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Post by Zestanor » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:20 pm

I guess their idea was that it wasn't linear time, it was "hyperbolic" (based on the curve of a hyperbola) time. But that's wrong, as there is no curve in the ROSAT's time in relation to the outside world's time. It's still "linear" time, just 365 times faster.

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Post by ohaimynameiserik » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:31 pm

penguintruth wrote:3) It sounds utterly retarded.
Saying something like this immediately brings down your credibility.

Not saying I don't agree with you, but that is honestly as bad as your argument against something being "'cause that's fuckin' gay".

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Post by Savage68 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:38 pm

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Savage68 wrote:He's probably complaining more because "Hyperbolic Time Chamber" just sounds incredibly stupid.
I don't see what's stupid about the name Hyperbolic Time Chamber, especially when the majority of characters are named after various types of food.
Well, I do. The characters that were named after various types of food were named by the author and those are their actual names. Funimation doesn't get that excuse to lean back on, because inventing names shouldn't ever enter into their job parameters anymore. Tweaking names, maybe, but I think we all would agree that the dub-ism here extends far beyond a benign tweak. When I hear something corny that doesn't need to exist, it's just not a good thing.

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Post by Kuwabara » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:39 pm

I take no issue with the name Hyperbolic Time Chamber, but I can't believe they're still pronouncing "hyperbolic" wrong! :evil:
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:47 pm

I think, aside from the obvious problem that it's not an accurate translation of its name (hmm, don't see any translation of "spirit" in there), it seems to attempt to give the room a different kind of presence than it had before. The Room of Spirit and Time sounds particularly rooted in fantasy, which, given its design and its attachment to God's temple, makes perfect sense. Hyperbolic Time Chamber just sounds like they were trying to "science" it up. With something named like that, I'd expect there to be a lot of chrome, and for liquid nitrogen to hiss whenever someone opened it.

Granted, that's just an emotional reaction from me. Really, the fact that it's wrong should be all the justification anyone needs.
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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:03 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:I think, aside from the obvious problem that it's not an accurate translation of its name (hmm, don't see any translation of "spirit" in there), it seems to attempt to give the room a different kind of presence than it had before. The Room of Spirit and Time sounds particularly rooted in fantasy, which, given its design and its attachment to God's temple, makes perfect sense. Hyperbolic Time Chamber just sounds like they were trying to "science" it up. With something named like that, I'd expect there to be a lot of chrome, and for liquid nitrogen to hiss whenever someone opened it.

Granted, that's just an emotional reaction from me. Really, the fact that it's wrong should be all the justification anyone needs.
I agree the name is unnecessary, it's just not entirely inaccurate, as has been debated since I posted that I notice :lol: .
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Post by B » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:34 pm

I watched a bit of an episode on CW4Kids Toonzai this morning. It's my first exposure to Kikuchi!Kai outside of clips. It honestly felt like the score and the voices were fighting for attention, and neither was reinforcing the other.

The episode happened to be the one with the, originally, hilariously bad dub scene of Piccolo merging with Nail, so it was a tad bittersweet to watch it dubbed and acted competently(I'm pretty sure that was not the music playing during the scene, though).

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:34 pm

I happened to catch it on Toonzai this morning too, for the first time ever. They sure are milking the same few pieces of music, but I honestly can't say it's any better or worse than any other children's cartoon I've seen. My only WTF moment was when the Z episode had Piccolo's arrival to the battlefield accompanied by a grand version of his theme. Now, the Kai episode also used Piccolo's theme for the recap... but then for his arrival they used a really goofy and over the top version of Gohan's theme. It just sounded ridiculous, and all I could think about was Gohan screaming and chasing after the saber tiger in episode 1.

