Is GT really inconsistent?

[MCDaveG]

I think that Movie 1 can easily fit into the anime. If the biggest problem in question is that it happens before anime and nobody knows about Gohan in the first Z episodes.....
Yeah, why not? Nobody remembers that fail with Goku's spaceship in ''canon'' of the anime series???

[KiddoCabbusses]

GT has movie characters in the show right?
That brings with it a whole load of inconsistency.

People wouldn't notice these plot holes in the first place if they found the series entertaining.

Not really.

The only movie character in GT is Cooler, which his movie could easily fit in the three-year timeskip.

Though it might be a case of the character existing in-universe while his movie doesn't, in which he died by other means.

On a random note, I would like to bring up that I recently went and emulated some fan translations of Famicom Dragonball games. "Kyoushuu Saiya-jin" had an alternate Garlic Jr. story take where the heroes who were alive during the training arc teamed up to kill him before he could become immortal with the Dragon Balls, and "Ressen Jinzou Ningen" had a take on the Cooler story where he seeks out the Dragon Balls and kidnaps Bulma for some reason. "Super Butoden 2" also had a very different Bojack story from how the movie played out,.

I think it'd be a good idea to get a good list of these alternate story takes.

[Piccolo Daimao]

I think that Movie 1 can easily fit into the anime. If the biggest problem in question is that it happens before anime and nobody knows about Gohan in the first Z episodes.....
Yeah, why not? Nobody remembers that fail with Goku's spaceship in ''canon'' of the anime series???

Well, the spaceship thing is a flat-out plothole. The entire Movie #1 is a plothole if you try to take into account the main anime and shouldn't even be mentioned again in the anime canon, but it then brings it back in the form of an arc and just muddles things again.

And there are numerous points that people have made about why Movie #1 can't fit into the anime canon. About why most, if not all, of the movies can't fit into the anime canon. Movie #9 is probably the closest you'll ever get to validly including a movie into the anime canon without making ridiculous explanations to explain away plotholes and inconsistencies (since you can practically explain every single plothole or inconsistency in every fiction), and even then, there is dispute among certain things.

[jjgp1112]

I think that Movie 1 can easily fit into the anime. If the biggest problem in question is that it happens before anime and nobody knows about Gohan in the first Z episodes.....
Yeah, why not? Nobody remembers that fail with Goku's spaceship in ''canon'' of the anime series???

That initself is an anime induced plothole, that, like almost every hole that Toei creates, is completely disregarded as if it never happened once something in the actual "canon" story contradicts it.

[DBZ Mick]

I think GT has more logic problems, than actual plot-holes. People seem to confuse the two.

[Casual Matt]

• Why nobody ever mentioned these new Dragon Balls before? Why they needed to travel to namek to search for the namekian Dragon Balls?

Because they didn't exist in the Namek arc. They would still have been deactivated. It's also possible they were forgotten even by God/Piccolo.

Namek is only an example. There is moments in the Cell of Majin Boo saga which they needed the Dragon Balls.

Don't forget, though. The Black Star Dragon Balls scatter across the entire galaxy after use and the planet they were used on is destroyed unless they are brought back together within a year.

Seems like the type of thing to avoid as long as there's another option. And in those stories Dende was still kicking around and Earth's Dragon Balls were still active.

I'll mention the unlikelihood of Nappa being born with a mustache

I can totally imagine baby Nappa having a moustache.

GT has movie characters in the show right?
That brings with it a whole load of inconsistency.

People wouldn't notice these plot holes in the first place if they found the series entertaining.

Not really.

The only movie character in GT is Cooler, which his movie could easily fit in the three-year timeskip.

That was only a small cameo, anyway.

I think that Movie 1 can easily fit into the anime. If the biggest problem in question is that it happens before anime and nobody knows about Gohan in the first Z episodes.....
Yeah, why not? Nobody remembers that fail with Goku's spaceship in ''canon'' of the anime series???

Well, the spaceship thing is a flat-out plothole. The entire Movie #1 is a plothole if you try to take into account the main anime and shouldn't even be mentioned again in the anime canon, but it then brings it back in the form of an arc and just muddles things again.

Doesn't Goku say that it was badly damaged but there was enough to salvage? Admittedly that's not a perfect explanation since the space pod seemed to be pretty thoroughly destroyed, but if that line was made for the anime it seems they at least tried to explain it.

