Why was "Dragon Ball Online" even made?

[Rukura]

Dr. Slump was included in the Dragon Ball manga, thus being canon. The same doesn't apply with Neko Majin?

(I smell double standards?)

Can i just point out that, essential, all 3 were gag mangas from the beginning?

Btw, just because Dr. Slump crossed over with the DB manga doesn't make it DB manga canon. Didn't Arale destroy the moon or something in Dr. Slump? Just because things crossover doesn't mean that one unrelated manga that happens to make its way over into another series is manga canon.

It's the same with video games too. Would you consider Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe canon to the Mortal Kombat games?

As far as i know, the most pure form of Dragon Ball canon IS the manga. You can take events and characters from the manga and just say it's not canon? How does that work really? (Didn't Roshi and Piccolo do the same? And Boo with Earth?...)

Dr. Slump characters were in the Dragon Ball manga and fixed Goku's radar. That is Dragon Ball canon.
Z's sensei is Goku, and quite a few characters appear. That is Neko Majin canon.
They are there, thus they exist in those realities. Is this such serious business that one can't have fun with those realities?

(Between games, movies and live action web-series...what is Mortal Kombat canon? lol)

[Piccolo Daimao]

Dr. Slump was included in the Dragon Ball manga, thus being canon. The same doesn't apply with Neko Majin?

(I smell double standards?)

Can i just point out that, essential, all 3 were gag mangas from the beginning?

Btw, just because Dr. Slump crossed over with the DB manga doesn't make it DB manga canon. Didn't Arale destroy the moon or something in Dr. Slump? Just because things crossover doesn't mean that one unrelated manga that happens to make its way over into another series is manga canon.

It's the same with video games too. Would you consider Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe canon to the Mortal Kombat games?

As far as i know, the most pure form of Dragon Ball canon IS the manga. You can take events and characters from the manga and just say it's not canon? How does that work really? (Didn't Roshi and Piccolo do the same? And Boo with Earth?...)

Dr. Slump characters were in the Dragon Ball manga and fixed Goku's radar. That is Dragon Ball canon.
Z's sensei is Goku, and quite a few characters appear. That is Neko Majin canon.
They are there, thus they exist in those realities. Is this such serious business that one can't have fun with those realities?

(Between games, movies and live action web-series...what is Mortal Kombat canon? lol)

Well, there's manga canon, anime canon, etc...that's how I see it. Those chapters in which Dr. Slump crossed over with DB is obviously manga canon, since they appeared in the manga, but not the rest of the unrelated Dr. Slump series.

You can think that Dr. Slump is manga canon if you want, and I'm not going to condemn anyone that says that. But that's opinion, not fact.

And as for Mortal Kombat canon...the main one would be the video games, excluding the crossovers, such as Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.

[Rukura]

Well, there's manga canon, anime canon, etc...that's how I see it. Those chapters in which Dr. Slump crossed over with DB is obviously manga canon, since they appeared in the manga, but not the rest of the unrelated Dr. Slump series.

You can think that Dr. Slump is manga canon if you want, and I'm not going to condemn anyone that says that. But that's opinion, not fact.

And as for Mortal Kombat canon...the main one would be the video games, excluding the crossovers, such as Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.

Sure, and i can totally see why you wouldn't want to consider Slump and Dragon Ball existing in the same universe all the time, and i don't think it to be the case either. But those characters were in those mangas (and anime) and interacted in the story and that's simply fact. As to wether we want to consider them to be part of the universe after that...isn't really the case, but is left to personal choice and preference (i just happen to enjoy how Toriyama made that post DB scenario )

And bringing it back to the topic, i also really like the story that was created for DBOnline. Wanting to consider it DB canon is totally up to each individual, since the manga is basically done at this point

(As far as MK, i don't know much about its canon but, i get the feeling it's kinda loose. Wasn't one of the characters original just a modded color-swap of another? )

[Herms]

Dr. Slump characters were in the Dragon Ball manga and fixed Goku's radar. That is Dragon Ball canon.

I don't think anyone would deny that the events of Goku's trip to Penguin Village in the RR arc are part of DB canon. The question is whether all the events of Dr. Slump itself can be assumed to have occured with the DB world, since the two series don't always fit that well together. For instance, in Dr. Slump God is a Kame-sennin lookalike who oversees the galaxy and sent Gatchan to Earth, but in DB God is an old Namekian guy and the galaxy is overseen by Kaio. And in Dr. Slump they often mention real countries like Japan or the US, while in DB those countries aren't supposed to exist and all of the Earth is united within a single world state.

[Rukura]

Dr. Slump characters were in the Dragon Ball manga and fixed Goku's radar. That is Dragon Ball canon.

I don't think anyone would deny that the events of Goku's trip to Penguin Village in the RR arc are part of DB canon. The question is whether all the events of Dr. Slump itself can be assumed to have occured with the DB world, since the two series don't always fit that well together. For instance, in Dr. Slump God is a Kame-sennin lookalike who oversees the galaxy and sent Gatchan to Earth, but in DB God is an old Namekian guy and the galaxy is overseen by Kaio. And in Dr. Slump they often mention real countries like Japan or the US, while in DB those countries aren't supposed to exist and all of the Earth is united within a single world state.