But when Freeza transformed, and it cut to Piccolo, I couldn't help but yell, "HOLY SMOKE!" Glad that wasn't in there this time, but I still just had to say it. :P
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Post by sun_wukong86 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:36 am

Sorry if this has been posted before, but am I missing something? Did the Kai dub go back to using Kenji Yamamoto's score? Or am I imagining this?
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Post by B » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:41 pm

No, it's definitely using the Kikuchi score.

I thought the piece used for the title card was an odd choice. Calm, soothing sounds don't really befit Kai 37's title of "A Tormenting Super Transformation! Freeza's One Million Fighting Power".
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Post by Kuwabara » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:49 am

B wrote:I thought the piece used for the title card was an odd choice. Calm, soothing sounds don't really befit Kai 37's title of "A Tormenting Super Transformation! Freeza's One Million Fighting Power".
Yeah because they don't know what they're doing. :lol:
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Post by gmster » Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:09 pm

Kuwabara wrote:
B wrote:I thought the piece used for the title card was an odd choice. Calm, soothing sounds don't really befit Kai 37's title of "A Tormenting Super Transformation! Freeza's One Million Fighting Power".
Yeah because they don't know what they're doing. :lol:
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Post by Akumaito Beam » Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:22 pm

Has anyone tried to watch Dragonball's dub and then transition into DBZ Kai's dub? Does it flow well? I'm currently watching the dub of Dragon Ball and I was wondering once it ends if I should go to Kai for a decent script or if I should watch the original dub for voice consistency? Of course I'll probably end up watching Funi's Boo saga either way.

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Post by SaiyamanMS » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:30 pm

I have not actually tried that as of yet, I'd recommend Kai anyway though. I mean, any possible break in the flow between DB and Kai is nowhere near the break of flow between seasons 2 and 3 of DBZ. It's like having the entire show turn to shit the moment Goku lands on Namek.

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Post by Jackal puFF » Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:57 pm

Akumaito Beam wrote:Has anyone tried to watch Dragonball's dub and then transition into DBZ Kai's dub? Does it flow well? I'm currently watching the dub of Dragon Ball and I was wondering once it ends if I should go to Kai for a decent script or if I should watch the original dub for voice consistency? Of course I'll probably end up watching Funi's Boo saga either way.
Yeah I'd recommend the kai dub after. Imo it flows way better than the original dub. I think it has better voice consistency, since they're kinda teenagers during the end of dragonball their voices sound young and then in kai, they sound like their adults. In the original they sound the same from dragonball to z. So yeah haha.

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Post by Kuwabara » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:43 pm

gmster wrote:I was just wondering, are you the same Kuwabara from the CQFF?
I've never even played Chex Quest, so I don't think I'd ever join Chex Quest Fan Forum. Judging by the posts of the person you're referring to, I'd say he's definitely a guy (I'm a girl). He's got great taste though! 8)
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Post by batistabus » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:33 am

Um...guys? Read this description...

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Maybe that'll be on the home release? Or maybe someone working over at Nickelodeon just knows their Dragon Ball?

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Post by BlazingFiddlesticks » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:55 pm

batistabus wrote:Um...guys? Read this description...

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Maybe that'll be on the home release? Or maybe someone working over at Nickelodeon just knows their Dragon Ball?
Ah HA!

My guess is going to be on the former.

Also, geez Chris Sabat was in a whole other league this episode.
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Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:10 pm

B wrote:No, it's definitely using the Kikuchi score.

I thought the piece used for the title card was an odd choice. Calm, soothing sounds don't really befit Kai 37's title of "A Tormenting Super Transformation! Freeza's One Million Fighting Power".
And some early episodes on the CW4Kids Toonzai edition (hence, its a broadcast OTA network).
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:00 pm

It's interesting to hear some Buu arc BGM during the Freeza battle.

As for the SSJ and "I am the Super Saiyan, Son Goku!" scenes, ehhhh... the Kikuchi pieces used in DBZ did the scenes more justice. And Yamamoto's "The Braveheart's Triumphant Return" was better for the latter scene than the Kikuchi piece used.
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