Dragonball Vs. Non Dragonball

[Taku128]

Who is the strongest Dragon Ball character that Shao Khan could beat?

Well Sub-Zero beat Superman in Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe, so Shao Kahn could probably beat any of the characters in DBZ. I could probably draw an exact line based on the MK9 story mode that paired with Sub-Zero being able to beat Superman would show that Shao Kahn could beat anyone in DBZ, but that'd require me to spoil quite a bit of MK9's story mode.

[rereboy]

Who is the strongest Dragon Ball character that Shao Khan could beat?

Well Sub-Zero beat Superman in Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe, so Shao Kahn could probably beat any of the characters in DBZ. I could probably draw an exact line based on the MK9 story mode that paired with Sub-Zero being able to beat Superman would show that Shao Kahn could beat anyone in DBZ, but that'd require me to spoil quite a bit of MK9's story mode.

Superman in the MK story is a version of Superman that could be easily defeated by fighters from the Dragon Ball universe. Only some versions of superman are actually stronger than the DB universe without a doubt.

Superman's power is not consistent and so it varies greatly depending on which version we are talking about.

I've seen Superman struggling to be faster than a missile and also being faster than light. I've seen him being nearly killed by a powerful atom bomb and also being able to tank blows that would destroy planets.

Superman is as strong as the current author wants him to be.

So, your logic is flawed.

[SSJmole]

Superman in the MK story is a version of Superman that could be easily defeated by fighters from the Dragon Ball universe. Only some versions of superman are actually stronger than the DB universe without a doubt.

To fair it's not so much the version. Superman has 2 weaknesses. 1) Kryptonite 2) Magic. In DC vs MK he was effected by magic. So non-magic effected he'd be the same Superman as usual pretty much.

Though if a cross-over happened and he's weak to magic. I'd like to see "Majin Kal-El" He'd have to be a threat right?

[Bussani]

To fair it's not so much the version. Superman has 2 weaknesses. 1) Kryptonite 2) Magic. In DC vs MK he was effected by magic. So non-magic effected he'd be the same Superman as usual pretty much.

Technically, it's not that Superman's "weak" against magic; it just affects him as well as it affects normal people, because...how is invulnerability going to protect you from being magically turned into a bunny? Magic's funny like that. But yeah, I think "magic made him vulnerable for the purpose of the game" is the explanation Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe went with.

[Savage68]

Why does everyone always to neglect to mention red solar radiation? He's not "weak" against magic (seriously, where did that misconception even come from?), and Kryptonite hardly even affects him anymore. More on the magic side of things, it depends on what sort of magic we're talking about. A sword magically enchanted to be super duper powerful will still have to deal with his natural durability as any other weapon does, but a sword magically enchanted to "cut through anything" will not.

[Hellspawn28]

Who is the strongest Dragon Ball character that Shao Khan could beat?

Well Sub-Zero beat Superman in Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.

MKvsDC is not canon to neither DC or Mortal Kombat. Everyone in the game where water down to the universes being fused together. Shao Khan is pretty strong since he created a portal in MK3 that was able to soul suck the life on Earth, and did became the ultimate winner of the Battle of Armageddon. I don't think he has the speed or durability to stand up against most later DBZ characters.

I could see him making up to Nappa maybe.

[Taku128]

Who is the strongest Dragon Ball character that Shao Khan could beat?

Well Sub-Zero beat Superman in Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.

MKvsDC is not canon to neither DC or Mortal Kombat. Everyone in the game where water down to the universes being fused together. Shao Khan is pretty strong since he created a portal in MK3 that was able to soul suck the life on Earth, and did became the ultimate winner of the Battle of Armageddon. I don't think he has the speed or durability to stand up against most later DBZ characters.

I could see him making up to Nappa maybe.

Whatever, all he has to do is connect with one hammer toss and then he can chain-gank anyone to death.