That's very true. And thinking about it, they don't acknowledge the Dr. Slump story at all in those chapters.
But what about Neko Majin? Where it does assume that the end of Dragon Ball did happen in that existence and Goku is still training Oob (despite a Super Saiyan Vegeta serving Freeza lol...although that probably answers it right there )

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well, there's manga canon, anime canon, etc...that's how I see it. Those chapters in which Dr. Slump crossed over with DB is obviously manga canon, since they appeared in the manga, but not the rest of the unrelated Dr. Slump series.

You can think that Dr. Slump is manga canon if you want, and I'm not going to condemn anyone that says that. But that's opinion, not fact.

And as for Mortal Kombat canon...the main one would be the video games, excluding the crossovers, such as Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.

Sure, and i can totally see why you wouldn't want to consider Slump and Dragon Ball existing in the same universe all the time, and i don't think it to be the case either. But those characters were in those mangas (and anime) and interacted in the story and that's simply fact. As to wether we want to consider them to be part of the universe after that...isn't really the case, but is left to personal choice and preference (i just happen to enjoy how Toriyama made that post DB scenario )

Yeah, I know, I'm not denying that the entire Dr. Slump crossover, with Goku travelling to Penguin Village, meeting up with Arale, Arale knocking Blue away to the pyramids, etc., is part of DB canon.

And I agree with Herms.

And if Neko Majin has SSj Vegeta serving Freeza, then Neko Majin can't be part of DB canon either.

[Bussani]

But what about Neko Majin? Where it does assume that the end of Dragon Ball did happen in that existence and Goku is still training Oob

GT also does that. It's possible for these "canon relationships" to go one way instead of both. For example:

Manga Canon: Manga, Toriyama quotes.
GT Canon: Manga, filler, movies?, GT.
Neko Majin Canon: Manga, Neko Majin.

Just examples, of course, since as you pointed out, Neko Majin has things that don't make it fit. The point is that the manga can be part of any number of canons. So you can say something like...the events of the manga are canon to GT, but the events of GT don't have to be canon to the manga. Does that make any sense?

In Neko Majin's case, I'd say we're seeing alternate versions of the characters who just happen to be similar enough to their manga counterparts. Pretty much the same as Arale and everyone when they appeared in Dragon Ball, come to think of it. I mean, the Dr. Slump characters who do appear in Dragon Ball seem to be based on the end of Dr. Slump, much like Goku in Neko Majin is based on the end of Dragon Ball Goku, right?

[Herms]

I mean, the Dr. Slump characters who do appear in Dragon Ball seem to be based on the end of Dr. Slump, much like Goku in Neko Majin is based on the end of Dragon Ball Goku, right?

Yeah, the Tsun family and Turbo are in the crossover, and they didn't appear until midway through the series. And they even mention Obotchaman's cats and the fact that Tarou is a police officer, which are story elements that only came about pretty near the end. Senbei also mentions that this is the first time he's appeared in Jump in a long while, which obviously refers to Dr. Slump's run in Jump. On the other hand, Nikochan is among the Dr. Slump characters seen, despite returning to his home planet long before the end of the series.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I mean, the Dr. Slump characters who do appear in Dragon Ball seem to be based on the end of Dr. Slump, much like Goku in Neko Majin is based on the end of Dragon Ball Goku, right?

Yeah, the Tsun family and Turbo are in the crossover, and they didn't appear until midway through the series. And they even mention Obotchaman's cats and the fact that Tarou is a police officer, which are story elements that only came about pretty near the end. Senbei also mentions that this is the first time he's appeared in Jump in a long while, which obviously refers to Dr. Slump's run in Jump. On the other hand, Nikochan is among the Dr. Slump characters seen, despite returning to his home planet long before the end of the series.

Well, to be fair, it often seems like Toriyama is fairly indecisive and just includes whoever he wants when returning to a series. xD Nikochan and an apparently non-Caramel Man Mashirito both appear in the Abale special chapter, and Tarou was a cop in that one as well.

[Herms]

xD Nikochan and an apparently non-Caramel Man Mashirito both appear in the Abale special chapter

That's Mashirito's son, not the original.

[Xyex]

(As far as MK, i don't know much about its canon but, i get the feeling it's kinda loose. Wasn't one of the characters original just a modded color-swap of another? )

One? Try ALL of the Ninjas, more-or-less. Scorpion, Sub-Zero, and Reptile from the original were pallet swaps of each other, to save space. IIRC, MK1 Reptile even had some of the moves of the other two, and no original moves of his own. Millena, Kitana, and Jade in MKII were the same thing. Rain started out a ninja because he was a pallet swap, but became a samurai later in the series. etc.

And yeah, Dr. Slump as a whole can't really fit into DB (but then, a lot of early DB gags can't fit into DBZ, either) but the characters, at least, exist in the DB-verse.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

xD Nikochan and an apparently non-Caramel Man Mashirito both appear in the Abale special chapter

That's Mashirito's son, not the original.

Learn something new everyday, huh... of course I'd probably have known that if I could read Japanese. Only having the Japanese version of most of Toriyama's work proves useless for story aspects. I really wish Viz would translate more of his works, most of them could probably be thrown together in a couple of collections similar to Oda's "Wanted!" volume.