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Post by Rocketman » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:22 pm

tarsonis wrote:
Rocketman wrote:What the hell was that on the JPN SSJ Goku link? That was pathetic![/i]
They really should just replace it with a dvd rip. That was an extremely low quality encode made from what looked like a 5th generation tape that someone found in a landfill.
I meant the hairball Goku was trying to dislodge while listening to the greatest hits of the Godzilla movies.

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Post by tarsonis » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:41 pm

Brian Drummond is an excellent voice actor and Ocean Studios does the best dubs of any dubbing company I've heard. (Not saying it was perfect or anything, i.e. Freeza). Their voices otherwise were all fitting.

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Post by El_Diablo » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:01 pm

I found Ocean's Freeza to be leaps and bounds ahead of the raspy replacement FUNi gave.

The line he spoke on the spaceship "Imagine his reaction when he arrives and finds no one but me ha ha ha" (or something like that) is laughably bad.
Where's the beef?

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Post by gotenx » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:02 pm

tarsonis wrote:Brian Drummond is an excellent voice actor and Ocean Studios does the best dubs of any dubbing company I've heard. (Not saying it was perfect or anything, i.e. Freeza). Their voices otherwise were all fitting.
I actually like Ocean's dubs of OTHER animes other than DBZ. DBZ sucked, but there dub of Inuyasha ruled.

OK. Time for the second part of this post. Here is a file for anyone who hasn't seen both dubs yet. I've included clips of BOTH dubs in a zip file. They are both the same clip but different dubs. Just listen to Bulma's voice in the ocean dub. She sounds SOOO fake (sort of like a robot).

It is now time for everybody to see how good Funi is compared to Ocean!
http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=11LG ... 88C9ZIOXUL

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Post by tarsonis » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:25 pm

Well, I was referring to seasons 1-2 of DBZ, in that I liked Ocean's voices over Funimation's there. But judging by that clip, Funimation's were far better for the later episodes. Vegeta sounded like he was done by someone doing a bad impression of Brian Drummond in the Ocean one.

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Post by gotenx » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:28 pm

That was Brian Drummond. They sound exactly the same. I can recognize that horrible voice ANYWHERE.

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Post by tarsonis » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:30 pm

Weird, he sounded good as the younger Vegeta but not the older one. I think it's the way Vegeta looks..that voice just doesn't fit anymore.

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Post by El_Diablo » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:31 pm

I'll admit Bulma didn't have the best of voices.

There was a change in her actress somewhere along the line anyway.

I also like the piece of music playing at the start of that clip.

And are you seriously saying Chris Sabat is better than that?
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Post by gotenx » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:42 pm

Yep! I'm not trying to say that your opinions mean nothing to me, but I really don't like any of the voices in the ocean dub and I think that Christopher Sabat did a really good job with Vegeta. Sean whateverhislastnameis did a PERFECT job with Goku in the redub (in my opinion) proving that Funi is the best!

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:41 pm

Weird, he sounded good as the younger Vegeta but not the older one. I think it's the way Vegeta looks..that voice just doesn't fit anymore.
Hmm, funny you should say that cause I always thought Chris Sabat's voice didn't fit the young (evil) Vegeta.

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Post by tarsonis » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:03 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Hmm, funny you should say that cause I always thought Chris Sabat's voice didn't fit the young (evil) Vegeta.
Actually I agree with that as well. :)

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Post by Adnan » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:34 am

Rocketman wrote:I meant the hairball Goku was trying to dislodge while listening to the greatest hits of the Godzilla movies.
Godzilla music eh? :roll: How many seconds of the japanese soundtrack have you actually heard (and of good quality, which that video isn't)? Now you've proven that you speak out of your posterior, no offense.

As for Goku's voice, we get it. Really. I mean it. You've made it clear many times that you don't like it. Fine, no matter how skewed or without basis it may be you can have that opinion. But really, what's your point in constantly trying to shove it... err I mean remind everyone all the time? And in this case you even felt the need to tell us when the discussion didn't even involve the jp original.

Seriously we believe you. You truly hate japanese... anything.

You know, just add this little tidbit to your profile description or signature and save yourself the trouble of having to retype the same gripe again and again? :wink:

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Post by Tenka-Ichi » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:38 am

El_Diablo wrote:Here's a site I've had bookmarked for a while.

You can download the clips with the picture next to them

http://rabilavi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/inter ... /table.htm
I really find it weird that those clips have Cartoon network and Toonami water marks on them.
I actually like Ocean's dubs of OTHER animes other than DBZ. DBZ sucked, but there dub of Inuyasha ruled.
Yeah, when I first heard Miroku and realized that it was Kirby Morrow, I was like, WTF? why was he so bad for Goku?

Also, didn't the Ocean group not come back untill the middle of the cell games arc? I distinctly remember watching one eisode one day, then on the next one (I think it was Android explosion or something), All the voices and music had changed, both times I saw them.

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Post by Conan the SSJ » Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:51 am

It goes like this, basicly how DB/Z/GT was aired in America, Canada, and the UK. Just so every single person knows, FUNi-Texas, Ocean, and Blue Water are three completely different voice studios with compeltely different casts. I hope this all makes sense. Here it goes from my memory:


UK DBZ episodes:
1 - 53: FUNi/Ocean dub.
54 - 107: FUNi-Texas dub.
108 - 276: Ocean-Vancouver dub.

UK GT episodes:
1 - 64: Blue Water recast dub.

UK original DB episodes:
1 - 153: Blue Water recast dub.


Canada DBZ episodes:
1 - 53: FUNi/Ocean dub.
54 - 150: FUNi-Texas dub.
151 - 276: Ocean-Vancouver dub.