[Bee]

Kid Goku (Beginning of DB) vs. Ponyo

Mario vs. Mercenary Tao

Ness vs. General Blue

Sonic vs. Devilman

Emboar, Serperior, and Samurott vs. King Piccolo

Hyper Sonic vs. 2nd Form Frieza

Raditz vs. Mewtwo

Robin (Teen Titans) vs. Master Shen

Raven vs. Piccolo Jr. (Tenkaichi Budokai)

Cyborg vs. Teen Goku (Tenkaichi Budokai)

Starfire vs. Yajirobe (End of Z)

Beast Boy vs. Kid Gohan (6 months of Piccolo's Training)

Perfect Chaos vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)

[Bussani]

Kid Goku (Beginning of DB) vs. Ponyo

Ponyo's a fish, so Goku would just eat her.

[laserkid]

Kid Goku (Beginning of DB) vs. Ponyo
Raditz vs. Mewtwo

I'm pretty sure all Mewtwo has to do there is get inside Raditz's head and its all over. But when it comes to actual physical prowess Raditz would stomp him. Unless we're dealing with a tournament situation or preplanned combat, it all depends on who strikes first and how they do so.

[Pantalones]

I'm pretty sure all Mewtwo has to do there is get inside Raditz's head and its all over. But when it comes to actual physical prowess Raditz would stomp him.

This is a very common misconception about Mewtwo (and Psychic Pokémon in general.) Time to clear it up!

Mewtwo's psychic powers (like most Psychic-type Pokémon) are not the "mind rape" variety of psychic powers. The entire idea that Mewtwo is capable of this sort of thing comes entirely from the Pokémon anime, and even there the best he can do is brainwash one of the random nurses, so... not so impressive really.

Psychic powers in Pokémon, aside from a few specific moves like Hypnosis and Dream Eater, are almost always the "move things around and shoot energy blasts" type. In other words, telekinesis/psychokinesis type abilities (the attack Psychic is even called "Psychokinesis" in Japanese, it's just that that was too long for the space given in the English versions.)

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Mewtwo's naturally-learned attacks as of generation 4
(because I don't have a gen-5 Pokédex handy)
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 1 : Confusion
 1 : Disable
 8 : Barrier
15 : Swift
22 : Future Sight
29 : Psych Up
36 : Miracle Eye
43 : Mist
50 : Psycho Cut
57 : Amnesia
64 : Power Swap
64 : Guard Swap
71 : Psychic
79 : Me First
86 : Recover
93 : Safeguard
100: Aura Sphere

Of all these, the only true "mentally attacking" one is Disable (which isn't even Psychic-type, for some odd reason.) And Disable is unlikely to work well on Raditz, since he really doesn't really have any specific moves that could be disabled--and even if you could, say, disable "Punch," Raditz being unable to punch is still able to fight... since he can kick, headbutt, tail-slap, probably fire mouth blasts (Nappa can, anyway, and all the Oozaru Saiyans do it), and so on. And considering how well Chiaotzu's abilities worked on Nappa, it's possible that it would just fail to have any effect at all due to the difference in power.

All of Mewtwo's other attacks are either defensive/healing moves, or direct attacks of various types--energy blast-ish ones like Swift and Aura Sphere, telekinesis/psychokinesis type attacks like Confusion (which confuses you because you're being thrown around telekinetically and get disoriented; it's not an "attack the mind" type thing at all), Future Sight (just a telekinesis-based attack that happens later rather than at the time it's used), and Psychic, and even one physical attack (Psycho Cut, which is basically a claw slash charged with psychic energy.)
Considering that Raditz is probably stronger than the Piccolo who could blow up the moon with nothing more than a basic blast later during Gohan's training, and no Pokémon is anywhere near strong enough to blow up the moon with so little effort, blasting away with direct attacks would probably be pretty much useless in this fight.

The defensive moves like Barrier, Amnesia, and Recover might help Mewtwo survive a few more seconds, or at least get Raditz to treat him as a more significant threat than a power-level-5 farmer and put a bit more effort into killing him in one hit. Safeguard and Mist would be useless, as Raditz is all about direct attacks and doesn't really do any of the tricky stuff.