[Fox666]

Don't forget, though. The Black Star Dragon Balls scatter across the entire galaxy after use and the planet they were used on is destroyed unless they are brought back together within a year.

Seems like the type of thing to avoid as long as there's another option. And in those stories Dende was still kicking around and Earth's Dragon Balls were still active.

It may be a problem, but it's not a reason to avoid it when you are facing a danger like Majin Boo. Goku wasted his time on Earth because of the radar, wouldn't Mr. Popo have mentioned "hey, maybe we don't need to risk Goku or Trunks lives, we have another set of Dragon Balls".

Or better than that, the radar which they had in the temple would have picked these Dragon Balls. Of course the Dragon Balls weren't hidden or anything, all you needed was to enter that open room which all of the series cast was standing next to...

And I may be forgetting something, but how these Dragon Balls still existed after Piccolo gone to hell?

[Luke Groundwalker]

And I may be forgetting something, but how these Dragon Balls still existed after Piccolo gone to hell?

They didn't, that was the purpose of him going to Hell.

[Fox666]

Okay, I watched that scene, and apparently Piccolo doesn't have a halo over his head or anything. So I ask the opposite question, why would the Dragon Balls cease to exist if Piccolo didn't actually "died"? When he was revived in Kaio's planet, Kami-sama and the Dragon Balls returned as soon as the halo over his head disappeared and being the other world didn't changed anything. Well, in fact, Kami-sama used to travel to the other world...

[Nazi Cola]

GT has movie characters in the show right?
That brings with it a whole load of inconsistency.

People wouldn't notice these plot holes in the first place if they found the series entertaining.

Not really.

The only movie character in GT is Cooler, which his movie could easily fit in the three-year timeskip.

Though it might be a case of the character existing in-universe while his movie doesn't, in which he died by other means.

Paragus also appeared, which logically means Broly existed in some capacity.

[Luke Groundwalker]

GT has movie characters in the show right?
That brings with it a whole load of inconsistency.

People wouldn't notice these plot holes in the first place if they found the series entertaining.

Not really.

The only movie character in GT is Cooler, which his movie could easily fit in the three-year timeskip.

Though it might be a case of the character existing in-universe while his movie doesn't, in which he died by other means.

Paragus also appeared, which logically means Broly existed in some capacity.

Huh? Since when? I don't ever recall seeing Paragus in GT.

[NeoKING]

Huh? Since when? I don't ever recall seeing Paragus in GT.

I do believe he was one of the cameo villains shown coming out of Hell.

[Cipher]

I do believe he was one of the cameo villains shown coming out of Hell.

I think he's a one of the very tiny background characters in those television news shots of all the villains coming out of Hell. Which is also the same and only place Coola appears. I've never put much stock into those shots.

[Casual Matt]

Okay, I watched that scene, and apparently Piccolo doesn't have a halo over his head or anything. So I ask the opposite question, why would the Dragon Balls cease to exist if Piccolo didn't actually "died"? When he was revived in Kaio's planet, Kami-sama and the Dragon Balls returned as soon as the halo over his head disappeared and being the other world didn't changed anything. Well, in fact, Kami-sama used to travel to the other world...

He was still dead. He died when the Earth exploded. He stayed behind so the Black Star Dragon Balls would disappear when he died.

When he got sent to Hell he lost his Halo because... well, apparantly in GT people in Hell don't get halos. That is a contradiction with what we see in Z but not with itself.

[Luke Groundwalker]

Eh I don't think so. Unless people have pictorial proof I'm gonna call bull on this. I don't own the DVDs to check myself unfortunately.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I'm pretty sure Paragus isn't in GT:



He is, however, in DBZ Movie 12:

[Herms]

I love how Gozu and Mezu are out attacking Earth along with the bad guys.

[Chibi Gohan]

Metallitron can fly?

[Luke Groundwalker]

I love how Gozu and Mezu are out attacking Earth along with the bad guys.

Lol I just noticed this too, funny shit. Would be even more funny if they were drawn better and clearer like the Fusion Reborn cameos.

[Fox666]

I love how Gozu and Mezu are out attacking Earth along with the bad guys.

LOL

Metallitron can fly?

Funny I didn't even noticed that "detail" until now