Canada GT episodes:
1 - 64: Blue Water recast dub.

Canada original DB episodes:
1 - 153: Blue Water recast dub.


American original DB episodes:
1 - 13: Ocean/FUNi dub.

American DBZ episodes:
1 - 53: Ocean/FUNi dub.
54 - 276: FUNi-Texas dub.

American original DB redub-episodes:
1 - 153: FUNi-Texas dub.

American GT episodes:
1 - 64: FUNi-Texas dub.

American DBZ redub-episodes:
1 - 68: FUNi-Texas dub.
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Post by Rocketman » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:42 am

Adnan wrote:Godzilla music eh? :roll: How many seconds of the japanese soundtrack have you actually heard (and of good quality, which that video isn't)? Now you've proven that you speak out of your posterior, no offense.

As for Goku's voice, we get it. Really. I mean it. You've made it clear many times that you don't like it. Fine, no matter how skewed or without basis it may be you can have that opinion. But really, what's your point in constantly trying to shove it... err I mean remind everyone all the time? And in this case you even felt the need to tell us when the discussion didn't even involve the jp original.

Seriously we believe you. You truly hate japanese... anything.
You're right, I was outta line and OT.

But I don't hate all things Japanese. I don't even hate most things Japanese. What I hate are people who think that because I don't like the sound of the Japanese language, that I'm a closeminded dumbass American bigot. Or people who claim that clips of such pisspoor quality as that one still 'puts the dub to shame'.

What's my point? My point is I'm a dub fan. I've watched several of the movies in Japanese, and I didn't like it. And I'm sick of being treated like some kind of third-class fan because I don't watch everything in Nipponese and appreciate the complex meanings of background music that I can't distinguish from Godzilla vs the Sea Monster.

But, this is all terribly off-topic, so I'll just stop here.

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Post by Jerseymilk » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:44 am

Tenka-Ichi wrote: Yeah, when I first heard Miroku and realized that it was Kirby Morrow, I was like, WTF? why was he so bad for Goku?
Ya, it's always floored me too. He's fine as Miroku. He was also fine as Trowa in Gundam Wing and I liked him as Van Fanel in Escaflowne, so I can't even say his bad performance came down to it being his first role. The only thing I can think of is that he just isn't capable of playing characters that are very outgoing and loud.
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:09 pm

What's my point? My point is I'm a dub fan. I've watched several of the movies in Japanese, and I didn't like it. And I'm sick of being treated like some kind of third-class fan because I don't watch everything in Nipponese....
I'am kind of a dub fan myself, I first watched the Spanish version (not that I could fully understand it but it was the only one avalible). Then when I would go to Italy for the summer I found it there and recorded all I could (but it was no good in a American VCR so :? ). Then they started showing it here in America at like 6:00am with whole episodes missing, but I watched it anyways...then I ventured into China Town where I saw they had the original Japanese version on VHS for like 25.00$ with the worse quality ever. I watched it and thought it was wired that everyone had a high pitched voice. After I've watched it so many times in Japanese I got used to there voices so much that I could tell who's voice was who's (Does that make sence?) rather then it all sounding the same... where the hell I'am I going with this? Uh....damnit.

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Post by El_Diablo » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:00 pm

Tenka-Ichi wrote:
El_Diablo wrote:Here's a site I've had bookmarked for a while.

You can download the clips with the picture next to them

http://rabilavi.hp.infoseek.co.jp/inter ... /table.htm
I really find it weird that those clips have Cartoon network and Toonami water marks on them.
We have CN and Toonami over here as well, you know
Where's the beef?

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Post by Adnan » Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:46 pm

Conan the SSJ wrote:Try Here and Here for some video and audio clips of Blue Water's GT dub
I don't know who's responsible for the Otaku Alliance site but whoever it is please update the content. Now that the DVDs are out there's no excuse to have those horrible fansub quality videos on your site. It would even help your cause to replace them. Seriously.

Suggestion: Do a clip show showing the important scenes of DBZ (SSJ Goku, SSJ2 Gohan, Goku vs. Vegeta fight etc.) back to back while switching between english and japanese for each scene.

Anyway, going back to the topic now, well I personally dislike both dubs mostly because of the music but the voices as well. However, I do dislike the Ocean Dub even more for one important reason: I've noticed that they've even gone as far as to change the sound effects that we all know and love like the kamehameha and transformation sounds on many occasions, and have even added their own visual effects in some scenes.

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Post by Conan the SSJ » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:15 pm

Adnan wrote:
Conan the SSJ wrote:Try Here and Here for some video and audio clips of Blue Water's GT dub
I don't know who's responsible for the Otaku Alliance site but whoever it is please update the content. Now that the DVDs are out there's no excuse to have those horrible fansub quality videos on your site. It would even help your cause to replace them. Seriously.

Suggestion: Do a clip show showing the important scenes of DBZ (SSJ Goku, SSJ2 Gohan, Goku vs. Vegeta fight etc.) back to back while switching between english and japanese for each scene.

Anyway, going back to the topic now, well I personally dislike both dubs mostly because of the music but the voices as well. However, I do dislike the Ocean Dub even more for one important reason: I've noticed that they've even gone as far as to change the sound effects that we all know and love like the kamehameha and transformation sounds on many occasions, and have even added their own visual effects in some scenes.
Well, I was the one who contributed the GT clips. However, the OA site as it is, is basicly dead in regaurds of real updating. Don't bitch about bad qaulity DLs, be glad you can see some glimpses of the Blue Water version and remember that not all sites are gonna use DVD rips. Plus, I don't work there, so don't direct your requests at me, take them to the site owner: illjwamh@yahoo.com
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