Unlikely that Psych Up would do anything, as Raditz doesn't really use any power-up techniques (I don't think "stop fighting half-assed and use full strength if the scouter says my opponent's power level is high enough in the multiple-hundreds" counts.) Power Swap and Guard Swap would be equally useless, since those swap the effects of power-up techniques and, again, Raditz's "actually fight with full power" probably doesn't count as one.

Miracle Eye might be useful if fighting someone who relies on Solar Flare type moves or afterimages, but Raditz doesn't do much of either (aside from just being so absurdly fast that even Goku and Piccolo had trouble keeping up), so it'd be useless.

Me First would never become a factor, Raditz is too fast. If Mewtwo somehow miraculously managed to pull it off, though, this might be the only way he'd be able to hurt Raditz--by throwing his own attacks back at him. But I think Me First actually just copies the attack rather than literally throwing it back, so it would be going off of Mewtwo's power rather than Raditz's, so... yeah, he's still screwed.

Basically, Mewtwo would be just as screwed against someone of Raditz's level as... well, any other Pokémon. Unlike most other Pokémon, he might actually fight for a few seconds and end up with just a big hole blown in him instead of being completely disintegrated as soon as the fight started... but that'd be about it.

Emboar, Serperior, and Samurott vs. King Piccolo

Another thing about Pokémon that people should know: even the strongest of non-legendary Pokémon are within the range of power levels that relatively normal human martial artists are capable of (think of guys like Mr. Satan or those big guys that always get KO'ed by Goku or Krillin in the first round, not Krillin or Yamcha.) In the Gold/Silver versions, a Dragonite actually uses Hyper Beam on random black belt dude that's helping Team Rocket... and he just gets slammed into a wall and badly injured to the point where he can't move for a while. He doesn't even lose consciousness! So yeah... most fully-evolved Pokémon are never going to be any stronger than "early/mid Dragonball" level, if they even get that far.

Regular Pokémon fighting somebody on Piccolo's level wouldn't be much of a fight, even if it is three-on-one. It'd be a lot like if the upper-level Red Ribbon guys trying to gang up on Piccolo, and we all know they'd be dead in an instant if they even tried.

I'd say Arceus is probably the only Pokémon that might have a hope of winning a fight against somebody as powerful as King Piccolo, though the other upper-level legendaries like Mewtwo would at least be able to put up a fight.

[Ringworm128]

Mega Man vs Kid Goku (Pilaf Saga).

Fierce Deity Link vs Tapion.

Sai Akuto vs Piccolo Daimao.

[SuperForteX]

Mega Man vs Kid Goku (Pilaf Saga).

Mega Man should be more than a match for Goku in this fight. I honestly see Mega Man beating anyone up to Raditz.

[TheHumblePoet]

How would characters from Avatar: The Last Airbender stack up against early Dragonball? Avatar State Aang vs Early Kid Goku? And how would some of the strongest benders in their world such as Azula, Iroh, Ozai, Bumi, Toph, Pakku etc. with their respective power ups (Full moon, Sozin's Comet etc.) stack up against any fighters from Dragonball?

[Rocketman]

I imagine the 'big thing' would be the Z fighters don't have elemental defenses, so fire would probably be pretty effective. Water second, if only for the need to breathe.

[Bussani]

Kyoshi in the Avatar State was able to move a whole island with her Earthbending, and Roku was able to fight a volcano. Impressive stuff. Probably not as impressive as blowing up the moon, however...

[Brohan]

Goku tanked a flamethrower in the RR arc iirc.

[astrallite]

Anyways it's part of my fandom to believe that most of the characters(Saiyans and Piccolo at least) are without a doubt faster than light both in combat speed and travel speed by the Buu arc. There is no way that their combat speed didn't go up by more than twice after all that training in previous arcs after already surpassing Popo, who is faster than lightning(up to ½ the speed of light).

Nothing really scales correctly from early Dragonball, Goku couldn't handle 40 tons at base in the Buu Arc, and he handled a 1 ton car in the first chapter of the series. Lightning is about .0002% the speed of light btw.

[Rocketman]

If they were faster than light, they would be rocketing off into space because Earth's gravity can't hold on to something moving that fast.

[astrallite]

Huh...