is a mockery of how powerful Sailor Moon and her universe is in the Manga.

[SegaSaturnGamer]

Ginyu Force

Vs.


Sailor Moon

What do you guys think of this matchup?

Sailor Moon solos the Ginyu force.

[SegaSaturnGamer]

Anyways it's part of my fandom to believe that most of the characters(Saiyans and Piccolo at least) are without a doubt faster than light both in combat speed and travel speed by the Buu arc. There is no way that their combat speed didn't go up by more than twice after all that training in previous arcs after already surpassing Popo, who is faster than lightning(up to ½ the speed of light).

DBZ and even DBGT characters are nowhere close to lightning speed(which is 1/10 of ligth speed), let alone FTL speed.End of DBZ is at most massively hypersonic,no more than that. Saint Seiya, Sailor moon, and many other characters are such massively FTL(both in travel speed and combat reflexes/speed) that they make SSJ4 Gogeta and the Z Fighters seem like slow snails.

[Kid Buu]

Yeah, I remember reading that in the SM manga Usagi can move at light speed and is a galaxy-buster. Although I have heard some DB fanboys counter back by saying Goku is more skilled and durable, but whatever.

I tried to read the SM manga but did not like it, the artwork irked me.

I propose a "BEST OUT OF 3"

Manga Version: Goku Vs. Sailor Moon
Anime Version: Goku Vs. Sailor Moon
Equal Power Levels Version: Goku Vs. Sailor Moon

What do you think?

[Adamant]

Manga Version: Goku Vs. Sailor Moon
Anime Version: Goku Vs. Sailor Moon
Equal Power Levels Version: Goku Vs. Sailor Moon

What do you think?

Even in the anime, Sailor Moon's power is pretty much infinite. It's the other Sailor soldiers who got nerfed considerably.

[Kid Buu]

Live action Sailor Moon (Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon) beats Live Action Goku (Dragonball Evolution) as well.

[Hellspawn28]

F. Silver Surfer vs Vegito Super Saiyan 3 (this should be close both can destroy planets with out even tryi

I think Silver Surfer after his power up in Annihilation would probably win. His powers and skills are much greater then Goku's since he could channel out Goku's ki or turn him into sand. Silver Surfer is strong enough to fight inside a black hole before without injury or disorientation, and I doubt Goku can survived inside black holes or tank super novas without any damage.

[KakaR0T]

The Red Ribbon Army vs. Team Rocket

[Wobbuffet]

The Red Ribbon Army vs. Team Rocket

Buyon would own Team Rocket with his (its) electrical attacks.
Thinking of it, everybody would own Team Rocket. Except if you're not talking about only Jessie, James and Meowth.

[KakaR0T]

The Red Ribbon Army vs. Team Rocket

Buyon would own Team Rocket with his (its) electrical attacks.
Thinking of it, everybody would own Team Rocket. Except if you're not talking about only Jessie, James and Meowth.

I mean ALL of Team Rocket including Giovanni and all of their gadgets and pokémon as well.

[rereboy]

I hate franchises who have their level of power mostly stated instead of just showing it...

"This character can punch at the speed of light and so on, bla, bla... He could destroy a galaxy in one attack, bla, bla.". Things that would pretty much outclass the Dragon Ball universe.

And then, that and other characters from that universe fight and the effects and consequences of the fight (the power of their attacks, the destruction they cause) are only comparable to pre-Freeza at best, probably below saiyan arc Vegeta.

I tend to consider those kind of series inferior to Dragon Ball simply because we really don't know exactly how fast people from Dragon Ball are and other stuff, but we do see what they can do. Even if some character in Dragon Ball is only stated to be capable of doing something, we actually believe it given what we already saw others do in the series.

To me that beats series which state amazing stuff, but that don't make you believe that those characters could actually do it given what we get to see in their series and what we see in Dragon Ball.

If that makes any sense to you guys...

[Hellspawn28]

The Red Ribbon Army vs. Team Rocket

Buyon would own Team Rocket with his (its) electrical attacks.
Thinking of it, everybody would own Team Rocket. Except if you're not talking about only Jessie, James and Meowth.

I mean ALL of Team Rocket including Giovanni and all of their gadgets and pokémon as well.

If so then Team Rocket stomps since Mewtwo would solo the RR army easy. I remember Mewtwo able to make storms across the Planet, he could give Saiyan Arc Vegeta a good fight.

[Casual Matt]

The more I think about Piccolo vs Hulk, the more interesting it seems to become. On the one hand, Hulk has been shown to withstand some incredible damage and displayed strength on an insane scale, but at the same time so has Piccolo. However, what if instead of just comparing speed and strength and general durability, we look at it from different angles. I've always been a subscriber to the theory that everyone in Dragon Ball, though they may share the same power, are not necessarily complete equals in all areas. Taking this theory, Piccolo may be exceptionally strong and fast, while the Hulk may posses great strength, but much higher durability than Piccolo. Though Piccolo has tanked some incredibly strong techniques, so has the Hulk. I suppose the basis of my thought is that while it is entirely possible to compare characters from their own individual universes against each other, it can be just as interesting if you sort of "level the playing field" so to speak. (Though this may not be the thread for it....but I'd like to present my theory all the same)

Say for example, an event occured that allowed these matches to be possible, lets say, a merging of the Marvel universe with the Dragon Ball universe. Both universes bring many of their unique features to the table, but ultimately the end result is a NEW universe, wherein things such as Ki manipulation are completely possible, but so are things like gamma-radiation related mutations. Here, things can really start getting interesting, because we don't necessarily have to leave it at "He can destroy entire planets on a whim, therefore he wins".

In the case of Piccolo vs the Hulk, we have Piccolo, who's strength, speed, durability and energy projection are all based in his mastery of, and intense training in, the usage of Ki; and the Hulk, granted exceptional strength and durability, as well as a hyper-advanced healing factor by a gamma-radation related accident. Basic knowledge, I know. But what if both events resulted in a similar "kind" of strength, that is to say, that the Hulk's mutation actually caused his body to kind of genetically adapt to the use of Ki and unconciously incorporate it into his strength, durability and healing? This would be particularly useful in the battle, as it would help to explain how the Hulk's body could resist being fried be even the smallest energy attack, and at the same time help Piccolo in being able to "sense" Hulk. (Because honestly, that would be a big factor, in these DB vs. Non-DB conflicts, would the DB characters be unable to sense their opponents? Because they may not necessarily produce any Ki)

I apologise if this isn't really appropriate for this thread, but seeing as how this thread raised the idea of DB characters vs Non-DB characters, I thought that this could be an interesting way to make some of these conflicts a little more viable.....

The thing with the Hulk is that his Bruce Banner personality is a limiting factor. They're basically two seperate minds, but when he's the Hulk, Banner is inside his mind. When the Hulk's on a rampage, it's Banner who keeps him from killing everybody around him.

However in cases such as "World War Hulk", Banner and Hulk actually fought as one. Banner allowed Hulk the full use of his strength because he believed in what Hulk was doing. The result was something that couldn't be stopped.

There's also the fact that Hulk's strength increases with rage, with seemingly no limit. Referencing again World War Hulk, at the end of that he got so angry that his very footsteps threatened to sink the entire eastern seaboard into the Atlantic.

[Hellspawn28]

Who is the strongest Dragon Ball character that Shao Khan could beat?