Dragon Box Singles: The Trunks and Bardock TV Specials!

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Re: Dragon Box Singles: The Trunks and Bardock TV Specials!

Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:02 pm

CashmanX wrote:Why do I have the distinct feeling that these aren't the Dragon box versions? :?
Is there any reason why they wouldn't be using the DBox masters?
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Post by CashmanX » Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:13 pm

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:
CashmanX wrote:Why do I have the distinct feeling that these aren't the Dragon box versions? :?
Is there any reason why they wouldn't be using the DBox masters?
It's just that I can't see Toei putting two specials on one disc in Dragon box quality for so cheap...

That and it seems it's being published by Shueisha...
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Re: Dragon Box Singles: The Trunks and Bardock TV Specials!

Post by TripleRach » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:26 pm

CashmanX wrote:It's just that I can't see Toei putting two specials on one disc in Dragon box quality for so cheap...

That and it seems it's being published by Shueisha...
What other masters would they use? It would cost more money to make a new set of masters and encodes than it would to just use the only existing DVD masters in Japan.

Though I'm skeptical about the quality too. But as long as I can finally own the TV specials in 4:3 with the eyecatches for a reasonable price, I'll be happy. Now we just need the GT special. (SSJ4 Gokuu Jr card!?)
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:53 pm

TripleRach wrote:Though I'm skeptical about the quality too. But as long as I can finally own the TV specials in 4:3 with the eyecatches for a reasonable price, I'll be happy. Now we just need the GT special. (SSJ4 Gokuu Jr card!?)
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Post by Raki » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:02 pm

I'll probably import these if I can afford them this fall.
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Re: Dragon Box Singles: The Trunks and Bardock TV Specials!

Post by Krycek7o2 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:31 pm

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CashmanX wrote:It's just that I can't see Toei putting two specials on one disc in Dragon box quality for so cheap...

That and it seems it's being published by Shueisha...
What other masters would they use? It would cost more money to make a new set of masters and encodes than it would to just use the only existing DVD masters in Japan.

Though I'm skeptical about the quality too. But as long as I can finally own the TV specials in 4:3 with the eyecatches for a reasonable price, I'll be happy. Now we just need the GT special. (SSJ4 Gokuu Jr card!?)
I wouldn't worry about the image quality taking a hit. These specials take about 3.5 Gigs and 3.7 Gigs (I checked my DBox discs). One dual-layered DVD would suffice, on average each R2 Dragon Box disc took 7.6-7.7 gigs per DVD. On the other hand, the GT Special was not remastered. The GT special in the Green Season sets actually looks a lot better than the Dragon Box version (Minus the blurring). The GT Special is also interlaced.

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Post by nathantheguitarist » Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:26 am

kei17 wrote:This does look like the DVD case is included in a bigger paper package and the actual cover will look like this:

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This kind of packaging is common among low price DVDs sold in Japanese convenience stores.

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I'm not quite sure of what's going on here with this packaging. :| It looks like a plain DVD case that lifts up out of some crazy cardboard thing...? I really can't tell. I was hoping it (or they) would be exactly like the other Dragon Box singles... I guess not.
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Post by Ashura » Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:59 am

They made all the possible money they could make on the DBoxes at this point, which is why they're releasing singles now (and before), to rake in more money. Toei wants profit... there's no way a limited edition they've kept super limited for almost 10 years now is making them any kind of money.

If you read any of their mission statements to investors, they want to start making more money off of the back catalogue. They may even be looking into how Funi is doing things and trying models like that for profitability reasons.

These specials are also dated by this point; nearly 20 years old. I love them, but they're obviously not today's new hot shit. There comes a point where the money you can feasibly charge for something like this becomes less and less.

It's also a way to cross promote another product without spending a ton of money. These things are already animated and mastered; a cheap DVD reprint is a no brainer.
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Post by nathantheguitarist » Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:43 am

Is that in reply to me? I said I hoped they were going to do these like the Dragon Box Singles... I do not expect, nor do I have the ability to afford, some kind of crazy limited edition thing. This is better for affordability, but it doesn't really fall in line with the other 103(I think?) Dragon Box singles.
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Post by Adamant » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:12 am

Ashura wrote:They made all the possible money they could make on the DBoxes at this point
Uh, what? They made all the possible money they could make on the Dragonboxes the moment they released them, since they only produced the number of boxes that had already been paid for through preorders.
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Post by What Up Namek! » Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:46 pm

So does anyone know if these are in DBOX quality?

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Post by linkdude20002001 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:49 pm

nathantheguitarist wrote:I'm not quite sure of what's going on here with this packaging. :| It looks like a plain DVD case that lifts up out of some crazy cardboard thing...? I really can't tell. I was hoping it (or they) would be exactly like the other Dragon Box singles... I guess not.
I think it's kinda like the DVDs they sell at Costco. You're probably meant to throw the outer box away.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:52 pm

Guys, amazon.co.jp has pictures of the back of the box. Don't know myself if those are DBox quality shots but you can check to see if they are or not.
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Post by KiddoCabbusses » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:51 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:Guys, amazon.co.jp has pictures of the back of the box. Don't know myself if those are DBox quality shots but you can check to see if they are or not.
It's always questionable if what's on the box actually matches the contents.

That being said, the pictures on the back don't have the "Green Skies" that are so prominent in the DBox masters (from what I've seen so far). Anyone got equivalent JP DBox shots of the specific frames shown on the back of the boxart?

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:42 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:Guys, amazon.co.jp has pictures of the back of the box. Don't know myself if those are DBox quality shots but you can check to see if they are or not.
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Post by Ashura » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:14 am

Adamant wrote:
Ashura wrote:They made all the possible money they could make on the DBoxes at this point
Uh, what? They made all the possible money they could make on the Dragonboxes the moment they released them, since they only produced the number of boxes that had already been paid for through preorders.
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Cashman X was like 'It's just that I can't see Toei putting two specials on one disc in Dragon box quality for so cheap...' which ignores the huge fact that they spent a lot of money to restore all these episodes on DVD and have done nothing but the Dbox singles (as well as Funi's set and whoever else licensed the footage; it's one other country, I think?) to exploit this fact since then. It's illogical that this wouldn't use those masters.
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